To all who has aftermarket wheels on your X5, please help!

[t33h00]

I just bought one set of BMW OEM 21" wheels with brand new Michelin super sport tires . I absolute love the look, but it is very noisy especially at high speed. I know it's because the performance tires.
Now, I'm looking for new set aftermarket 20" wheels such as 20" XO Verona.
The reason I go with aftermarket wheels is because all wheels has the same width, more options for tires. thats way I can get all season tires like Michelin Latitude Tour HP. I absolutely love it on my 19" wheels
Question:
Do you think aftermarket wheels reliable?
Will it easy to get bend?
How do you recommend Verona Brand?
How do you guys like it on your X5?
Any complication?

BTW, if any one has a set of 20" and interested in trading, let me know. I may consider that too.

Thank you for all help

[twelve535i]

You should contact vibe or the company directly to ask whether the wheels are low pressure or gravity cast, the weight of each wheel, and load rating.

If they say it's gravity cast, run

You're going to want a fairly heavy 20" wheel, since the amount of "performance" you lose on a 2.5 ton SUV isn't as important as not bending or cracking a rim.

a 20" wheel should weight 30-35 lbs. If the wheel is extra light to "improve performance", it's probably going to bend or crack easily.

I'm not very familiar with what an appropriate load rating is but I'm going to guess that the aftermarket 20's will be around 1600lbs

If you don't mind the opinion, I'd go for stock 20" Xline wheels and powder cost them black. Aftermarket 20's will almost always look too small on a X5

[stewy604]

So its the tire noise that's troublesome for you? Those Michelin's shouldnt be noisy at all. I've got the Pirelli PZeros on my 469M's, they are a little noisy at certain speeds, but there's also a lot of tire contacting the pavement. Doesnt bother me at all.

[t33h00]

Originally Posted by stewy604

So its the tire noise that's troublesome for you? Those Michelin's shouldnt be noisy at all. I've got the Pirelli PZeros on my 469M's, they are a little noisy at certain speeds, but there's also a lot of tire contacting the pavement. Doesnt bother me at all.

Thanks for response.
yes, its a headache for me, compare to my original 19" wheels. The stock one is very quite, but look so small on the X5 though

[stewy604]

Originally Posted by t33h00

Thanks for response.
yes, its a headache for me, compare to my original 19" wheels. The stock one is very quite, but look so small on the X5 though

Which tires were on those 19's? Reason I ask is, if you go with an aftermarket wheel vs the 21's with the Michelins, you face the same issues with road noise based on which tires you choose.

[t33h00]

Originally Posted by stewy604

Which tires were on those 19's? Reason I ask is, if you go with an aftermarket wheel vs the 21's with the Michelins, you face the same issues with road noise based on which tires you choose.

I also have michelin on the 19" wheels as well. They are Latitude Tour HP

[stewy604]

^^ Very different than a performance tire like the Michelin Pilots on the larger wheels.

[kanvas]

Yeah, it's a compromise you will have to be willing to make. I'm running on stock 19s with All Season Pirelli Scorpion Verdes but will upgrade to 20s with Pirelli P Zeros. I'll definitely miss the Verdes...

Those Verona wheels look pretty nice. I'd like to see them on an X5

[Alan l.]

You are going a huge step downwards in terms of quality with those wheels. Most oem wheels are forged or low pressure cast wheels with higher load ratings than your average aftermarket wheels made in china.

[t33h00]

Originally Posted by Alan l.

You are going a huge step downwards in terms of quality with those wheels. Most oem wheels are forged or low pressure cast wheels with higher load ratings than your average aftermarket wheels made in china.

Just curious what wheels do you have on your X5?
brand name and model?
How do you like it?

Thanks

[Alan l.]

BBS SV 22"

They come in 20" size as well.

They are loaded rated higher than most Forged wheels. Approx. 2000-2100lbs per wheel while most generic wheels are more like 1600lbs. If you drove a standard japanese car that weighs 3K lbs then it wouldn't matter as much but once you start getting into big heavy german machinery you need wheels suited for it.

I personally LOVE these wheels. Wouldn't get anything else over them unless we're talking about stuff that cost at least twice as expensive.

Alan

[Kzang]

Originally Posted by Alan l.

BBS SV 22"

They come in 20" size as well.

They are loaded rated higher than most Forged wheels. Approx. 2000-2100lbs per wheel while most generic wheels are more like 1600lbs. If you drove a standard japanese car that weighs 3K lbs then it wouldn't matter as much but once you start getting into big heavy german machinery you need wheels suited for it.

I personally LOVE these wheels. Wouldn't get anything else over them unless we're talking about stuff that cost at least twice as expensive.

Alan

Alan, Do you have any insight and opinion on the Forgestar F14 22" as far as its spec.?

[Alan l.]

Personally no but I was looking at the F14 long and hard back in the day when i had my F10. Ultimately i decided against them for the following reasons:

Long wait time - Orders were taking 3+ months. What if i need a replacement wheel asap?

Questionable build method. I think they are LPC (low pressure cast) wheels. They are NOT forged wheels even though their name suggests they are

Same wheel made to fit Accords to up to Bentleys doesn't sit well with me. One is a 3200lb car while the other is more like 5000lbs.

Parent company iforged has iffy reputation

The biggest reason is if you search across other forums (infiniti, mercedes, acuras etc...) you will find cases of people cracking forgestar wheels. This is a big no no in my book. Any wheel could bend if the pothole is severe enough but inferior wheels tends to crack instead. Its a shame because I think the F14's design is a winner and they look good on almost any car.

Alan

[lowlevelhell]

Originally Posted by Alan l.

Personally no but I was looking at the F14 long and hard back in the day when i had my F10. Ultimately i decided against them for the following reasons:

Long wait time - Orders were taking 3+ months. What if i need a replacement wheel asap?

Questionable build method. I think they are LPC (low pressure cast) wheels. They are NOT forged wheels even though their name suggests they are

Same wheel made to fit Accords to up to Bentleys doesn't sit well with me. One is a 3200lb car while the other is more like 5000lbs.

Parent company iforged has iffy reputation

The biggest reason is if you search across other forums (infiniti, mercedes, acuras etc...) you will find cases of people cracking forgestar wheels. This is a big no no in my book. Any wheel could bend if the pothole is severe enough but inferior wheels tends to crack instead. Its a shame because I think the F14's design is a winner and they look good on almost any car.

Alan

If they're cracking, then they're probably gravity cast wheels and not LPC. LPC is a lower-cost but still good quality method of production. Most OEM aluminum wheels are LPC.

[twelve535i]

Forgestar wheels are made by rotary forging. I've had them on my F10 and one wheel was bent....not sure what that says about the wheel. I don't remember hitting a pothole extra hard

I forged, as Alan mention, has a horrible reputation

If I'm understanding things correctly, if all weights are the same and methods used are reliable:

forged > rotary forged> low pressure cast > gravity cast

What most high end companies do is make a lightweight forged wheel so it's "as strong" as a heavy OEM wheel but the weight saving improves performance

For example:
A 28 lb forged rim is stronger than a 28lb OEM low pressure cast rim

a 20lb forged rim is not stronger than a 28lb oem low pressure cast rim

[Alan l.]

Rotary forged, mono forged .... I feel like some wheel companies make up terms to confuse the consumers. To be honest I don't believe what forgestar claims because I've seen far too many cases of guys cracking their F14s.

[cy07]

I don't like Forgestar as well, you are taking a chance in build quality, I have seen quite a few new sets arrived in less than optimal finishes.

[twelve535i]

Originally Posted by Alan l.

Rotary forged, mono forged .... I feel like some wheel companies make up terms to confuse the consumers. To be honest I don't believe what forgestar claims because I've seen far too many cases of guys cracking their F14s.

Originally Posted by cy07

I don't like Forgestar as well, you are taking a chance in build quality, I have seen quite a few new sets arrived in less than optimal finishes.

R33 wheels cracked.
I saw tons of pictures of cracked rims on Google but decided to take a chance anyway because I got a good deal. Thankfully they didn't crack

I expected to be stronger and not bend though. Based on my experience, I wouldn't buy forgestars again. I would rather have a heavier wheel on any car than to have to deal with bent or crack rims.

[Kzang]

Thats a shame on the forgestar F14 because I was set on getting it because I thought it was one of the most attractive wheels for our F15's! Time to research more

[sdalpha]

Originally Posted by Alan l.

Rotary forged, mono forged .... I feel like some wheel companies make up terms to confuse the consumers.

I agree. It gets way too complicated sometimes, since I also feel like different companies are using different terms for the same thing. I haven't looked it up, but does Forgestar/iforged describe the similarities and differences between say, rotary forging and mono forging?

[stewy604]

+1 on the bad rep for iForged...horrible company to deal with. A close friend of mine was battling with them for over a year on some E90 wheels. From what I remember, one of the barrels kept cracking/seperating. They were definitely not keep on standing behind their product.

[akhter]

you can get a non-staggered / square setup with OEM 19" wheels by get 2 sets of fronts. I personally think the OEM wheels are the best and they are also the safest.