Scott: Performance Parts?

[superchargedman]

Hey Scott,

Are performance and cosmetic parts still planned? It seems as though many other companies are exploiting the hood, spoiler lip, side grille, etc. market, but BMW has become quiet about releasing anything that was featured on the MotoGP car.

P.S. What happened to the M stripes sticker that was going to be offered? Thanks!

[Satalite]

Originally Posted by superchargedman

Hey Scott,

Are performance and cosmetic parts still planned? It seems as though many other companies are exploiting the hood, spoiler lip, side grille, etc. market, but BMW has become quiet about releasing anything that was featured on the MotoGP car.

P.S. What happened to the M stripes sticker that was going to be offered? Thanks!

Good question! Some parts carried over from the 135i, but there are still a bunch of parts that I would like to see BMWPerformance take a look into and release.

[fastauto]

2nd. I thought these things were coming to market

[evolution80]

i would like them to release the performance seats with orange stitching - and a cf rear diffusor

[Jezzer]

Originally Posted by evolution80

i would like them to release the performance seats with orange stitching - and a cf rear diffusor

The performance seats although a great, light Recaro set of seats, they just look totally out of place inside the 1M. I agree if they were trimmed in the same colour with the orange stitching I would get a set.

[Dackelone]

I don't think BMW is gonna offer another hood. Scott26 said last week (in the new ActivE thread) that the reason why M did not go with a power dome hood was because it impacted the high speed aerodynamics.

Still... any good body shop should be able to custom make you one.


See Scott26's post #45...

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showt...=560782&page=3

[BimmerMat135]

Some aftermarket power upgrades will be great for the 1M.

[as7920]

I've read that the BMW Peformance range will be rebranded later this year, is that true and will the release of 1M specific parts coincide with this?

[Satalite]

That could be nice

[bmw13]

Originally Posted by Dackelone

I don't think BMW is gonna offer another hood. Scott26 said last week (in the new ActivE thread) that the reason why M did not go with a power dome hood was because it impacted the high speed aerodynamics.

Still... any good body shop should be able to custom make you one.


See Scott26's post #45...

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showt...=560782&page=3

My point exactly, BMW knows what they are doing! I pointed this out on the clock work orange VO 1M project car!The dome on the ///M3 actually serves the engine purpose allowing more air into the engine. While adding a dome on the hood of a 1M actually serves the car a wrong. This car possesses a very, very special recipe, don't F with it!

[mPlasticDesign]

Originally Posted by bmw13

...The dome on the ///M3 actually serves the engine purpose allowing more air into the engine...

Actually, you would not even be able to close the hood on the S65 without the powerdome/bulge on the hood. It gives the plenum enough clearance, because it sits pretty high and would hit the underside of the hood. I have never read that it had anything to do with airflow.

[Red135]

Originally Posted by bmw13

This car possesses a very, very special recipe, don't F with it!

A recipe so special they took the hood directly off the 128/135.

[HP Autosport]

Originally Posted by Dackelone

I don't think BMW is gonna offer another hood. Scott26 said last week (in the new ActivE thread) that the reason why M did not go with a power dome hood was because it impacted the high speed aerodynamics.

Still... any good body shop should be able to custom make you one.


See Scott26's post #45...

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showt...=560782&page=3

We sell a CF power dome hood for the 1M. It has fantastic fit and finish.

-Tyler

[bmw13]

Originally Posted by ///Metak

Actually, you would not even be able to close the hood on the S65 without the powerdome/bulge on the hood. It gives the plenum enough clearance, because it sits pretty high and would hit the underside of the hood. I have never read that it had anything to do with airflow.

If you watch the BMW Promotional DVD that talks about the ///M3, an ///M engineer himself states this very clearly.

Here's is the video after an hour of searching! Watch around 2:27-3:07

[bmw13]

Originally Posted by Red135

A recipe so special they took the hood directly off the 128/135.

^ LOL! Recipe for weight to power...

If you are talking cosmetically sure...I was referring to the weight balance of the car. I would never buy a hood knowing it just was for looks, I am a form fits function type of guy but to each their own. It would thoroughly bother me if that Power-dome was there for no reason and just for looks. That is a Mercedes or Audi move, not BMW. They do everything for a reason to only better the car. Not hurt it like adding a power dome to hurt top end speed... again to each their own.

[mPlasticDesign]

Originally Posted by bmw13

If you watch the BMW Promotional DVD that talks about the ///M3, an ///M engineer himself states this very clearly.

Here's is the video after an hour of searching! Watch around 2:27-3:07

I am quite familiar with the video but you are still wrong if you are using this video to base what you are saying. You said it "serves to allow more air into the engine", but rather it serves to accommodate the large plenum of the S65 engine like I said. He even states in the video that the motor engineers went to the designers and told them they needed more 'air volume' under the hood(more room) for the 'engine'. So THEN the designers incorporated the bulge as a "design" element. I don't think it really helped the aerodynamics of the car, but the engine requirements trumped aerodynamics in this case. It's a chicken or the egg argument. You are stating that the chicken came first, I am stating that the egg did.

The bulge itself does not increase flow to the engine like you stated.

Originally Posted by bmw13

...The dome on the ///M3 actually serves the engine purpose allowing more air into the engine. ...

[bmw13]

Originally Posted by ///Metak

I am quite familiar with the video but you are still wrong if you are using this video to base what you are saying. You said it "serves to allow more air into the engine", but rather it serves to accommodate the large plenum of the S65 engine like I said. He even states in the video that the motor engineers went to the designers and told them they needed more 'air volume' under the hood(more room) for the 'engine'. So THEN the designers incorporated the bulge as a "design" element.

The bulge itself does not increase flow to the engine like you stated.

Ooooooh you know what I meant... sorry I misunderstood from three years back, my point was that it served a purpose that's all.I apologize I didn't get the lingo exact geez. Take a Xanex.

I just remember them saying something about air and a blurry memory at that!

[mPlasticDesign]

Originally Posted by bmw13

It would thoroughly bother me if that Power-dome was there for no reason and just for looks. That is a Mercedes or Audi move, not BMW. They do everything for a reason to only better the car. Not hurt it like adding a power dome to hurt top end speed... again to each their own.

Seriously? The E46 M3 had a powerdome that was form over function. What purpose do the side gills serve on any M car? It's OK to have form that serves no other function other than to 'look good'.

Originally Posted by bmw13

Ooooooh you know what I meant... sorry I misunderstood from three years back, my point was that it served a purpose that's all.I apologize I didn't get the lingo exact geez. Take a Xanex.

I just remember them saying something about air and a blurry memory at that!

LOL. I love it when someone is wrong they resort to telling the other party to chill or take a Xanex when in actuality, they are the ones upset. What about the rear "vents" on the 1M? Any issues with that? The E9x M3 has a hood vent on the passenger side that is there for purely cosmetic purposes, to add symmetry to the look of the hood. If you were the designer you would leave it off because you are a hardcore purely "function over form" guy?

[Red135]

Originally Posted by bmw13

If you are talking cosmetically sure...I was referring to the weight balance of the car.

Wait...what? So you are saying that a dome hood would throw off the weight balance of the car?

[mPlasticDesign]

Originally Posted by Red135

Wait...what? So you are saying that a dome hood would throw off the weight balance of the car?

Yes, it's a very, very special recipe!

Wait very, very, very...! Is that enough very's?

[bmw13]

Originally Posted by ///Metak

Seriously? The E46 M3 had a powerdome that was form over function. What purpose do the side gills serve on any M car? It's OK to have form that serves no other function other than to 'look good'.


LOL. I love it when someone is wrong they resort to telling the other party to chill or take a Xanex when in actuality, they are the ones upset. What about the rear "vents" on the 1M? Any issues with that? The E9x M3 has a hood vent on the passenger side that is there for purely cosmetic purposes, to add symmetry to the look of the hood. If you were the designer you would leave it off because you are a hardcore purely "function over form" guy?

Okay, maybe I should have explained myself since I do not like where this is going...
1. I am upset.
2.The rear vents are part of the "curtain drag system" listed under standard option features on the window sticker. Those vents and curtain drag system serve as a purpose, drag and downforce or at least that is what we are made to think Do I entirely believe that? no, but the thought still makes me happy.
3.I would not leave those off, you are entirely correct. All I am saying is there should be somewhat of a function for a design element so prominent as a hood bulge. I did misunderstand M's purpose initially, now I understand. And I am still very happy that there is engine actually in that bulge. PEACE FRIEND.

[bmw13]

Originally Posted by Red135

Wait...what? So you are saying that a dome hood would throw off the weight balance of the car?

No I am saying if you stray from BMW original design(in weight aspect) you lose balance of the car. If you add a hood bulge on the 1M it has been confirmed it does hurt top end speed. You are combing to of my different ideas into one. They are separate. I am done getting attacked now... Please