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      08-02-2022, 01:10 AM   #1
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Why does a 2020 M2 need new spark plugs at 13k miles?

I admit I am lost. Since the car is still under the free maintenance plan, I went with it. However I definitely will not change the plugs at the next planned interval. Can someone justify why a car with only 13k miles needs new plugs? Thanks.
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Answered time and time again. Service intervals are mileage OR annual. Whichever comes first.
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I admit I am lost. Since the car is still under the free maintenance plan, I went with it. However I definitely will not change the plugs at the next planned interval. Can someone justify why a car with only 13k miles needs new plugs? Thanks.
Had mine done with less than 12K on the clock.
"It's triggered by number of oil changes."
I think it's the fifth?

For any new owners - drive the car and get it in.
Mine was out of maintenance plan.
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I admit I am lost. Since the car is still under the free maintenance plan, I went with it. However I definitely will not change the plugs at the next planned interval. Can someone justify why a car with only 13k miles needs new plugs? Thanks.
My service advisor did mine early so that it could be free because had they stuck to the exact interval my car would have been out of the maintenance warranty. The SA's have to get this approved, but BMW approves it every time because they are wanting the customers to be "taken care of" and also because it puts the maintenance of such a car in the mind of the customer.

The plug interval is 30K for an unmodded car, and 20K for a modded car.

All of this info is direct from my SA who races his 2016 regularly.
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Just had mine done at 22k miles with my last free oil change.
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Just had mine done at 22k miles with my last free oil change.
same here at 25k
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Thanks guys. From now on, I will change the plugs every 25-30k miles, regardless of what BMW wants. It just seems like a money grab to change it so frequently, after the free maintenance plan ends.
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My service advisor did mine early so that it could be free because had they stuck to the exact interval my car would have been out of the maintenance warranty. The SA's have to get this approved, but BMW approves it every time because they are wanting the customers to be "taken care of" and also because it puts the maintenance of such a car in the mind of the customer.

The plug interval is 30K for an unmodded car, and 20K for a modded car.

All of this info is direct from my SA who races his 2016 regularly.
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Just had mine done at 22k miles with my last free oil change.
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same here at 25k
Good to know guys. I'll be around 23k miles for my 3 years service later this year, and will be sure to ask. What else does that last free service include?
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Thanks guys. From now on, I will change the plugs every 25-30k miles, regardless of what BMW wants. It just seems like a money grab to change it so frequently, after the free maintenance plan ends.
Make SURE to buy them from FCP Euro. You'll pay a little more, but you'll be able to send them back for a full refund each time you change them!

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Good to know guys. I'll be around 23k miles for my 3 years service later this year, and will be sure to ask. What else does that last free service include?
Not much else of note, but you can take this opportunity to ask them to adjust your parking brake for free. Once your maintenance warranty runs out they won't do it.
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Not much else of note, but you can take this opportunity to ask them to adjust your parking brake for free. Once your maintenance warranty runs out they won't do it.
Yes, for sure!
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The spark plugs is about $600- $1000 so thats a major one before the warranty expires and they won’t tell ya so gotta be on top of it. I remembered right before my warranty was up, literally days so took it there for it. Tried to get a free oil change but I done it 3k miles ago and they only give you free changes every 10.
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Answered time and time again. Service intervals are mileage OR annual. Whichever comes first.


There's NO reason that spark plugs need to be replaced on an "annual" (or any other length of time) schedule. That's nuts.

What's going on here is that dealers are paid to replace them during the free 3/36 maintenance period, so a ton of them seem to do it as soon as BMW will allow it, which for some stupid reason is way too soon.

The interval for plugs is 30k and zero reason to replace them before that. I saw one dealer do them at 4k. Great. So when the guy hits 34k will they replace them free again? I doubt it, 3/36 Ultimate Care probably only covers one replacement.
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Answered time and time again. Service intervals are mileage OR annual. Whichever comes first.
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There's NO reason that spark plugs need to be replaced on an "annual" (or any other length of time) schedule. That's nuts.

What's going on here is that dealers are paid to replace them during the free 3/36 maintenance period, so a ton of them seem to do it as soon as BMW will allow it, which for some stupid reason is way too soon.

The interval for plugs is 30k and zero reason to replace them before that. I saw one dealer do them at 4k. Great. So when the guy hits 34k will they replace them free again? I doubt it, 3/36 Ultimate Care probably only covers one replacement.
I never said it was required smh. It's just what BMW's included maintenance plan goes by just like you are saying
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Mine was done @ 5k, I'm wearing multiple hats at work, twin girls BOTH married month(s) apart and multiple big trips past couple years

No time to drive my fun car past couple years…

if it's no charge Maintence why not?!? On my dime I will take it to an independent shop for real world Maintence
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Mine was done @ 5k...
I would have asked for the old plugs so I could reuse them for 25K miles.
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Mine was done @ 5k...
I would have asked for the old plugs so I could reuse them for 25K miles.
If I remember?!? At the time my SA told me they had an issue with (these plugs) unusual but no worries because it's no fee

Or more likely they pinched BMW for fees, wasting perfectly good plugs
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There's NO reason that spark plugs need to be replaced on an "annual" (or any other length of time) schedule. That's nuts.

What's going on here is that dealers are paid to replace them during the free 3/36 maintenance period, so a ton of them seem to do it as soon as BMW will allow it, which for some stupid reason is way too soon.

The interval for plugs is 30k and zero reason to replace them before that. I saw one dealer do them at 4k. Great. So when the guy hits 34k will they replace them free again? I doubt it, 3/36 Ultimate Care probably only covers one replacement.
Yeah, I've never heard of replacing spark plugs under 30K. Seems stupid to do it way too early and is a waste of time, parts, and effort.
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2020 M2C.

3 years service program ends and I went to dealer 30 days before end.

1. Oil Change
2. 2 Air Filters
3. Brake Fluid
4. Spark Plugs

All no charge.

I have 14,000 miles (3 years). All regular driving but NO track.
Looks all I need for future maintenance is to change oil at one year intervals.
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I don't understand why people get so upset at free service? Yeah they don't need replaced but your car is already going in for service so what's the harm?
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I don't understand why people get so upset at free service? Yeah they don't need replaced but your car is already going in for service so what's the harm?
Because humans perform the service. Not that it's hard, but dealerships were hit or miss before COVID. Now, since COVID arrived, service quality in everything seems like it took a hit. It's just plugs, but I'd still rather not have some newbie tech screw something up for a service I didn't need.
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I don't understand why people get so upset at free service? Yeah they don't need replaced but your car is already going in for service so what's the harm?
Because they aren't DUE to be replaced until 30k, and it's an expensive job when you have to pay for it yourself later. I'd be willing to bet (have not confirmed, but I will with my SA) that they only cover ONE plug change on the free 3/36 maintenance (because the "real" interval is 30k). Dealers are doing it early simply because they can, not wanting to risk you taking the lucrative job elsewhere later on.

So if you only get one freebie, and they do it at 5k, then you're due again at 35k, and it's coming out of your pocket. THEN you'll understand why you don't want it done at 5k. Or early at all. Let them pay at 30k, and you won't be out of pocket for another change till 60k. Make sense now?
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