The car needs 20s

[Audio Fan]

After having an F82 with 19s for almost three years and having my current ZCP F83 with 666 20s, I really feel that the car looks significantly better with 20s. I'm not talking specifically about the 666s, which I've grown to really like and appreciate, but just 20" wheels in general. The 20s appear to better visually fill the wheel openings and tend to make the car look smaller (even though the overall tire diameter is really unchanged). Just MHO, but now when I see a car with 19s, the wheels look small - too small. I have not noticed any degradation in ride quality, but I did transition to the F83, which I've been thoroughly enjoying. On a side note, the convertible appears shorter due to the roof line when the top is up.

[MikeATL]

Agreed, 20's look great on the F8x. Love them on my M3 ZCP, and also made a huge difference on my 435 w/aftermarket wheels.

[itrocks4u]

I have 20" 666 for summer. For winters I run 19" VFF103. I love both sets and happy with either 19s or 20s

[Super Spartan]

Wow!! Simply stunning man! I agree with you, after seeing the 666M 20s in person, I fell in love with them and so does every person who sees my car, the first thing they say is "nice rims!"

Also I feel the car is more stable when cornering and the wider wheels give it a better stance!

Here's mine! vettes FTW!

[dovaro]

Originally Posted by Audio Fan

After having an F82 with 19s for almost three years and having my current ZCP F83 with 666 20s, I really feel that the car looks significantly better with 20s. I'm not talking specifically about the 666s, which I've grown to really like and appreciate, but just 20" wheels in general. The 20s appear to better visually fill the wheel openings and tend to make the car look smaller (even though the overall tire diameter is really unchanged). Just MHO, but now when I see a car with 19s, the wheels look small - too small. I have not noticed any degradation in ride quality, but I did transition to the F83, which I've been thoroughly enjoying. On a side note, the convertible appears shorter due to the roof line when the top is up.

Great looking car. But I am abut surprised that the the 20" wheels gives the same ride comfort . How about the road noise is it the same as 19"

[Super Spartan]

Originally Posted by dovaro

Great looking car. But I am abut surprised that the the 20" wheels gives the same ride comfort . How about the road noise is it the same as 19"

There is absolutely no difference, to me at least.

also, with the 19s, I had Continental, now with the 20s they are Michelin PSS which are superior IMO

[Sinnakle]

I think it's preference/purpose. I haven't had my M4 long but on most cars removing wheel gap by lowering makes them look better if the stock wheels aren't terrible undersized.

Generally stock size or 1 inch bigger than stock for show wheels and stock or lower for track setups in every car community I've been apart of.

Personally I'll be going 19's or 20's probably 20's I think :

[dovaro]

Originally Posted by Snappy Phoenix

There is absolutely no difference, to me at least.

also, with the 19s, I had Continental, now with the 20s they are Michelin PSS which are superior IMO

Originally Posted by Snappy Phoenix

There is absolutely no difference, to me at least.

also, with the 19s, I had Continental, now with the 20s they are Michelin PSS which are superior IMO

Wow - At least you feel the difference of zcp vs standard m4 . Any comments on zcp?

[Super Spartan]

Originally Posted by dovaro

Wow - At least you feel the difference of zcp vs standard m4 . Any comments on zcp?

1- Less jerkiness when trying to shift from 1st to 2nd in Sports+ mode

2- Power delivery is smoother and more linear. In the non-ZCP, when you mash the throttle, there is a slight lag then all of a sudden BOOM, you get that splurge of power. With the ZCP, it's more linear as in, it starts accelerating faster and the power starts building gradually not suddenly. Is it obvious? not very much. I bet you if I gave you 2 cars, 1 ZCP and one standard and told you tell me which is which, you won't be able to dell a difference.

Yes I know reviews say the ZCP has a tuned setting for the suspension and whatnot, but it's the same to be honest. Again, I'm no pro driver and don't track my car, just telling you my perspective as a *regular* driver who uses his M4 as a daily driver

Out of the long list of upgrades that come with the ZCP, the most obvious and the most worthwhile is the burbles and crackles, man it's insane, every time you let your foot off the gas, you hear like thunder bapbapbapbap...that gives me all the joy...

[dovaro]

Originally Posted by Snappy Phoenix

1- Less jerkiness when trying to shift from 1st to 2nd in Sports+ mode

2- Power delivery is smoother and more linear. In the non-ZCP, when you mash the throttle, there is a slight lag then all of a sudden BOOM, you get that splurge of power. With the ZCP, it's more linear as in, it starts accelerating faster and the power starts building gradually not suddenly. Is it obvious? not very much. I bet you if I gave you 2 cars, 1 ZCP and one standard and told you tell me which is which, you won't be able to dell a difference.

Yes I know reviews say the ZCP has a tuned setting for the suspension and whatnot, but it's the same to be honest. Again, I'm no pro driver and don't track my car, just telling you my perspective as a *regular* driver who uses his M4 as a daily driver

Out of the long list of upgrades that come with the ZCP, the most obvious and the most worthwhile is the burbles and crackles, man it's insane, every time you let your foot off the gas, you hear like thunder bapbapbapbap...that gives me all the joy...

Thanks man for the feedback, I was hesitant to get zcp , but you made it more easy on me

[Super Spartan]

Originally Posted by dovaro

Thanks man for the feedback, I was hesitant to get zcp , but you made it more easy on me

I made it easy as in...you're going to get it or skip it?

Don't forget to watch my video here to get you a bit more excited :

BMW M4 F83 Competition with MPE

[dovaro]

Originally Posted by Snappy Phoenix

I made it easy as in...you're going to get it or skip it?

Don't forget to watch my video here to get you a bit more excited :

BMW M4 F83 Competition with MPE

Watching now - I will get zcp

[Super Spartan]

Originally Posted by dovaro

Watching now - I will get zcp

That's the way to go! Good choice. You'll get all the blacked out parts as standard now so no need to spend on them in the future as well which makes the car look way better vs the chrome ones and if you add them yourself later, they won't add to the value of the car when you sell it but with the ZCP it will.

[swagon]

Counterpoint:



Doesn't need big RIMZ. What it needs is less wheel gap.

[hanman]

I picked up my M3 competition 2 days ago and was seriously conflicted (even did a split screen) on which one I should choose.

In the final hour I asked the dealer to switch back to 20's and I am super happy with my decision they look great in my opinion

[Super Spartan]

Originally Posted by hanman

I picked up my M3 competition 2 days ago and was seriously conflicted (even did a split screen) on which one I should choose.

In the final hour I asked the dealer to switch back to 20's and I am super happy with my decision they look great in my opinion

Congrats dude!! How do you like the burbles on your ZCP?

[silverstar335]

I think the car was made for 20's.

[aBMWfan]

I think it depends on your suspension, and what tire/wheel specs you want to use. With 19's, you can run wider tires without having to reduce the sidewall from potential rubbing.

With my 275/35 fronts, it's pretty close on my KW V3's, but fits perfect with the 19's. I bet if I switch to 20's, I'll have to either reduce it to 265 fronts or down to 30's.

[ONE1]

Originally Posted by Snappy Phoenix

Congrats dude!! How do you like the burbles on your ZCP?

Not sure why everyone likes the burbles. I wish there was a way to turn them off without having to drive in efficient mode. They just sound obnoxious and douchey to me. I know, I'm in the minority on this.

[rakusak]

Originally Posted by hanman

I picked up my M3 competition 2 days ago and was seriously conflicted (even did a split screen) on which one I should choose.

In the final hour I asked the dealer to switch back to 20's and I am super happy with my decision they look great in my opinion

That's a great looking car.

[Audio Fan]

Originally Posted by dovaro

Thanks man for the feedback, I was hesitant to get zcp , but you made it more easy on me

Crazy not to get ZCP. I also drove a ZCP F82 at the performance delivery center. Grip and handling were significantly improved. The biggest difference is being able to get on the power coming out of a turn. My nonZCP M4 seemed to just spin the wheels. I also felt like I was getting more steering feedback on both ZCP F82 and F83. The ZCP cars really have pretty good steering feedback when you push them - not so much during normal driving. Push them them in the twisties, and you'll exactly what's happing up front.

[Audio Fan]

Originally Posted by swagon

Counterpoint:



Doesn't need big RIMZ. What it needs is less wheel gap.

Just seems way to small for a relatively large car.