Cost of launching your car?

brandonwuwux3 · 09-17-2010, 12:00 AM

what gets damaged when launching your car..i have a DCT i just wanna know the downside thanks!

SleepyE90 · 09-17-2010, 12:06 AM

tires

brandonwuwux3 · 09-17-2010, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SuperlativE90

tires

thats it? does it damage the DCT or wear the clutch real fast? any engine damage?

Poppin Fresh · 09-17-2010, 12:39 AM

What about wearing the drive shaft or axles?

Donbona · 09-17-2010, 03:32 AM

It could blow the tranny if you use it too many times.

dvpouldar26 · 09-17-2010, 04:34 AM

If on a 6mt, a common problem that has arisen are tweaked and bent subframes, and the bracket and bolt that locate the rear diff breaking.This could ruin the whole geometry of the rear suspension, put strain on the axles and is dangerous to drive on. This has happened to a few people so far. The new e9x m3's just aren't engineered to take a beating as the old e46's. Some subframe connectors would be a good solution, but none are out yet.

bren335i · 09-17-2010, 06:14 AM

I'd like to see that happening above, E46's rip the subframes out from repeated launching. I don't see what you said above happening at all.

elh0102 · 09-17-2010, 08:07 AM

It stresses everything in the drivetrain, clutches, gears, u-joints, axle shafts, etc. I find that most folks who have spent any time working on cars, will generally engage it one time.

FLOSS M · 09-17-2010, 08:09 AM

If you own the car, I would not use it very much. However, if it is leased......

Kyoshi71 · 09-17-2010, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Donbona

It could blow the tranny if you use it too many times.

Is there any evidence of this?

Kyoshi71 · 09-17-2010, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by PencilGeek

One word:

STICKY

What do you mean? As in "subject"

KiokenM3 · 09-17-2010, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PencilGeek

One word:

STICKY

j never blew the tranny, his discs were worn out prematurely d/t launching his car many times. if your referring to him building his tranny its because he's going to make big power and wanted to bulletproof weak links

dvpouldar26 · 09-17-2010, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bren335i

I'd like to see that happening above, E46's rip the subframes out from repeated launching. I don't see what you said above happening at all.

True, but the e46's had the aftermarket to solve that problem. A few people I know have had these problems with their e9x and shops like autotalent have also reported the same. Maybe sam himself will chime in.

SleepyE90 · 09-17-2010, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by PencilGeek

One word:

STICKY

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Good one, Robert.

Malek@MRF · 09-17-2010, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dvpouldar26

The new e9x m3's just aren't engineered to take a beating as the old e46's. Some subframe connectors would be a good solution, but none are out yet.

From an engineering standpoint, nothing about the E46 M3 is superior to the E92 M3. Not the chassis, not the frame, not the electronics. You MAY be able to debate the engine, but I the S65 is a wonder in itself just like the S54.

So, to politely put it, I cannot agree with you on this.

powertrip · 09-17-2010, 08:00 PM

Ignore a certain person's comments regarding Sticky's trans, as that is a case of severe abuse. The only result? Worn clutches...that's it. There isn't a single case of the DCT trannie failing due to power or launching. Your local BMW dealer is probably your DCT's biggest risk

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Singletrack · 09-17-2010, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by PencilGeek

No, the person whose screen name is "Sticky."

Outlier.

Next?

Singletrack · 09-18-2010, 12:48 AM

You take the Internet too seriously pg if you read anything in this thread as an "attack". You're the only one I see "causing drama" in this thread.

The gtr is a totally different beast - power, design, warranty, the way you access launch control. Didn't they take out launch control altogether in the second MY?

Anything on the car will fail with abuse.

The last thing we need is a generation of constipated people that are scared to drive the car the way it was intended to be driven.

If dct damage were so widespread, then why is no one talking about it on the Internet? We all know this is where the world comes to complain.

saeedg48 · 09-18-2010, 01:02 AM

1ft roll out before flooring it would help the longevity of the vehicle & vehicles components.

brandonwuwux3 · 09-18-2010, 01:38 AM

Thanks for the help guys! So according to previous owner the car has been launched 20-30 times over 2 years I didn't know Because I bought this car at a dealer auction woullf you uys consider this a horrible number?

Finnegan · 09-18-2010, 02:16 AM

You bought this car? The issue here would be more along the lines of what other type of hard use did the car get? Now and then LC use isn't going to kill the car, but if the previous owner is telling you 30 time I'd have to wonder if that's a bit understated....

I'm not saying you need to freak out. Rather, I'd try to find out what else I could about the previous driver's use so I could plan for the future.

CPO? Under warranty?

brandonwuwux3 · 09-18-2010, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Finnegan

You bought this car? The issue here would be more along the lines of what other type of hard use did the car get? Now and then LC use isn't going to kill the car, but if the previous owner is telling you 30 time I'd have to wonder if that's a bit understated....

I'm not saying you need to freak out. Rather, I'd try to find out what else I could about the previous driver's use so I could plan for the future.

CPO? Under warranty?

Yes it is bought! From what I heard he also had it powerchipped :O that's about it..that I know of oh and it is under warranty still only 15k miles unless launching voids..

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bren335i Banned 10 Rep 203 Posts Drives: E60 M5 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: BOSTON iTrader: (0)	I'd like to see that happening above, E46's rip the subframes out from repeated launching. I don't see what you said above happening at all.
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brandonwuwux3 Captain 116 Rep 905 Posts Drives: f80 m3cs Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: SOCAL 626 iTrader: (3)	Thanks for the help guys! So according to previous owner the car has been launched 20-30 times over 2 years I didn't know Because I bought this car at a dealer auction woullf you uys consider this a horrible number?
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