$800 intake vs $80 filter. Any difference?

LarThaL · 09-10-2011, 05:46 AM

I know it is only a minor mod, but is there really any difference either in sound or the small hp gain? Is all that extra money just for a nice looking tube with a designer name?

gthal · 09-10-2011, 05:54 AM

Nice tubing and name

is the benefit of the intake.

I believe the consensus is the drop in filter is all you need (and even then many believe there is nominal benefit at the risk of less filtering)

saeedg48 · 09-10-2011, 05:58 AM

sorry to all those vender out there you're going to shoot me for revealing
the truth but the stock intake is better then anything out there.

J08M3 · 09-10-2011, 07:40 AM

some try to claim 3 more hp with the full intake. I call BS on it. In fact the only time I remember seeing gains on a dyno with one are when the dyno is done by the manufacturer of the intake.

Grail05 · 09-10-2011, 09:28 AM

Buy the scoop and filter and call it a day....

Rshane · 09-10-2011, 09:35 AM

Only difference is about $720

Singletrack · 09-10-2011, 09:46 AM

Dinan and EAS (Macht Schnell) both claim gains based on actual dyno time. A large number of people claim they are lying without any data to back it up. Summary: we need more independent dynos.

///M Ryder · 09-10-2011, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SehrSchnell

I think they work best in conjunction with tune and exhaust.

This..............Phil

Brucewonder · 09-10-2011, 02:45 PM

just get a $60 K&N filter shipped and call it a day

J08M3 · 09-10-2011, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Singletrack

Dinan and EAS (Macht Schnell) both claim gains based on actual dyno time. A large number of people claim they are lying without any data to back it up. Summary: we need more independent dynos.

Or just independent dyno's. Both companies here have an invested interest in making the product show gains.

Funny how well respected IND never posted their dyno of the product

rjd598 · 09-10-2011, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brucewonder

just get a $60 K&N filter shipped and call it a day

this. not breaking the wallet and if you believe in the gains then you can sleep well at night and let the haters cry about it.

isugoo · 09-10-2011, 03:39 PM

Dad dinan and went back to filter since I didn't notice any different other than less balance in my bank account.

mike33176 · 09-10-2011, 03:41 PM

Get The AA Green filter with the cleaning kit and you'll be very happy!

Singletrack · 09-10-2011, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J08M3

Or just independent dyno's. Both companies here have an invested interest in making the product show gains.

Funny how well respected IND never posted their dyno of the product

Well if IND got bad results, and didn't post them, then that is even worse. I mean let's spell it out since that is what you are implying. By the way, IND sells that intake still.

Singletrack · 09-10-2011, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by isugoo

Dad dinan and went back to filter since I didn't notice any different other than less balance in my bank account.

I would be amazed if anyone could notice 2-? HP on a 400+ HP car.

Tim B. · 09-10-2011, 08:29 PM

Well, ultimately it's YOUR $$ and only you can decide what you want to spend it on. I did the AFE stage 2(and iirc it was about $400) because someone on here(won't mention names) got 6 rwhp with it, so i did it and the scoops. Did i notice anything? Not really. I also did UDPs, midpipe, and rear exhaust and now a tune (Evolve). So by now, who knows what actually did what

I just know the car is/feels faster than stock

Would i do it over again? Probably so, because $400 is not THAT big of a deal to me.

J08M3 · 09-10-2011, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Singletrack

Well if IND got bad results, and didn't post them, then that is even worse. I mean let's spell it out since that is what you are implying. By the way, IND sells that intake still.

Spelled clearly here http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...age+intake+ind

Singletrack · 09-10-2011, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SehrSchnell

So? IND is a vendor selling tons of products... why should they provide you with any dyno results?

IND claims that they only sell quality products. Clearly if they are selling an intake that does not make power, that would hurt their reputation - that's just common sense.

Singletrack · 09-10-2011, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J08M3

Spelled clearly here http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...age+intake+ind

My spelling must suck. In which post does IND say that the intake doesn't make power?

///M Ryder · 09-10-2011, 10:38 PM

Let your wallet be your guide.....there are far too many "experts" on wall$treet. Go for what you know and call it a day...............Phil

Trevor .:R · 09-10-2011, 11:24 PM

http://shoprpi.com/product_info.php?...75e065b71d2a9a

^^ get those in red and you wont regret it! I did a dyno of about 356 with the scoops a BMC filter and a Rpi GTM axleback exhaust!

gthal · 09-11-2011, 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Singletrack

IND claims that they only sell quality products. Clearly if they are selling an intake that does not make power, that would hurt their reputation - that's just common sense.

The product is a quality product (build, fitment, etc)... the gains are what are suspect. IND would not test every product it sells to verify manufacturer claims, what vendor would. If IND said there were gains, I would believe it. If IND is silent on the matter, then I would want to see independent verification.

You also have to remember that lots of guys buy intakes for the look, sound and even the chance of gains.

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