How much was your "Doc Fee" ?

Atomicchicken · 07-03-2018, 06:29 PM

Hello,

So I haven't been in the market for a new car in a long time and after looking over the details and fees I noticed one called doc fee. I understand that it's a fee the dealers charge for the paperwork labor and that in some states it's capped but in most states it's not capped. I've also read that it's sometimes negotiable but I was just wondering how much you all paid in doc fees and which state or city you are from? There seems to be a wide range from $75-$2000?!!?

Just wanted to get a feel for what you all paid.

Also how much did you pay for registration fee?

Thanks

Vitacura · 07-03-2018, 07:48 PM

Local dealers to me in FL have a 'pre-delivery service fee' of $799. Doc fee I have paid from my last few deals have been $80 from CA dealers.

The doc/delivery fee you may find pre-printed on the contracts as they are not negotiable. (If one customer gets it waived or discounted, then the dealership sets themselves up for legal trouble as they would have to give the discount to everyone.)
What one can do is request additional discount off sales price taking the doc/delivery fee into account.

MavRick · 07-03-2018, 09:49 PM

$599 from the dealer in Atlanta that we bought from. $699 from the others. smh...

Atomicchicken · 07-04-2018, 01:25 AM

Thanks for your input. Wow, I never realized how expensive the doc fees could get. I guess its because up until now I have always bought cars in California and I've always dreaded and felt a huge sting with sales taxes but never even noticed doc fees. I guess its because doc fees are capped in California at $80 which wasn't even on my radar but I recently bought a car in Hawaii and I was soooo looking forward to the much lower sales tax and when I checked to relish the lower sales tax figure I noticed the doc fee as it was at $395. At first I didn't think much of it but after doing a little bit of research on the net I found out that the fee greatly varies and most states do not cap it. I guess its not much considering the total cost of the car and its not on a sliding scale but its still a cost that I wasn't really thinking about. I am sure we all are always looking for ways to try to save as much money as we can and ever penny counts right?

Please keep them coming as I would like to hear more from others how much they paid for doc fees.

HPIA4v2 · 07-04-2018, 09:39 AM

10.3% sales tax and $150 doc fee here

FL dealers take the cake for doc fee, around $799

MicaCeli · 07-04-2018, 10:34 AM

299 for dealer
plus 260 for title service (MVA)
plus 6% tax

TXSoxFan · 07-04-2018, 02:36 PM

Back in CT on my 4 BMW deals (from 2 different dealers) doc fees were around $400 or so. Now in CA they are capped at $80. As others mention it really is pure profit for the dealer, so that is to be taken into account when making your offer.

Donger Kim · 07-04-2018, 06:15 PM

$50

Atomicchicken · 07-05-2018, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Donger Kim

$50

$50!?!!?!?!?!!!!!!!

Did you negotiate for that price? According to your profile it seems you are from Seattle, Washington. If that's the case then the average doc fee in WA is $150 which in itself is not bad compared to the national average but $50!?!!?!?! Damn.......that is a sweet deal...hehe.

HPIA4v2 · 07-05-2018, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Atomicchicken

$50!?!!?!?!?!!!!!!!

Did you negotiate for that price? According to your profile it seems you are from Seattle, Washington. If that's the case then the average doc fee in WA is $150 which in itself is not bad compared to the national average but $50!?!!?!?! Damn.......that is a sweet deal...hehe.

This doc fee, and other fees are a way for dealer to muddy the deals. it's a shell game, so keep your eyes open.
At the end when you think you have the upper hand, dealer says no deal.
Just like casino, the house always wins

BMV///M3 · 07-05-2018, 09:22 AM

80 Dollars, watch out for this on purchases.

firedown31 · 07-05-2018, 10:00 AM

$172 from the local dealer back in 2015 when I got my M3.

MKParris · 07-05-2018, 10:57 AM

0

Hachima · 07-05-2018, 09:24 PM

150 in Texas

jlhymb · 07-06-2018, 12:27 AM

Quoted $499 in Arizona

Atomicchicken · 07-06-2018, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by MKParris

0

Wow, I guess you can't go any lower than that. How did you pull that off?

HPIA4v2 · 07-06-2018, 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atomicchicken

Wow, I guess you can't go any lower than that. How did you pull that off?

by paying MSRP

kosd · 07-06-2018, 08:50 AM

I paid over $900 at Global Imports in Atlanta. Never again. You can google the avg doc fee in your state. In GA, it’s around 500. I fell for the line that they all charge the same.

Another thing to watch out for is the registration fees. They had over $500 on there for that when it only costs $125 at the dmv. They had a few other fees on there that I had them take off but I definitely screwed up on the doc fee.

Atomicchicken · 07-06-2018, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kosd

I paid over $900 at Global Imports in Atlanta. Never again. You can google the avg doc fee in your state. In GA, it’s around 500. I fell for the line that they all charge the same.

Another thing to watch out for is the registration fees. They had over $500 on there for that when it only costs $125 at the dmv. They had a few other fees on there that I had them take off but I definitely screwed up on the doc fee.

kosd, that was another point I was wondering. My CA quoted me registration fee and safety check in Hawaii is about $400. I did check it out and the safety check is about $20 and it seems that registration in Hawaii is based on weight of the vehicle?!?!?! But I was thinking that dealers can’t really add frivolous charges and mess around with the registration and DMV fees.....can they?!?!?

What kind of fees did they add to your registration fee kosd?

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Vitacura Ich Liebe mein BMW 413 Rep 887 Posts Drives: 21 M240i CV, 23 X1 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Tampa Bay iTrader: (0)	Local dealers to me in FL have a 'pre-delivery service fee' of $799. Doc fee I have paid from my last few deals have been $80 from CA dealers. The doc/delivery fee you may find pre-printed on the contracts as they are not negotiable. (If one customer gets it waived or discounted, then the dealership sets themselves up for legal trouble as they would have to give the discount to everyone.) What one can do is request additional discount off sales price taking the doc/delivery fee into account.
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MavRick Captain 688 Rep 750 Posts Drives: My Wife's M Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	$599 from the dealer in Atlanta that we bought from. $699 from the others. smh...
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Atomicchicken Private 32 Rep 87 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	Thanks for your input. Wow, I never realized how expensive the doc fees could get. I guess its because up until now I have always bought cars in California and I've always dreaded and felt a huge sting with sales taxes but never even noticed doc fees. I guess its because doc fees are capped in California at $80 which wasn't even on my radar but I recently bought a car in Hawaii and I was soooo looking forward to the much lower sales tax and when I checked to relish the lower sales tax figure I noticed the doc fee as it was at $395. At first I didn't think much of it but after doing a little bit of research on the net I found out that the fee greatly varies and most states do not cap it. I guess its not much considering the total cost of the car and its not on a sliding scale but its still a cost that I wasn't really thinking about. I am sure we all are always looking for ways to try to save as much money as we can and ever penny counts right? Please keep them coming as I would like to hear more from others how much they paid for doc fees.
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HPIA4v2 Major 254 Rep 1,391 Posts Drives: F80, F86 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Washington iTrader: (3)	10.3% sales tax and $150 doc fee here FL dealers take the cake for doc fee, around $799
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TXSoxFan Second Lieutenant 54 Rep 244 Posts Drives: 2018 M3 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Austin, TX iTrader: (0)	Back in CT on my 4 BMW deals (from 2 different dealers) doc fees were around $400 or so. Now in CA they are capped at $80. As others mention it really is pure profit for the dealer, so that is to be taken into account when making your offer.
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Donger Kim Captain 205 Rep 683 Posts Drives: MY16 M3 Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Seattle iTrader: (0)	$50
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firedown31 Major 913 Rep 1,427 Posts Drives: '16 AW M3 Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: NH iTrader: (0)	$172 from the local dealer back in 2015 when I got my M3.
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kosd Private First Class 37 Rep 180 Posts Drives: 2015 YMB M4 Convertible Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: naperville, il, usa iTrader: (0)	I paid over $900 at Global Imports in Atlanta. Never again. You can google the avg doc fee in your state. In GA, it’s around 500. I fell for the line that they all charge the same. Another thing to watch out for is the registration fees. They had over $500 on there for that when it only costs $125 at the dmv. They had a few other fees on there that I had them take off but I definitely screwed up on the doc fee.
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