Stoptech Trophy Sport BBK

consolidated · 06-07-2010, 01:12 PM

I wasn't in the market for this but AA's special was too good to pass up. It looks like a good kit for the money. I appreciate the stud mounts and jet nuts over the bolts that came on the Brembo GT kit for my Cayman S, this method shouldn't strip out the adapter. The stud kit is an added option on Brembos.

I'll install it this weekend and report back. So far I'm impressed. The pics show a BMW Williams F1 carbon/carbon rotor and F1 Pankl forged titanium con rod for a size comparison, the 380mm rotors are just enormous... and the rod is tiny.

tom @ eas · 06-07-2010, 01:32 PM

Very nice. Looking forward to your updates.

Prit@Euro Autowerx · 06-07-2010, 01:41 PM

looking good.

aus · 06-07-2010, 02:02 PM

Those look sweet. They should make all their calipers look like that.

SUB-ZERO · 06-07-2010, 02:28 PM

wow....looks very expensive. Very nice.

KM3 · 06-07-2010, 03:26 PM

Beautiful looking kit! Can you confirm that the front rotor is a 380 X 32mm rotor as opposed to the 380 X 35mm rotor used on their standard 6-pot kits?

consolidated · 06-07-2010, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KM3

Beautiful looking kit! Can you confirm that the front rotor is a 380 X 32mm rotor as opposed to the 380 X 35mm rotor used on their standard 6-pot kits?

The front is 35mm thick, which I believe is what's advertised.

KM3 · 06-07-2010, 06:19 PM

Thanks for confirming. The literature and specs listed on various sources online are confusing. For instance, going to Stoptech's page for wheel fitment templates, you'll notice the following listing: "E90 & E92 M3 2008-2009, Front 380x35 ST-60". However, clicking on that yields a template PDF that says "BMW M3 E92 '09 FRONT 380x32 - ST60".

Zeckhausen's site lists the standard 6-pot front kit as a 380x35, yet they list the Trophy kit as a 380x32. These discrepancies are all over the place so I'm just looking for some definitive measurements from someone with the kit.

mastek · 06-07-2010, 11:21 PM

why do u have a set of rotors from an F1 car?

consolidated · 06-07-2010, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mastek

why do u have a set of rotors from an F1 car?

Ebay find curiosity piece.

rzm3 · 06-07-2010, 11:50 PM

According to zeckhausen.com:

Standard BBK: 380x35mm
Trophy Sport: 380x32mm

GewoW · 06-08-2010, 12:07 AM

What is the difference between the std and Trophy sport versions?

aus · 06-08-2010, 12:11 AM

The Trophy kit has some metal trimmed off, and so they looks really good. Now it looks like the trophy may have a little thinner rotor too. There are also two Trophy systems, one without dust boots and one with dust boots.
According to a a Roudel article last month, they're all forged calipers.

rzm3 · 06-08-2010, 12:17 AM

Yup StopTech prides itself by having forged, two-piece aluminum calipers with a steel bridge to increase caliper stiffness.

GewoW · 06-08-2010, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by aus

The Trophy kit has some metal trimmed off, and so they looks really good. Now it looks like the trophy may have a little thinner rotor too. There are also two Trophy systems, one without dust boots and one with dust boots.
According to a a Roudel article last month, they're all forged calipers.

Shaved off in the sense that they don't last as long, or that they are just lighter than the regular version. Other than this, any other differences? I noticed the diff caliper color too...

rzm3 · 06-08-2010, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by GewoW

Shaved off in the sense that they don't last as long, or that they are just lighter than the regular version. Other than this, any other differences? I noticed the diff caliper color too...

Shaved off in terms of more weight optimization (more engineering) and more machining (higher cost). Caliper reliability should not change.

They are basically a lighter version of the standard, in addition to the apparent decrease in disc thickness and paint scheme.

ST probably designed these for race applications and then saw a market for the street cars.

aus · 06-08-2010, 12:24 AM

They're lighter.
Here's the Roundel article: http://roundel.imirus.com/Mpowered/i...ssue=5&page=88

GewoW · 06-08-2010, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by rldzhao

Shaved off in terms of more weight optimization (more engineering) and more machining (higher cost). Caliper reliability should not change.

They are basically a lighter version of the standard, in addition to the apparent decrease in disc thickness and paint scheme.

Thanks man.

P.S. Wheels (C10s) should be coming in soon - they f'ed up and sent them to the powdercoater again by mistake wasting a few extra days...ahhhh.

rzm3 · 06-08-2010, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by GewoW

Thanks man.

P.S. Wheels (C10s) should be coming in soon - they f'ed up and sent them to the powdercoater again by mistake wasting a few extra days...ahhhh.

Welcome to the world of small businesses: inadequate quality control and non-streamlined processes.

GewoW · 06-08-2010, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by rldzhao

Welcome to the world of small businesses: inadequate quality control and non-streamlined processes.

Yeah just thinking about it now made me send them an email...anywho, I don't want to thread-jack.

M II · 06-08-2010, 11:23 AM

Your car is going to be kick ass!

Nice brakes. One of the most responsive systems out there!

consolidated · 06-08-2010, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GewoW

Shaved off in the sense that they don't last as long, or that they are just lighter than the regular version. Other than this, any other differences? I noticed the diff caliper color too...

The fasteners bolting the caliper halves together are different. The regular kit uses a bolt into threaded caliper bodies, you can see the Trophy uses a thru bolt and nut. My guess would be to get higher clamping forces to compensate for the decrease in caliper material.

Stoptech technical support looked up the part numbers and said the trophy race/sport front 380mm rotors are 35mm. Either Zeck has a typo or are selling a slightly different spec kit. I'm fine with it either way.

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aus Major General 893 Rep 9,032 Posts Drives: Odysse Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Seal Beach, CA iTrader: (10)	Those look sweet. They should make all their calipers look like that. __________________ Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by some of the top engineers in the world because some guys sponsored by a company told you it's "better??" But when you ask the same guy about tracking, "oh no, I have a kid now" or "I just detailed my car." or "i just got new tires."
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KM3 Formerly K335i 19 Rep 215 Posts Drives: 2009 E92 M3 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Redmond, WA iTrader: (0)	Beautiful looking kit! Can you confirm that the front rotor is a 380 X 32mm rotor as opposed to the 380 X 35mm rotor used on their standard 6-pot kits? __________________ 2009 E92 M3 :: Jet Black :: Fox Red Extended :: Carbon Leather :: 6MT :: JRZ RS Suspension :: RD Sport Sways :: StopTech Trophy Brakes :: Cantrell Brake Cooling
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KM3 Formerly K335i 19 Rep 215 Posts Drives: 2009 E92 M3 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Redmond, WA iTrader: (0)	Thanks for confirming. The literature and specs listed on various sources online are confusing. For instance, going to Stoptech's page for wheel fitment templates, you'll notice the following listing: "E90 & E92 M3 2008-2009, Front 380x35 ST-60". However, clicking on that yields a template PDF that says "BMW M3 E92 '09 FRONT 380x32 - ST60". Zeckhausen's site lists the standard 6-pot front kit as a 380x35, yet they list the Trophy kit as a 380x32. These discrepancies are all over the place so I'm just looking for some definitive measurements from someone with the kit. __________________ 2009 E92 M3 :: Jet Black :: Fox Red Extended :: Carbon Leather :: 6MT :: JRZ RS Suspension :: RD Sport Sways :: StopTech Trophy Brakes :: Cantrell Brake Cooling
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aus Major General 893 Rep 9,032 Posts Drives: Odysse Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Seal Beach, CA iTrader: (10)	The Trophy kit has some metal trimmed off, and so they looks really good. Now it looks like the trophy may have a little thinner rotor too. There are also two Trophy systems, one without dust boots and one with dust boots. According to a a Roudel article last month, they're all forged calipers. __________________ Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by some of the top engineers in the world because some guys sponsored by a company told you it's "better??" But when you ask the same guy about tracking, "oh no, I have a kid now" or "I just detailed my car." or "i just got new tires."
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rzm3 Moderator 673 Rep 4,737 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: USA iTrader: (18)	Yup StopTech prides itself by having forged, two-piece aluminum calipers with a steel bridge to increase caliper stiffness.
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aus Major General 893 Rep 9,032 Posts Drives: Odysse Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Seal Beach, CA iTrader: (10)	They're lighter. Here's the Roundel article: http://roundel.imirus.com/Mpowered/i...ssue=5&page=88 __________________ Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by some of the top engineers in the world because some guys sponsored by a company told you it's "better??" But when you ask the same guy about tracking, "oh no, I have a kid now" or "I just detailed my car." or "i just got new tires."
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