Benefits of Dinan springs??

[BimmerRob08]

I've been looking over the theads on spring install and I'm a bit undecided if I want to go with it. the reasons why I'm not sure is for the following;

bottom scrappings, EDC malfunctions, too stiff for regular & highway use.

The reasons why I'd like to go with lower springs;

More solid stance, performance handling, looks.

So I think I've read where Dinan springs are accepted by BMW for warrenty issues and they don't drop the chassis as far as H&R or Eibach's, etc. Might be the right choice. What does everyone else think? by the way, I would probebly add 10-12mm spaces too to complement the lower stance/look. But don't want to go any more for inner wheel well rubbing issues.

[J08M3]

Dinan just offers their own warranty in place of BMW for parts that have to do with them.

I've been running Eibachs for about 5 months now and don't have any of the negative problems Dinan claims will happen if you don't buy their product for 4X the price.

[BimmerRob08]

Interesting, so Dinan is making some false claims just to market their products? I've read some other negaitve reviews of Dinan with other products. I'll keep that in mind.

[Radiation Joe]

Originally Posted by BimmerRob08

Interesting, so Dinan is making some false claims just to market their products? I've read some other negaitve reviews of Dinan with other products. I'll keep that in mind.

What do you mean, false claims? Dinan matches the factory warranty if you have any problems with the dealer rejecting a claim based on the use of Dinan components. Read the info on the Dinan site. There is nothing misleading there.

[AMPowerJ]

Originally Posted by J08M3

Dinan just offers their own warranty in place of BMW for parts that have to do with them.

I've been running Eibachs for about 5 months now and don't have any of the negative problems Dinan claims will happen if you don't buy their product for 4X the price.

Dinan doesn't claim anything really negative will happen with other springs in 5 months or 5 years. However, it is likely going to take much longer than 5 months to see if Dinan is indeed the best choice for the money. Dinan actually doesn't claim anything negative ... they are just stating the facts about the OEM suspension and how they found it best to deal with it it terms of lowering springs.

Not sure why there are so many Dinan haters. If you don't want to spend the money for something that is engineered specifically for your car then don't! Really no reason to bash.

Enjoy your Eibachs and let us know in a couple of years your impressions. Hopefully you will still be pleased and I am not saying that you will not be but I guarantee you my Dinan springs will be just as good as your Eibachs by then and if I had any problems along the way I will have them solved by Dinan. Good luck getting Eibach to help you out with your EDC, etc.

Only time will tell and your post means nothing.

[BimmerRob08]

thanks for clearing that up fella's, I did not mean that Dinan is making false claims or anything of the sort. I ment that I've read a few posts on here bashing Dinan and was wondering why. I'm sure Dinan springs are good and if matched for the M3 then worth the money.

[J08M3]

Originally Posted by AMPowerJ

Dinan doesn't claim anything really negative will happen with other springs in 5 months or 5 years. However, it is likely going to take much longer than 5 months to see if Dinan is indeed the best choice for the money. Dinan actually doesn't claim anything negative ... they are just stating the facts about the OEM suspension and how they found it best to deal with it it terms of lowering springs.

Not sure why there are so many Dinan haters. If you don't want to spend the money for something that is engineered specifically for your car then don't! Really no reason to bash.

Enjoy your Eibachs and let us know in a couple of years your impressions. Hopefully you will still be pleased and I am not saying that you will not be but I guarantee you my Dinan springs will be just as good as your Eibachs by then and if I had any problems along the way I will have them solved by Dinan. Good luck getting Eibach to help you out with your EDC, etc.

Only time will tell and your post means nothing.

I don't hate Dinan at all, just wouldn't spend 4X the money for a set of springs. If my post means nothing to you then you didn't need to respond to it. Keep your negativity elsewhere. I was just sharing my experience with the OP, so hopefully he at least found some use in it. Not sure why so many people start crying on this forum when you don't like the product they chose to buy?

[AMPowerJ]

I wouldn't call what I wrote "crying" but whatever. Seems like you missed my point but you could clear this up by posting where Dinan claims using another set of springs will cause problems and refute these so-called claims. Again 5 months is not long enough to make a fair assessment for any set of springs IMO.

[J08M3]

Well I figured it was important to mention that it's only been 5 months, cause that's not long enough for any damage (if any ever does occur) to happen. But it's definitely long enough to see how they perform. There's been "white papers" produced by Dinan and posted on this site about their springs and claims. Search and you can probably find it. They definitely claim in there that you will be riding on your bumpstops unless you buy their new system with different bump stops and what not. I can tell you that is not an issue with Eibach springs. They also go on for paragraphs claiming how they perfected their springs to work perfectly with our suspension and infer very heavily that other companies don't. In my opinion the Eibach's work great with our setup. The drop is still fairly subtle and any negative effects it will have on the suspension are minimal at best. (If you were trying to drop an 1" or more than I would never recommend a spring change alone.) If you want a very small drop than Dinan is for you. But in my opinion you can get a good spring, with a bit more of a drop, and no need to worry about negative consequences for 1/4 of the price.

[jeff4598]

The Dinan springs are areasonable price but their setup requires 8 hours of labor because of the bumpstop change.

[Radiation Joe]

Originally Posted by jeff4598

The Dinan springs are areasonable price but their setup requires 8 hours of labor because of the bumpstop change.

The bumpstop change takes about 30 seconds per corner since the strut is already apart to replace the springs.

[Technic]

Originally Posted by jeff4598

The Dinan springs are areasonable price but their setup requires 8 hours of labor because of the bumpstop change.

The Dinan springs themselves are more than 3 times the price of the Eibachs.

This is simple to me: Dinan charges an insurance premium with their springs/installation. So if you are concerned about messing up your EDC system and still want a lowered stance with warranty coverage then Dinan is your only game in town.

That's it.

I'm Technic, installing Eibachs springs in all my cars since 1989, and I approve this message.

[SV Concepts III]

That's really well said, and quite funny I might add. Dinan is great if you are uber concerned about warranty issues. With that said, springs are a relatively benign upgrade and people have been doing it for years with H&R and Eibach, I don't see a reason other than warranty concerns to pay 3x for a set of springs. H&R and Eibach are well regarded for their spring setups and I think they are an equal if not better choice given their value.

[mPlasticDesign]

I went with Dinan, not because I was overly paranoid about any adverse effects on my car, but because I didn't want the handling dynamics to suffer. When you lower a car with springs alone, you will decrease travel as a result. I didn't want that in my 4door family 'sports' car. Dinan privided a 1/2 in drop on all four corners while increasing travel! Some of the added cost for Dinan springs is the bump stops, an 'insurance' premium as some have mentioned but most importantly Dinan spends more doing R&D than anybody else, so that a specific springs is designed for a specific car. I will pay the extra $450 dollars on my $60k car. It's worth it!

[Radiation Joe]

Originally Posted by ///Metak

I went with Dinan, not because I was overly paranoid about any adverse effects on my car, but because I didn't want the handling dynamics to suffer. When you lower a car with springs alone, you will decrease travel as a result. I didn't want that in my 4door family 'sports' car. Dinan privided a 1/2 in drop on all four corners while increasing travel! Some of the added cost for Dinan springs is the bump stops, an 'insurance' premium as some have mentioned but most importantly Dinan spends more doing R&D than anybody else, so that a specific springs is designed for a specific car. I will pay the extra $450 dollars on my $60k car. It's worth it!

Well said and my opinion as well.

I just bought a diesel Jetta. Eibachs with Bilstein sports are on the list of mods. I've run Eibach in the past on other cars and had them on my e46 in a coil-over set-up. They are great and I'll run them again; just not on my e90 M3.

[AMPowerJ]

Originally Posted by ///Metak

I went with Dinan, not because I was overly paranoid about any adverse effects on my car, but because I didn't want the handling dynamics to suffer. When you lower a car with springs alone, you will decrease travel as a result. I didn't want that in my 4door family 'sports' car. Dinan privided a 1/2 in drop on all four corners while increasing travel! Some of the added cost for Dinan springs is the bump stops, an 'insurance' premium as some have mentioned but most importantly Dinan spends more doing R&D than anybody else, so that a specific springs is designed for a specific car. I will pay the extra $450 dollars on my $60k car. It's worth it!

+1 Yep. I installed them myself so I didn't have to pay any labor.

[MMMorish]

Originally Posted by AMPowerJ

+1 Yep. I installed them myself so I didn't have to pay any labor.

But you voided your warranty with Dinan by installing them yourself. So now you have no warranty with Dinan or BMW.

I'm not hating, as I would go Dinan as well if I did a drop. I'm more concerned with long term damage to my car.

[J08M3]

It's a $624 difference for the cheapest setup of Dinan compared to Eibach

[mPlasticDesign]

Originally Posted by J08M3

It's a $624 difference for the cheapest setup of Dinan compared to Eibach

Maybe you missed the thread title..... Benefits of Dinan springs? How many benefits have you offered? NONE! Thanks for your help. My savings on the springs would have been just under $500 if I went with Eibach and that doesn't include the bump stops. If you can't help by offering any benefits why enter the thread? I mean you don't even own the suspension in quesstion, FFS! I don't go into threads about Eibach or any other brand to tell people they made the 'wrong' choice. It was the right choice for them. I guess I got money to burn, so let me burn it in peace!

[J08M3]

Originally Posted by ///Metak

Maybe you missed the thread title..... Benefits of Dinan springs? How many benefits have you offered? NONE! Thanks for your help. My savings on the springs would have been just under $500 if I went with Eibach and that doesn't include the bump stops. If you can't help by offering any benefits why enter the thread? I mean you don't even own the suspension in quesstion, FFS! I don't go into threads about Eibach or any other brand to tell people they made the 'wrong' choice. It was the right choice for them. I guess I got money to burn, so let me burn it in peace!

Read the very first sentence I posted. It was a benefit of Dinan springs. Also read where I posted if you want a very Subtle drop then Dinan is for you. I have listed two benefits of Dinan springs in this thread. I never said anyone made the wrong choice either. I just said I wouldn't spend the money on Dinan.

[Technic]

Originally Posted by ///Metak

Maybe you missed the thread title..... Benefits of Dinan springs? How many benefits have you offered? NONE! Thanks for your help. My savings on the springs would have been just under $500 if I went with Eibach and that doesn't include the bump stops. If you can't help by offering any benefits why enter the thread? I mean you don't even own the suspension in quesstion, FFS! I don't go into threads about Eibach or any other brand to tell people they made the 'wrong' choice. It was the right choice for them. I guess I got money to burn, so let me burn it in peace!

You cracked me up...

The roof, the roof... the roof is on fire!!! We don't need no water so let the mofo burn... in peace yo!!!

[mPlasticDesign]

Originally Posted by J08M3

Read the very first sentence I posted. It was a benefit of Dinan springs. Also read where I posted if you want a very Subtle drop then Dinan is for you. I have listed two benefits of Dinan springs in this thread. I never said anyone made the wrong choice either. I just said I wouldn't spend the money on Dinan.

Dude, the Eibachs offer a HUGE difference in drop over Dinan! (sarcasm) 3mm front and a whopping 1mm in the rear. Yeah, your listed benefits, a 'very' subtle drop with the Dinan, but yet you keep harping on the cost! It's my money and give it a rest already.

1st post

Originally Posted by J08M3

....I've been running Eibachs for about 5 months now and don't have any of the negative problems Dinan claims will happen if you don't buy their product for 4X the price.

Great! Your first post you decide to let us know how you got Eibachs and have no negative effects that Dinan claims...and the COST of DINAN!

2nd post

Originally Posted by J08M3

I don't hate Dinan at all, just wouldn't spend 4X the money for a set of springs....

Oh and look the COST again!

3rd post

Originally Posted by J08M3

...If you want a very small drop than Dinan is for you. But in my opinion you can get a good spring, with a bit more of a drop, and no need to worry about negative consequences for 1/4 of the price.

Now the Dinan has gone from subtle drop to 'very small', LOL. And here we have the COST again.

4th post

Originally Posted by J08M3

It's a $624 difference for the cheapest setup of Dinan compared to Eibach

HOLY COW! The Dinan COST $624 more than Eibach?!?!