Anybody want to convert theirs to No Sunroof?

scottn2retro · 07-08-2008, 11:41 PM

Anybody in SoCal (I guess it could be anywhere in the US) wished their 1 series did not have the sunroof? We were going to convert ours (I even have the non-sunroof headliner), but BMW Club Racing Rules wouldn't allow it for stock class.

FibreOptix · 07-08-2008, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by scottn2retro

Anybody in SoCal (I guess it could be anywhere in the US) wished their 1 series did not have the sunroof? We were going to convert ours (I even have the non-sunroof headliner), but BMW Club Racing Rules wouldn't allow it for stock class.

SURE, and you can can too...:biggrin:

flyinggonzo · 07-09-2008, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by scottn2retro

Anybody in SoCal (I guess it could be anywhere in the US) wished their 1 series did not have the sunroof? We were going to convert ours (I even have the non-sunroof headliner), but BMW Club Racing Rules wouldn't allow it for stock class.

would you be allowed to buy the car in Canada and ship it to the US? The currency would be against you of course, but you would be able to get a OEM car this way.

ptack · 07-09-2008, 02:15 PM

I never use my current sun roof. It's just too noisy. I wish I could have saved a few hundred bucks by deleting it.

Red135 · 07-09-2008, 02:28 PM

I never use mine either. It is just too damn hot here.

Robert · 07-09-2008, 02:38 PM

Depends on the conversion. Is it going to be a one piece CF roof like the M3 or is it more like replacing the glass and take out the motor? I would prefer the entire roof and a new roof lining.

InsaneSkippy · 07-09-2008, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by robert

I would prefer the entire roof and a new roof lining.

+1000

If I opt to delete my sunroof I'd wait for an entire roof. That way it would be seemless. If you can't see through the sunroof, I see no reason to have the odd rectangle on the roof.

Year1of1 · 07-09-2008, 03:59 PM

i love the sunroof, couldn't drive a car without one.

scottn2retro · 07-09-2008, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by InsaneSkippy

+1000

If I opt to delete my sunroof I'd wait for an entire roof. That way it would be seemless. If you can't see through the sunroof, I see no reason to have the odd rectangle on the roof.

That's what we would have done - basically remove the whole sunroof, headliner and sunroof roof skin and replace with metal roof skin, hardtop roof bow (integrated into the roof skin on sunroof model) and new headliner. We essentially did the same thing on our M3 race car, but without doing the headliner.

It's a bit of work:
- remove windshield and rear window
- remove sunroof and headliner
- drill out all the welds holding on the sunroof top
- pry, rip off the sunroof top (it will not be salvagable)
- pre-paint the new hardtop roof skin and roof bow
- weld in the hardtop roof bow
- install hardtop on car (can be bonded on)
- install new headliner
- re-install windshield and rear window

I even had SSF find the part numbers for me (I only got the headliner so far because we changed how we were going to go about deleting the sunroof from the method below - which we ended up not doing either). So I'll find the e-mails and list those.

Now, if you went with whole CF roof, you could delete the painting step above (leave the roof bow in primer black)

x97Melbourne · 07-09-2008, 04:54 PM

i guess you guys are really tall and thats why you want to delete the roof???....or you want to save weight for racing???
i live in florida (where its hot) and i have the convertible, i love to drive around when its hot with the top down....if i had the coupe id have the sunroof open literally all the time --- minus rain
am i missing something -- why do you guys not like the sunroof??

InsaneSkippy · 07-09-2008, 05:03 PM

Most people want to remove it for the weight savings. Since the weight is at such a high point in the car, it's worse. I had a sunroof in my last car, and it only got opened once a month probably. The problem with Florida is it rains every damn day lol

This isn't a mod I would do until my car is out of warranty though. If I even do it, I'd have to go with CF painted to match the car.

PA135i · 07-09-2008, 06:56 PM

I ordered my 325 coupe without a sunroof to save money. Previous to that I had a GTI-VR6 with the sunroof standard.
I have gotten used to not having one, but I'm glad to have one now. In PA we have all four seasons and a nice fall day with the roof open is nice.

Maybe we should have a poll on this.
Who would not want the sunroof...

mastermav · 07-10-2008, 01:01 PM

I like sunroof, because it makes the car brighter inside.

sethchan · 07-10-2008, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Year1of1

i love the sunroof, couldn't drive a car without one.

Me neither. Open it up after the car's been parked in the sun and the hot air just whooshes up and out of there. As for noise, I like hearing the engine better.

F0Bman · 07-13-2008, 06:53 PM

That would be relly cool, just a bit concerned about my safety. If it was dry carbon I would consider.

scottn2retro · 07-13-2008, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by F0Bman

That would be relly cool, just a bit concerned about my safety.

Even if you used a BMW metal hardtop roof skin?

sunking420 · 07-14-2008, 07:15 AM

I live in Northeast-Central Florida, and use the moonroof everyday. The first real cold front of the year(usually early November) should be a state holiday. I crank it open, open my driver's side window and run the heat if it gets too cold. I'm not a convertible type person, so this is the next best thing...Wouldn't want to see BMW get rid of it, ever...........

turner23 · 07-15-2008, 09:50 PM

Personally, I kick myself every beautiful sunny day for not buying a car with a sunroof, so I was thrilled to find the 1 has a sunroof STANDARD. I'll never buy another car without one. For those who don't want the sunroof, unfortunately even as a standard item, you are paying for it indirectly. But why trash up the roof and headliner when you can simply close the sunshade and be done with it?

Cheers!
Nick

wu2x · 07-15-2008, 10:08 PM

Sunroof delete is to make the car lighter and structurally more sound I believe.

If I could, I would of gotten no sunroof. I hardly use it, even in California where it's a clear day 90% of the time, and would of liked the car a little bit lighter. Closing the sunroof would not solve that issue.

Slay0r · 07-16-2008, 12:15 AM

only way i would want it w/o the sunroof is if it had the CF roof like the M3

i only open the shade or open the sunroof if it is a low-light or no-light weather conditions outside...otherwise i keep the shade as well as the sunroof closed

ichiban · 07-16-2008, 01:04 AM

A CF Roof skin would be pretty awesome. It would probably be around 100 lbs of weight saved just from the roof.

scottn2retro · 07-16-2008, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ichiban

A CF Roof skin would be pretty awesome. It would probably be around 100 lbs of weight saved just from the roof.

There is not a huge amount of difference between a metal hardtop and a CF roof top weight-wise.

The big gain comes from deleting the sunroof and changing out the sunroof roof skin (which has more layers for framing around the sunroof).

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ptack Brigadier General 269 Rep 4,470 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: May 2008 Location: NJ iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 135i [6.50]	I never use my current sun roof. It's just too noisy. I wish I could have saved a few hundred bucks by deleting it. __________________ 135i, SGM, Coral, Sport Package, Auto, Premium Hifi, USB/ipod, Apex EC-7s, PPK Stage II
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Robert Major General 417 Rep 6,968 Posts Drives: 135i -> is350 -> Tesla M3 perf Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Socal iTrader: (1)	Depends on the conversion. Is it going to be a one piece CF roof like the M3 or is it more like replacing the glass and take out the motor? I would prefer the entire roof and a new roof lining. __________________ - There's nothing in my pocket other than knives and lint
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Year1of1 Lieutenant 32 Rep 573 Posts Drives: 2020 X5 M50 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (0)	i love the sunroof, couldn't drive a car without one. __________________ 2008 128 - retired 2010 X5 - retired 2013 535 - retired 2015 X1 - retired 2020 X5 M50i - On Order
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x97Melbourne Molar World 47 Rep 916 Posts Drives: 2016 435i Coupe Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Florida iTrader: (0)	i guess you guys are really tall and thats why you want to delete the roof???....or you want to save weight for racing??? i live in florida (where its hot) and i have the convertible, i love to drive around when its hot with the top down....if i had the coupe id have the sunroof open literally all the time --- minus rain am i missing something -- why do you guys not like the sunroof??
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InsaneSkippy Lieutenant Colonel 79 Rep 1,597 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Florida iTrader: (1)	Most people want to remove it for the weight savings. Since the weight is at such a high point in the car, it's worse. I had a sunroof in my last car, and it only got opened once a month probably. The problem with Florida is it rains every damn day lol This isn't a mod I would do until my car is out of warranty though. If I even do it, I'd have to go with CF painted to match the car. __________________
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PA135i Brigadier General 968 Rep 3,323 Posts Drives: 08 135i 08 CR-V Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Pennsylvania iTrader: (0)	I ordered my 325 coupe without a sunroof to save money. Previous to that I had a GTI-VR6 with the sunroof standard. I have gotten used to not having one, but I'm glad to have one now. In PA we have all four seasons and a nice fall day with the roof open is nice. Maybe we should have a poll on this. Who would not want the sunroof...
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mastermav Second Lieutenant 75 Rep 214 Posts Drives: '19 F82 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NorCal iTrader: (0)	I like sunroof, because it makes the car brighter inside.
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sunking420 First Lieutenant 12 Rep 334 Posts Drives: '08 SGM 135i Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Flagler Beach, Florida iTrader: (0)	I live in Northeast-Central Florida, and use the moonroof everyday. The first real cold front of the year(usually early November) should be a state holiday. I crank it open, open my driver's side window and run the heat if it gets too cold. I'm not a convertible type person, so this is the next best thing...Wouldn't want to see BMW get rid of it, ever...........
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turner23 Second Lieutenant 19 Rep 218 Posts Drives: Join Date: Jun 2008 iTrader: (0)	no sr? Personally, I kick myself every beautiful sunny day for not buying a car with a sunroof, so I was thrilled to find the 1 has a sunroof STANDARD. I'll never buy another car without one. For those who don't want the sunroof, unfortunately even as a standard item, you are paying for it indirectly. But why trash up the roof and headliner when you can simply close the sunshade and be done with it? Cheers! Nick
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wu2x Captain 36 Rep 717 Posts Drives: 2011 E90 M3 6MT Join Date: May 2008 Location: NorCal iTrader: (0)	Sunroof delete is to make the car lighter and structurally more sound I believe. If I could, I would of gotten no sunroof. I hardly use it, even in California where it's a clear day 90% of the time, and would of liked the car a little bit lighter. Closing the sunroof would not solve that issue.
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Slay0r First Lieutenant 19 Rep 337 Posts Drives: 08 135i, 08 E92 ///M,13 535i Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Louisiana iTrader: (0)	only way i would want it w/o the sunroof is if it had the CF roof like the M3 i only open the shade or open the sunroof if it is a low-light or no-light weather conditions outside...otherwise i keep the shade as well as the sunroof closed
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ichiban Colonel 94 Rep 2,012 Posts Drives: 08 135i Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bay Area, CA iTrader: (2)	A CF Roof skin would be pretty awesome. It would probably be around 100 lbs of weight saved just from the roof.
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