Snow with PSS m4

svr21 · 02-01-2019, 11:15 AM

Looks like it's going to snow here in Vancouver, not going to buy a new set of tires for the five snow days. Any tips for snow driving? Thanks guys!

pumped97 · 02-01-2019, 11:20 AM

Don't do it, ICBC won't cover you

svr21 · 02-01-2019, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by pumped97

Don't do it, ICBC won't cover you

On their website it says: Driving without winter tires does not void your ICBC insurance policy if you have a claim.
Have you or know someone who has a issue to file a claim for driving in snow with summer tires? Just wondering, thanks!

mrkmtchll · 02-01-2019, 11:35 AM

+1 Don't do it. I can't even get out of my driveway without sliding everywhere. It stays in the garage for 3 months here in Germany.

White340 · 02-01-2019, 11:38 AM

Forget about the insurance claim. Your risking your and other people's lives by driving with summer tires on in the snow on a rear wheel drive car. I know it sounds parental but really it's not worth the risk. Take an Uber or rent a cheap car.

AndroidAAA · 02-01-2019, 11:52 AM

You need to remember that Summer tires under perform in temperatures under 7 degrees celcius. I would not be taking a high performance RWD vehicle in below 0 degree temperature with summer tires on.

I will be parking my f80 M3 next week and taking the good old 1998 4runner. If it rains and freezes its going to be a gong show.

svr21 · 02-01-2019, 12:01 PM

Guess I will just have to drive my sienna for a while :/

evoix · 02-01-2019, 12:11 PM

Dont do it. Had a hard time driving with a coating on the road. Car would just spin and slide out after getting it moving. I bought a set of winter tires and it is like night and day. Cannot believe how bad PSS are in snow.

minn19 · 02-01-2019, 12:25 PM

I got caught in one late snow storm on PSS and it was like I don’t have brakes or AWD in my old 335 xDrive.

bobblehead · 02-01-2019, 12:58 PM

Pauldunlop13 · 02-01-2019, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AndroidAAA

You need to remember that Summer tires under perform in temperatures under 7 degrees celcius. I would not be taking a high performance RWD vehicle in below 0 degree temperature with summer tires on.
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Agreed. Those temps are the main problem day to day with summer tire rubber compound. The snow is justthe ‘icing’ on top...

EvoFire · 02-01-2019, 03:05 PM

Don't. Don't put other ppl at risk. Driving in the snow is already a frustrating enough experience, don't add to the fire.

And ICBC, they may not explicitly state they will deny coverage, but chances are high they won't cover you. They will deny you if you got in an accident in the rain due to bad/bald tires, what do you think summer tires will let them do?

M4T.O. · 02-01-2019, 09:39 PM

I did it here in Toronto early in the season and as long as it's just slushy your good ! But if it packs down your screwed! Completely...I have 4 snows on now and all is good! Hey

Lifted07Duramax · 02-01-2019, 10:19 PM

How does a M3 do in snow WITH good snow tires

itrocks4u · 02-02-2019, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Lifted07Duramax

How does a M3 do in snow WITH good snow tires

Quite well. But slips on every turn. Summer tires is a recipe for disaster. Dont do it.

M4lifestyle · 02-02-2019, 08:34 PM

I grew up in montreal and started to drive in snow since 16.. but I still wouldnt drive a car with summer tires in snow. Rwd or not is not even the point. The problem is the car can never stop properly. Its like skating. If the car is on a down hill, i can almost guarantee u will hit someone. So yea, hell no for u buddy

Maitre_Absolut · 02-03-2019, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Lifted07Duramax

How does a M3 do in snow WITH good snow tires

I parked my CS last week after 30cm in Toronto. On main roads its fine but with no snow removal on side roads they turn into one ways and you can get into tricky situations real quick, rather not risk it. Took it out today for the first time since Monday, missed it.

sliu070 · 02-07-2019, 01:03 PM

I've been daily driving a M4 this winter in Ottawa. The first week while I was waiting for my winter tires to arrive I couldn't make it up my drive way with a bit of snow.
With winter tires though, it honestly isn't that bad. Like a previous guy said, it will slip in turns, but is generally and totally doable.

Dleenycm3f80 · 02-18-2019, 11:28 AM

what about all season tires for the winter?

Pauldunlop13 · 02-18-2019, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Dleenycm3f80

what about all season tires for the winter?

If you are going to have 2 sets of tires, buy the right ones for each (main) season
Winters and Summers

Dont buy a compromised tire for the winter.

It is more about the rubber and the outside temperature. Snow is a secondary factor.

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White340 Lieutenant Colonel 1393 Rep 1,986 Posts Drives: 2018 M3 Comp / 2022 X5 45e Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: NYC iTrader: (3)	Forget about the insurance claim. Your risking your and other people's lives by driving with summer tires on in the snow on a rear wheel drive car. I know it sounds parental but really it's not worth the risk. Take an Uber or rent a cheap car. __________________ 2022 X5 45e : AW/Tartufo 2018 M3 Competition : AW/SO 2016 340i xDrive : AW/CR (sold)
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evoix Major 441 Rep 1,347 Posts Drives: X3m Evo IX Evo X Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: NY iTrader: (0)	Dont do it. Had a hard time driving with a coating on the road. Car would just spin and slide out after getting it moving. I bought a set of winter tires and it is like night and day. Cannot believe how bad PSS are in snow.
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EvoFire Second Lieutenant 99 Rep 239 Posts Drives: None Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Vancouver iTrader: (0)	Don't. Don't put other ppl at risk. Driving in the snow is already a frustrating enough experience, don't add to the fire. And ICBC, they may not explicitly state they will deny coverage, but chances are high they won't cover you. They will deny you if you got in an accident in the rain due to bad/bald tires, what do you think summer tires will let them do?
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M4T.O. Enlisted Member 16 Rep 46 Posts Drives: 2016 M5 Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	I did it here in Toronto early in the season and as long as it's just slushy your good ! But if it packs down your screwed! Completely...I have 4 snows on now and all is good! Hey
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M4lifestyle Private 11 Rep 76 Posts Drives: M4 Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Richmond Hill iTrader: (0)	I grew up in montreal and started to drive in snow since 16.. but I still wouldnt drive a car with summer tires in snow. Rwd or not is not even the point. The problem is the car can never stop properly. Its like skating. If the car is on a down hill, i can almost guarantee u will hit someone. So yea, hell no for u buddy
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Dleenycm3f80 New Member 5 Rep 26 Posts Drives: f80m3 Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: NYC iTrader: (0)	what about all season tires for the winter?
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