Motor Trend Blog on 2011 1series

[asv]

Looks fishy to me.

http://wot.motortrend.com/6427786/we...way/index.html

[m7ammed]

Last year BMW released its smallest offering -- the redesigned BMW 1 Series coupe -- to American buyers. Although it might seem like a new model to us Yankees, it isn't in Europe, where a hatchback version is also available.

LOL Thats totally wrong, the hatch was available in Eirop and the rest of the world, but the coupe wasn't redesigned it was a new model even in Europe

[sunking420]

Front wheel drive????????? I was glad to trade that away with my 2004 Acura RSX-Type S.......Blasphemy....................

[esses]

I'm confused..

MT says BMW will release a 300hp "hardcore" 135 in 2011. So what is my 320hp 135? Softcore?

MT also says that it will be powered by "an impressive300-hp coming from a twin-turbo 2.2L inline-six" Last I checked my n54 is a twin-turbo 3.0L inline six.

Oh and MT says we can expect an M1? Pretty sure BMW already answered that question.. The Tii is in the works, but no M1.

Then MT lists the "full lineup of speculated Euro market 1 Series engines" without mentioning the n54.

Is this some sort of time vortex where MT is going back to 2007 and predicting the specs for the e82?

[jmunro]

looks like misinformation to me... i do believe they are developing a 4 cylinder turbo engine. other than that, i'm not sure what to believe.

[MastaMind]

Originally Posted by esses

MT says BMW will release a 300hp "hardcore" 135 in 2011. So what is my 320hp 135? Softcore?

Apparently, the E82 is the car equivalent of Cinemax porn.

[spudw]

MT's been smokin' the happy grass....

[Mark M]

I never follow MT or Car and Driver or those other rags.

The only one I put any trust in is Automobile Magazine. It seems much more factual and level. Not near as sensationalized as those other rags.

[gtaday51]

Did you read those posts too. There are advantages to bigger displacement. Smaller is only better to a point. And the 135i has that balance in check.

[Papethova]

Originally Posted by esses

I'm confused..

MT says BMW will release a 300hp "hardcore" 135 in 2011. So what is my 320hp 135? Softcore?

MT also says that it will be powered by "an impressive300-hp coming from a twin-turbo 2.2L inline-six" Last I checked my n54 is a twin-turbo 3.0L inline six.

Oh and MT says we can expect an M1? Pretty sure BMW already answered that question.. The Tii is in the works, but no M1.

Then MT lists the "full lineup of speculated Euro market 1 Series engines" without mentioning the n54.

Is this some sort of time vortex where MT is going back to 2007 and predicting the specs for the e82?

A 2.2 outputting 300HP is better than the 3.0, think lighter with the same power. F=MA keep the F the same, decrease M and you get an increase in A. Im guessing a hardcore version takes advantage of weight savings in other areas too.

[aesthetect]

thats the most detail ive heard about next gen engine sizes, suspiciously reported by some one that thinks there will be a M..

[123d]

Article is 95% inline with what the current rumors are saying. Some of you who this it is fishy may be suprised.

[boostin]

i'd wait for something more official. it's mentioning engine options in Europe, but that doesn't mean we'll see those same engines. and to those who are confused by "300hp hardcore model", they probably mean the Tii, because isn't the Tii supposed to have the same (or very similar) power as the 135i, but a decreased curb weight and better suspension, thus making it more "hardcore" than a 135i? Think of the 135i as the E46 M3, and the Tii as the E46 M3 CSL.

[amdmaxx]

This article is weird on many levels.
If updated n54 will be used, car will be around 330-350hp, not 300 for hardcore model.
2.2 inline 6 - no way. BMW philosophy always been the balance, which is displacement = 1/2*(number of cylinders). and I never seen a modern design with a really small displacement inline6 (2.2????)
I really do hope for 2.5 twin Turbo inline4, aka STi for 125 model and updated n54 for the supersport model.

[boostin]

Originally Posted by amdmaxx

If updated n54 will be used, car will be around 33-350hp, not 300 for hardcore model.

i wouldn't be so sure about 330-350bhp. the sti has gone from 300bhp (2004), down to 293bhp in 2007, then up to 305bhp for 2008. so i wouldn't expect anything over 320bhp if there even IS an updated N54.

[amdmaxx]

STi getting Direct Injection within a year or two - think more HP, better fuel economy and less lag.
Updated N54 is already in new 7.. Z370 has 330hp and most family sedans are now over 300..
I say bring 135 Supersport with 340hp TT inline 6.
Save 2.2 tt 4 for 130 model..

Originally Posted by boostin

i wouldn't be so sure about 330-350bhp. the sti has gone from 300bhp (2004), down to 293bhp in 2007, then up to 305bhp for 2008. so i wouldn't expect anything over 320bhp if there even IS an updated N54.