Local 235 series reviews are coming in

1BimmerNut · 03-02-2014, 01:42 AM

"One drawback that is common in all three is a high-level of road noise intruding into the cabin, particularly on rough surface roads."

That's not great - generally glowing reviews everywhere else

http://news.drive.com.au/drive/new-c...226-33hvc.html

http://www.carsguide.com.au/news-and...82282_20140227

ItsHectic · 03-02-2014, 01:50 AM

Not surprising considering it is the same weight as the 1 series yet bigger.

Harlequin · 03-02-2014, 02:11 AM

"Faster than the 1 Series ///M Coupé".... maybe in a straight line... And if so then only because of the transmission...

It definitely didn't look as planted as a 1M in the corners...

Also,

A quick comparison shows the following kw/tonne:

M235i: 163.2 (Auto) 164.9 (Manual)
1M: 167.2

I know 2-4 kw makes no difference but I keep hearing about how the M235i is "lighter for the same power" but it's not... It's 25-40kgs lighter (depending on transmission) BUT 10kw down on the 1M...

I'd be very interested to see a 1/4 mile between a 1M and a manual 235i...

johngrossi · 03-02-2014, 02:15 AM

They should have continued production of the 1 since they filled the gaps with the 2 and 4 series.

Why not have a 1,2,3,4,5,6, and 7 series??

thewafflecaust · 03-02-2014, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by johngrossi

They should have continued production of the 1 since they filled the gaps with the 2 and 4 series.

Why not have a 1,2,3,4,5,6, and 7 series??

They still make a 1 series hatch

johngrossi · 03-02-2014, 02:19 AM

Really? Is that available in the us?

thewafflecaust · 03-02-2014, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by johngrossi

Really? Is that available in the us?

Nope. We have it here in australia and its available in europe.

johngrossi · 03-02-2014, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by thewafflecaust

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Originally Posted by johngrossi

Really? Is that available in the us?

Nope. We have it here in australia and its available in europe.

Ahh, i should've known you were in Australia because of the time at night here

ItsHectic · 03-02-2014, 03:08 AM

I heard of a 1 series 4 door sedan in the works.

thewafflecaust · 03-02-2014, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ItsHectic

I heard of a 1 series 4 door sedan in the works.

Please let it be a 2 series grancoupe and not a 1 series GT..

Harlequin · 03-02-2014, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by thewafflecaust

Please let it be a 2 series grancoupe and not a 1 series GT..

Magic 8-Ball says the news is not good...

http://www.autoblog.com/2013/12/16/b...rer-spy-shots/

Alpine* · 03-02-2014, 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Harlequin

"Faster than the 1 Series ///M Coupé".... maybe in a straight line... And if so then only because of the transmission...

It definitely didn't look as planted as a 1M in the corners...

Also,

A quick comparison shows the following kw/tonne:

M235i: 163.2 (Auto) 164.9 (Manual)
1M: 167.2

I know 2-4 kw makes no difference but I keep hearing about how the M235i is "lighter for the same power" but it's not... It's 25-40kgs lighter (depending on transmission) BUT 10kw down on the 1M...

I'd be very interested to see a 1/4 mile between a 1M and a manual 235i...

Question, if you had $95+k to spend on a BM coupe! what would you buy or recommend? A 1M or a M235?

I ask cause a local fellow is looking at mine, drove it today, and is going to test drive a M235 and make a decision after that.

flinchy · 03-02-2014, 04:17 AM

Just like the 4GC, that 2GC looks great imo!

Miles better than the coupe.

Harlequin · 03-02-2014, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Alpine*

Question, if you had $95+k to spend on a BM coupe! what would you buy or recommend? A 1M or a M235?

I ask cause a local fellow is looking at mine, drove it today, and is going to test drive a M235 and make a decision after that.

Interesting question. I haven't driven the M235i yet.. Had a look at one and sat in it on Saturday but didn't have time to take it for a drive.

Having said that, I'd say that for most people the M235i is going to be the better choice. The 1M is a niche car and I don't think many people will see/understand the difference.

If you're a real driver then I'd say the 1M. For most of my friends, I'd recommend the 2 series... But I would also tell them that they probably don't need the M235i and to go for the 220...

thewafflecaust · 03-02-2014, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Harlequin

Interesting question. I haven't driven the M235i yet.. Had a look at one and sat in it on Saturday but didn't have time to take it for a drive.

Having said that, I'd say that for most people the M235i is going to be the better choice. The 1M is a niche car and I don't think many people will see/understand the difference.

If you're a real driver then I'd say the 1M. For most of my friends, I'd recommend the 2 series... But I would also tell them that they probably don't need the M235i and to go for the 220...

You know its a real shame we're not getting the 228i with the initial launch.

Harlequin · 03-02-2014, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by thewafflecaust

You know its a real shame we're not getting the 228i with the initial launch.

Agreed. Seriously. That's going to be the sweet spot for a lot of people...

Brissie · 03-02-2014, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Alpine*

Question, if you had $95+k to spend on a BM coupe! what would you buy or recommend? A 1M or a M235?

I ask cause a local fellow is looking at mine, drove it today, and is going to test drive a M235 and make a decision after that.

I would probably go for a 428 myself. Can't justify spending close to 100k on a 2 series, unless it was an M model.

Harlequin · 03-02-2014, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by bmw135fan

I would probably go for a 428 myself. Can't justify spending close to 100k on a 2 series, unless it was an M model.

That's the same decision as choosing between a 325i Coupé and a 135i Coupé of the last generation...

They're not really in the same category... I can't see many people having both of them on the same list when buying a car...

Alpine* · 03-02-2014, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by bmw135fan

I would probably go for a 428 myself. Can't justify spending close to 100k on a 2 series, unless it was an M model.

428? Different planet in size and different solar system in performance, anyway.

FYI you will never get a M car new for $100k, $120 maybe, we'll see..... In 18 months/2 years.

Brissie · 03-02-2014, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Harlequin

That's the same decision as choosing between a 325i Coupé and a 135i Coupé of the last generation...

They're not really in the same category... I can't see many people having both of them on the same list when buying a car...

Well, they are around the same price, both are BMW coupe, so why not? If one only cares about performance and not the aesthetic then the m135 would be the best buy.

Brissie · 03-02-2014, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Alpine*

428? Different planet in size and different solar system in performance, anyway.

FYI you will never get a M car new for $100k, $120 maybe, we'll see..... In 18 months/2 years.

I did not say I expect the m2 to be 100k, what I said was a m235 for close to 100k is too steep for me.
By the way, wasn't the 1m 100k retail before on road etc?

Using the a45/cla 45 as a reference point, would you say it is reasonable for the future m2 to be priced at 120k, 36 to 45k more, unless it is a whole class above in performance or luxury?

Harlequin · 03-02-2014, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by bmw135fan

Well, they are around the same price, both are BMW coupe, so why not? If one only cares about performance and not the aesthetic then the m135 would be the best buy.

M235i vs 428i:

Realistically the only points where they intersect are price and number of doors...

Pretty much every other aspect of each car is going to appeal to different people with different wants/needs....

I'm not saying that there's no one who would have a hard time choosing between the two. I'm just saying that they would be in the minority...

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