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[tbone28]

I've always been a big fan of the LM's. I've now grown fond of the LM-R, which is what I'm considering for my soon to be E92.

Love the style, but don't love the lack of rim widths and offset choices.
Love how the LM-R looks on the E92. Don't love the fact that rim widths are limited to 9 and 10" in aggressive offset options.

Has anyone ever taken a BBS face and built it into a 3-piece wheel by sourcing a barrel and lip? I'm considering an 11" rear to accomodate a bigger step lip. And possibly a 9.5" front, both in aggressive offsets.

Please share pics if you've done so.

[bunnn]

Isn't there a 9.5/10.5 set up? Can always consider reversing the lip for a "bigger" step lip as well.

[tbone28]

Originally Posted by bunnn

Isn't there a 9.5/10.5 set up? Can always consider reversing the lip for a "bigger" step lip as well.

There is, but I lose the aggressive offsets.

[chuxdelux]

You can buy 11" LMs, they have them for sale on tirerack. As fas as coverting 2pc LMs to 3pc, you can contact Brian or Jason @ rotiform.com. I believe they sell barrels and lips in order to suit your needs.

[aus]

LTBMW has done it.

[tbone28]

Sorry, my initial post is confusing. I love the LM's, but I am looking at the LM-R's for this application. Thanks for the rotiform info.

[chuxdelux]

Originally Posted by tbone28

Sorry, my initial post is confusing. I love the LM's, but I am looking at the LM-R's for this application. Thanks for the rotiform info.

No prob, should be the same for both.

[tbone28]

Originally Posted by aus

LTBMW has done it.

Do you have links to pics?

[aus]

That was a long time ago. I can't even remember if it was on this side, or the E90 side. Pretty sure it was this side, either the Picture section or wheel section.

.

[tbone28]

no problem, I'll try to look for it

[808MGuy]

Originally Posted by tbone28

Do you have links to pics?

Here's one

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...%22x11%22+LM-R

[slicer]

I believe that BBS's barrels are forged which is what makes them somewhat unique. My understanding is that a typical 3 pcs wheel has "roll formed" barrels which are not technically forged. If I'm right, you would lose some of the strength that makes BBS special. I'm not 100% on this; maybe one of the experienced venders on this site will know for sure.

[tbone28]

Originally Posted by 808MGuy

Here's one

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...%22x11%22+LM-R

Thank you for finding me that link. It's sort of a hybrid of what I'd look to do. I like that he re-used a BBS barrel, but for me to go through all that work, time, and money, I'd want my end result to not have to use a spacer still...hence, my desire for a 3-piece.

Originally Posted by slicer

I believe that BBS's barrels are forged which is what makes them somewhat unique. My understanding is that a typical 3 pcs wheel has "roll formed" barrels which are not technically forged. If I'm right, you would lose some of the strength that makes BBS special. I'm not 100% on this; maybe one of the experienced venders on this site will know for sure.

Good info, I didn't know that about BBS barrels. To be honest, I'm going with the LM-R's because I like how they look on the car. But good to know their barrels are stronger. I've run HRE's and DPE's before and, yes, they do have soft barrels.

[Julius@Style77]

more and more guys are switching barrels and faces with BBS wheels to get the specs that they want. More common amongst the Audi and VW guys. Rotiform has been doing re servicing and remounting of projects like this for quite some time. I am not sure if they use aftermarket barrels or if they can source BBS barrels. Check with them. Could be an interesting project.

[tbone28]

Originally Posted by Julius@Style77

more and more guys are switching barrels and faces with BBS wheels to get the specs that they want. More common amongst the Audi and VW guys. Rotiform has been doing re servicing and remounting of projects like this for quite some time. I am not sure if they use aftermarket barrels or if they can source BBS barrels. Check with them. Could be an interesting project.

Will do. I have the LM-R's on order. Not sure how much of a market there is for BBS barrels, but if I can find a buyer, then I shall undertake this project.

[tbone28]

Called Rotiform. Here's what they told me:

1) They won't know if they can rebuild the wheel until the LM-R is taken apart so they can take some measurements
2) If they can rebuild it, parts costs are $225 per lip and per barrel
3) Labor costs are extra
4) I asked if there's a market for BBS barrels. He said not much in the 20" size.

Based on #1 and #4, looks like I won't be undertaking this project. Not wanting to disassemble a rim just for looksies.

[M3roar]

Originally Posted by tbone28

Called Rotiform. Here's what they told me:

1) They won't know if they can rebuild the wheel until the LM-R is taken apart so they can take some measurements
2) If they can rebuild it, parts costs are $225 per lip and per barrel
3) Labor costs are extra
4) I asked if there's a market for BBS barrels. He said not much in the 20" size.

Based on #1 and #4, looks like I won't be undertaking this project. Not wanting to disassemble a rim just for looksies.

So go down to a 19 inch size. More tire options and more performance. I seriously considered 20 inch wheels myself but theyre just too big. ( my opinion I know ). I think you gotta pay to play. With that said... its always gonna be a slight risk. I'm sure if you do end up doing it and it works. You'll have paved the way for a ton of people.

[Soorena]

I don't suggest this kind of works. I never mess with my tire/wheels, because if something goes wrong with them the result will be ugly. That's me and my opinion though.

[tbone28]

Originally Posted by M3roar

So go down to a 19 inch size. More tire options and more performance. I seriously considered 20 inch wheels myself but theyre just too big. ( my opinion I know ). I think you gotta pay to play. With that said... its always gonna be a slight risk. I'm sure if you do end up doing it and it works. You'll have paved the way for a ton of people.

IMO, when discussing purely the cosmetics of a wheel on the E92, I think either a 19" or 20" works, depending on the rim's style. A full-faced 20" rim is too big for the car IMO. However, a 20" step-lipped rim (like the LM-R) has a 19" face, and so the rim actually looks like a 19" rim. Similarly, if you have a 20" rim that doesn't have a step-lip (i.e. reverse lip), if the spokes extend all the way out to the lip, the rim looks too big on the car. However, if the spokes stop short of the spoke, it makes the rim look smaller than the 20" size. I think the LM-R in 19" size just doesn't look right, and the 20" LM-R is light enough for me. With that said, though, I don't think I"m pursuing this project anytime soon, mainly because I don't want to dismantle the rim "just" to see if it can be rebuilt. If it could definitely be done, I may pursue it.

Originally Posted by Soorena

I don't suggest this kind of works. I never mess with my tire/wheels, because if something goes wrong with them the result will be ugly. That's me and my opinion though.

Thank you, but I've been playing with rims and rebuilding rims for many, many years now. So long as you you find the right shop to do it, there should be no issues. I rebuilt the rims on both my mercedes and smart cars to give them bigger lips.

[M3roar]

Originally Posted by tbone28

IMO, when discussing purely the cosmetics of a wheel on the E92, I think either a 19" or 20" works, depending on the rim's style. A full-faced 20" rim is too big for the car IMO. However, a 20" step-lipped rim (like the LM-R) has a 19" face, and so the rim actually looks like a 19" rim. Similarly, if you have a 20" rim that doesn't have a step-lip (i.e. reverse lip), if the spokes extend all the way out to the lip, the rim looks too big on the car. However, if the spokes stop short of the spoke, it makes the rim look smaller than the 20" size. I think the LM-R in 19" size just doesn't look right, and the 20" LM-R is light enough for me. With that said, though, I don't think I"m pursuing this project anytime soon, mainly because I don't want to dismantle the rim "just" to see if it can be rebuilt. If it could definitely be done, I may pursue it.



Thank you, but I've been playing with rims and rebuilding rims for many, many years now. So long as you you find the right shop to do it, there should be no issues. I rebuilt the rims on both my mercedes and smart cars to give them bigger lips.

I do agree with your comment on the LM-R looking good as a 20 where as other wheels do look large. Good luck with your decision.

[slicer]

I think the 20" bbs lm-r is available with great width and offsets. I don't think you would gain anything by changing them. 19" LMR are available in 10" max width which would be worth widening...

[tbone28]

Originally Posted by slicer

I think the 20" bbs lm-r is available with great width and offsets. I don't think you would gain anything by changing them. 19" LMR are available in 10" max width which would be worth widening...

The 10.5" LM-R isn't offered in an aggressive offset. That's the issue. My goal would be a 10.5 or 11" rear with aggressive offsets to maximize the lip size.