trade z4m for 1m coupe??

[mexicobmw]

I know this is a z4m forum and i am really in love with mine, but I have given the opportunity to trade my z4m for a 2011 1m coupe.+ around 16k.
I have been debating the idea due to 3 main reasons, 1 space: 2 vs 4 seats, secondly its a 2011 vs 2007 model I fear down the road problems of the older model even though my z4m has only 7,500 km and the 135i I had suffered hpfp problems. and lastly I was planning on supercharging my z4m which with install, etc would run me about 11k. therefore the difference would be aprox the same to upgrading and the 1m with a flash/exhaust and fmic will the 1m be as fast as the sc 1m?. (sc stage 1) dont want to go stage 3 in order to avoid problems.

therefore I would like to hear your honest opinion about this and also impressions if you have driven both. (the 135i at mexicos altitude was actually quite faster than the z4m but the driving of both could not be compared).

regards

diego

[baege]

My thoughts:

The 1M has visual presence, but can't compare to the presence of an Mcoupe.
Looks: M coupe
I haven't driven the 1M but I've driven several 135i's. Turbo lag is evident.
Engine: M coupe
I can't comment on the handling/feel of a 1M v. a Z4MC as I haven't driven a 1M but I can compare a 135i to a Z4MC and there is no comparison
Economics: the 1M will have greater initial depreciation until the point where it evens out. The Mcoupe has already evened out. Over the next 5 years the Mcoupe will cost you less. Your SC idea changes this dynamic of course, but really is the Z4MC not quick enough for you? I find that power once at a certain level is sufficient for fun spirited driving, and beyond that point the gains in overall driving enjoyment are minimal.

My vote: Z4MC, no question.

[SCHMOUPE]

I would in a heartbeat if it was a trade + less than 7k on top.

1M is a true beast. Might not be as unique as our moupes but it's a true M car with all the stats and characteristics to back it up.

[mbetoni]

I have driven both, including the 1M near it's limit @ M School in Spartanburg.

My $.02, as unbiased as can be not owning a Moupe, is to stick with it vs the 1er. It's a fine little car, but it just didn't strike the same chord in me that the Z4, with it's styling, layout and feel, does. I suppose your purposes are to be considered, if you're looking to improve lap times at the track, you should make whatever decision accomplishes your goal.

[Rated M Roadster]

I live at 5000 feet and my brothers E89 Z4 3.5is (same engine as 1M) walks away from my car like it's sitting still. Even after my SC, he'll probably still beat me. The 1M/Z4 N54 engine dynoed at 350+ wheel torque at 2500 rpm even at elevation (well over 400 lb/ft at the crank)...

They're both awesome cars no matter what you go with.

[GamblerHydra]

I have driven both , and to be honest not a big coupe fan by nature . I would though between the 2 stick with the Z4m. It is holding it's value well and pretty rock solid and should last you years . However, if you really functionally need the 2 extra seats do the deal.

[mexicobmw]

wow! thanks for the input and responses!! I do not track my car very often... I usually use it on weekends pnly on highways. (mexico-acapulco, etc...). I perfer the looks of the z4m no question but the 4 seats of the 1m appeal to me as does the turbo for the high altiude 7,550.... but as I said before with the 15k difference I was planning on sueprcharging them M to compesate for the altitude, I am just a bit worried about maintenance and reliability of the SC z4m....
regards
diego

[l4zy]

i would do it. both are awesome cars! 1m has more creature comforts and tech if you are into that sorta thing...i certainly am...

[dazed^]

How is this even a question?

[Huz-Z]

Originally Posted by Rated M Roadster

I live at 5000 feet and my brothers E89 Z4 3.5is (same engine as 1M) walks away from my car like it's sitting still. Even after my SC, he'll probably still beat me. The 1M/Z4 N54 engine dynoed at 350+ wheel torque at 2500 rpm even at elevation (well over 400 lb/ft at the crank)...

They're both awesome cars no matter what you go with.

I figured that. Funny though that Jason Plato of Fifth Gear dislikes the E89 chassis, while Top Gear's Clarkson loves it. Regardless of your view of the E89's handling characteristics relative to those of the E85, it always seemed to me that with all that power, an SDrive-35IS MUST be a pretty quick car.

On the 1M vs M Coupe, I think I would stick with your uber-low mileage M Coupe. Besides, its much better looking than a 1M. Just my two cents worth.

[SCHMOUPE]

Actually do it! Bring it to us and sell it. I just looked online and there is really not that many out there for sale. eBay has 0. cars.com has 1 within a 500 mile radious of NYC. Talk about rare!

[TexasZed4MC]

Having driven both on the track, both are wonderful cars. Newer BMW worry me when the warranty expires. The 1M in unique, but only your true BMW M people know what it is. The Z4 gets stares even thought most don't know if its and M or not. I prefer the normal asperated cars. Just less headache in the long run, even though you are talking supercharger. NOT because I own one, but the Z4 M Coupe was the last of the breed from the M Division. I vote Z4 M Coupe

[clashcity74]

Originally Posted by SCHMOUPE

...but it's a true M car with all the stats and characteristics to back it up.

Is it a true M car without an M motor?

I know our M Coupes are kind of a parts bin M much like the 1M but we've got the legit S54 whereas the 1M doesn't have a M built motor.

[Huz-Z]

Ditto that on the Z4 getting stares. It happens to me all the time and folks constantly tell me what a beautiful car it is.

[inTgr8r]

Originally Posted by Huz-Z

Ditto that on the Z4 getting stares. It happens to me all the time and folks constantly tell me what a beautiful car it is.

Don't you just hate it when that happens?

[Mtxzptlk]

Is that $16k USD?

It's an enticing proposition but i don't think scarcity of the 1M + performace gap from Z4M -> 1M is worth 16K if that is USD.

Both cars can't be too far away performance-wise.. no?

[Rated M Roadster]

Originally Posted by Mtxzptlk

Is that $16k USD?

It's an enticing proposition but i don't think scarcity of the 1M + performace gap from Z4M -> 1M is worth 16K if that is USD.

Both cars can't be too far away performance-wise.. no?

With elevation a factor, there's a huge power difference between a 1M and a Z4M.

[beta]

One thing to think about is re-sale value. If you care about that at all, the 1M will probably be worth more in the end. The reason is typically supercharged cars sell for about the same price as stock cars; don't know if it's any different in Mexico than here.

I vote Z4M supercharged, but I think you'll be happy either way.

[Kgolf31]

Originally Posted by Rated M Roadster

I live at 5000 feet and my brothers E89 Z4 3.5is (same engine as 1M) walks away from my car like it's sitting still. Even after my SC, he'll probably still beat me. The 1M/Z4 N54 engine dynoed at 350+ wheel torque at 2500 rpm even at elevation (well over 400 lb/ft at the crank)...

They're both awesome cars no matter what you go with.

Doesn't the 1M have overboost though?

The 1M is a beast enough said. The boost lag isn't what you think it is...launching the car, and trying to get out of first and into second without spinning wheels is hard...lol. I'm use to our cars launching at 3k, letting the tires grip, and into 2nd chirp. The 1M there is so much torque I ended up spinning into 2nd and kept spinning.

It's an insane car...the boost is addicting.

Originally Posted by beta

One thing to think about is re-sale value. If you care about that at all, the 1M will probably be worth more in the end. The reason is typically supercharged cars sell for about the same price as stock cars; don't know if it's any different in Mexico than here.

I vote Z4M supercharged, but I think you'll be happy either way.

1Ms are going used MORE than sticker. It's absolutely insane.

[Mtxzptlk]

Originally Posted by Rated M Roadster

With elevation a factor, there's a huge power difference between a 1M and a Z4M.

If that's the case I would lean towards the 1M.

My only issue would be the car + $$ monies towards it.

$16k + Z4M is too much to give IMO.

1M - better performer but the Z4M isn't a slouch either.

Very interested to see how OP goes about this.

[mexicobmw]

I was looking at used m3s 2009-2010 and they are only 10k difference from what i got offered for my z4m... its is also tempting..... again thanks for the replys and imput on the matter, the 1m is a true beast here at mexicos high altitude 135is are hard to bet let alone the 1m. which is very rare as only 30 were imported. I am going to drive the 1m on the weekend as well as the m3. I will let you know what I thought compared to the 1m.

[fairlady_z]

I feel that the Z4M and the 1M have one thing in common, which is rarity. Not many Z4M's were sold and BMW aren't making many 1M's. You rarely see them. Also, I think one thing many will agree on is that the price of the 1M is a bit much. I think for the price you are paying, you can get something else that's more worth it. It's really hard to justify the price of the 1M if you're not loaded with money. Yes, the 1M is visually appealing, it's new, it looks nice, it makes you drool, etc. In the end it's really what you want. People will be biased and people have their opinions. You should just do what makes you happy, hahaha.