Catless + xpipe= drone :( help !

aresh · 12-14-2011, 05:33 AM

Which axle back will give me minimal drone with a Catless and x pipe installed?

aresh · 12-14-2011, 05:44 AM

There are some exhausts that don't drone but those same exhaust become too loud when the system becomes Catless with an straight x pipe. My question is which exhaust will still be civilized with that setup? I kno akra and Dinan would be good choices but something more affordable than akra would be great!

JDM3 · 12-14-2011, 05:57 AM

AA

Raptor251 · 12-14-2011, 08:22 AM

I did the Fabspeed Maxflo mufflers with the RPI x pipe and I have NO drone. The fabspeed mufflers are really quiet to start with so with an x pipe they come alive!

THE TECH · 12-14-2011, 08:58 AM

The problem is that you want a straight piped setup with no drone. IMO, this is almost impossible.

Brian_VACsales · 12-14-2011, 09:27 AM

Fabspeed MaxFlo gets my vote. We have a 600hp supercharged E92 with no cats at all. Just a Fabspeed primary cat bypass, Fabspeed resonated XPipe and Fabspeed MaxFlo. Absolutely no drone at any reasonable driving speeds. The car sounds absolutely unreal at WOT, but on the highway it's close to stock. Best of both worlds - period.

We have them in stock, and we are kicking off a promo tomorrow :-)

Archiebabes · 12-14-2011, 09:40 AM

I have both cats deleted, using Akra Slip on no droning.

THE TECH · 12-14-2011, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike@VAC

Fabspeed MaxFlo gets my vote. We have a 600hp supercharged E92 with no cats at all. Just a Fabspeed primary cat bypass, Fabspeed resonated XPipe and Fabspeed MaxFlo. Absolutely no drone at any reasonable driving speeds. The car sounds absolutely unreal at WOT, but on the highway it's close to stock. Best of both worlds - period.

We have them in stock, and we are kicking off a promo tomorrow :-)

No offense to you Mike, but it's hard to get a real opinion from someone who is pushing a product on the OP. It may indeed perform as you say it will but it doesn't lead to credibility when you are trying to sell it.

Raptor251 · 12-14-2011, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike@VAC

Fabspeed MaxFlo gets my vote. We have a 600hp supercharged E92 with no cats at all. Just a Fabspeed primary cat bypass, Fabspeed resonated XPipe and Fabspeed MaxFlo. Absolutely no drone at any reasonable driving speeds. The car sounds absolutely unreal at WOT, but on the highway it's close to stock. Best of both worlds - period.

We have them in stock, and we are kicking off a promo tomorrow :-)

This guy is dead on, the Fabspeed mufflers have no drone. It took me 6 different exhaust configurations to get here but I am catless and have no drone. To take it one step further my Fabspeed mufflers are paired with one of the loudest x pipes in the game. These truly are amazing mufflers and I say that after owning two M3's and a bunch of different exhaust systems. Fabspeed FTW

Grail05 · 12-14-2011, 10:02 AM

Akra Slip On

dcgolfdr · 12-14-2011, 10:27 AM

I had a Bastuck clubsport matched up with a Gintani 4 resonator pipe. I had very little drone.

Brian_VACsales · 12-14-2011, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by THE TECH

No offense to you Mike, but it's hard to get a real opinion from someone who is pushing a product on the OP. It may indeed perform as you say it will but it doesn't lead to credibility when you are trying to sell it.

If you come by the shop today you will see Fabspeed, Akrapovic, Eisenmann and Meisterschaft E9x M3 systems around. We are a master Akrapovic dealer and we stock it. Installed a system a few days ago actually. We sell many different exhaust brands and systems (E9x, E8x, E46, E36 etc)

I can honestly say we have had incredible results on our E92 with Fabspeed products. Anyone here can stop by and go for a ride in our car at any time - quite a few local members have been in and around our car....no BS here

Credibility? We like to build credibility with real world results. If you were a bit closer I would invite you to stop by the shop or join us at the tracks

pbonsalb · 12-14-2011, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by THE TECH

The problem is that you want a straight piped setup with no drone. IMO, this is almost impossible.

This is the answer. Don't try to fix it with an axle back. At best you will end up with something so loud it masks the drone. Catless and resonatorless x-pipes are for kids or for race cars. At a minimum, add one pair of resonators. I am adding two pairs.

Boostin FD · 12-14-2011, 10:54 AM

if you want to get rid of drone, you'll have to put some resonators in the x-pipe... I highly doubt you can have just straight pipes and not have drone... I got a Borla X-pipe... haven't had time to install it yet, but it has 4 resonators so it should sound pretty good.

aresh · 12-14-2011, 11:26 AM

i took out the x pipe and added 4 resonators it still droned, its the muffler design that needs to be changed. Im thinking of tryint fabspeed to resolve my issue now

Grail05 · 12-14-2011, 11:37 AM

trust me since you have 4 resonator on your xpipe... akra will be your best bet... you can have it loud but at the same time its really quite on cruises...

aresh · 12-14-2011, 11:41 AM

i love the akra, but its $1500 more just the slip on!

per · 12-14-2011, 11:50 AM

I have an rpi catless midpipe, and Milltek Mufflers and have no drone at all.

akh23456 · 12-14-2011, 12:03 PM

AA and Fabspeed Maxflo are awesome had both, love my AA more tho. here some clips catless, x-pipe with resonators ,fabspeed and AA

THE TECH · 12-14-2011, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike@VAC

If you come by the shop today you will see Fabspeed, Akrapovic, Eisenmann and Meisterschaft E9x M3 systems around. We are a master Akrapovic dealer and we stock it. Installed a system a few days ago actually. We sell many different exhaust brands and systems (E9x, E8x, E46, E36 etc)

I can honestly say we have had incredible results on our E92 with Fabspeed products. Anyone here can stop by and go for a ride in our car at any time - quite a few local members have been in and around our car....no BS here

Credibility? We like to build credibility with real world results. If you were a bit closer I would invite you to stop by the shop or join us at the tracks

Like I said, no offense was meant. I just dislike sponsors chiming in trying to sell a part. Would you have mentioned another exhaust that you don't sell if you were unbiased if it fit the bill?

Brian_VACsales · 12-14-2011, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by THE TECH

Like I said, no offense was meant. I just dislike sponsors chiming in trying to sell a part. Would you have mentioned another exhaust that you don't sell if you were unbiased if it fit the bill?

I told him about a system that we run on our catless E92 that does not drone. We sell just about every legit exhaust line and we did a serious buy-in to be an Akrapovic dealer.

As a sponsor it's ideal to sell products based on real world results. I am doing just that

aresh · 12-22-2011, 02:28 PM

Just to update this thread, I bought the fab speed muffler and there's virtually no drone! Mike gave me amazing customer service! And it sounds amazing from outside but quiet in the cabin.

12-14-2011, 05:33 AM	#1
aresh First Lieutenant 31 Rep 369 Posts Drives: 2006 550i Join Date: May 2009 Location: NY iTrader: (1)	Catless + xpipe= drone :( help ! Which axle back will give me minimal drone with a Catless and x pipe installed?
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12-14-2011, 05:44 AM	#2
aresh First Lieutenant 31 Rep 369 Posts Drives: 2006 550i Join Date: May 2009 Location: NY iTrader: (1)	There are some exhausts that don't drone but those same exhaust become too loud when the system becomes Catless with an straight x pipe. My question is which exhaust will still be civilized with that setup? I kno akra and Dinan would be good choices but something more affordable than akra would be great!
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12-14-2011, 05:57 AM	#3
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12-14-2011, 08:22 AM	#4
Raptor251 ESS Dreaming 27 Rep 870 Posts Drives: 2011.5 e92 m3/Ford Raptor 6.2 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: San Diego iTrader: (1)	I did the Fabspeed Maxflo mufflers with the RPI x pipe and I have NO drone. The fabspeed mufflers are really quiet to start with so with an x pipe they come alive!
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12-14-2011, 09:27 AM	#6
Brian_VACsales Captain 194 Rep 933 Posts Drives: E92 M3 VF Supercharged, 135i Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Philadelphia, PA iTrader: (0)	Fabspeed MaxFlo gets my vote. We have a 600hp supercharged E92 with no cats at all. Just a Fabspeed primary cat bypass, Fabspeed resonated XPipe and Fabspeed MaxFlo. Absolutely no drone at any reasonable driving speeds. The car sounds absolutely unreal at WOT, but on the highway it's close to stock. Best of both worlds - period. We have them in stock, and we are kicking off a promo tomorrow :-) __________________ Brian Casella Sales Representative, VAC Motorsports Office: 215.462.4666 \| Fax: 215.462.4667 EXT 13 \| Email: brian@vacmotorsports.com
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Archiebabes Major 394 Rep 1,073 Posts Drives: F90 M5, Huracan EVO, R35 GTR Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Van Nuys, CA iTrader: (14)	I have both cats deleted, using Akra Slip on no droning.
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12-14-2011, 10:02 AM	#10
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12-14-2011, 10:27 AM	#11
dcgolfdr Wheelsucker 200 Rep 1,280 Posts Drives: Truck Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Arlington, VA iTrader: (16)	I had a Bastuck clubsport matched up with a Gintani 4 resonator pipe. I had very little drone.
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12-14-2011, 10:54 AM	#14
Boostin FD Bored all the time 382 Rep 2,173 Posts Drives: Batmobile Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Kirkwood iTrader: (2)	if you want to get rid of drone, you'll have to put some resonators in the x-pipe... I highly doubt you can have just straight pipes and not have drone... I got a Borla X-pipe... haven't had time to install it yet, but it has 4 resonators so it should sound pretty good. __________________ Current: 2014 991 Turbo RS Past: 15 GT3, 17 R8 SC, Two 16 M4 GTS’s, Two 18 GT350R's, Two 13 RS5’s, 13 M3, 10 R8, 15 M4, 09 M3, 04 M3, 09 S5, 02 M3... It all started with an RX-7 (FD).
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12-14-2011, 11:26 AM	#15
aresh First Lieutenant 31 Rep 369 Posts Drives: 2006 550i Join Date: May 2009 Location: NY iTrader: (1)	i took out the x pipe and added 4 resonators it still droned, its the muffler design that needs to be changed. Im thinking of tryint fabspeed to resolve my issue now
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12-14-2011, 11:37 AM	#16
Grail05 Putcha ang ganda... 281 Rep 5,441 Posts Drives: 17 F82 M4 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Los Angeles, Brea CA. iTrader: (10)	trust me since you have 4 resonator on your xpipe... akra will be your best bet... you can have it loud but at the same time its really quite on cruises... __________________
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12-14-2011, 11:41 AM	#17
aresh First Lieutenant 31 Rep 369 Posts Drives: 2006 550i Join Date: May 2009 Location: NY iTrader: (1)	i love the akra, but its $1500 more just the slip on!
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12-14-2011, 11:50 AM	#18
per Lieutenant 47 Rep 507 Posts Drives: M3 E92 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sweden Gothenburg iTrader: (0)	I have an rpi catless midpipe, and Milltek Mufflers and have no drone at all. __________________ M3 E92 ESS VT-625
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12-22-2011, 02:28 PM	#22
aresh First Lieutenant 31 Rep 369 Posts Drives: 2006 550i Join Date: May 2009 Location: NY iTrader: (1)	Just to update this thread, I bought the fab speed muffler and there's virtually no drone! Mike gave me amazing customer service! And it sounds amazing from outside but quiet in the cabin.
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