M4 GTS

[Gearhead999s]

So who else ordered one in Canada?

[bobblehead]

You got to be kidding right. It is going to be in the $150K US range (the early rumor) and I have not even heard Canada will get any allocation.

Even if this is available in Canada, I would imagine very limited # is available and say the price is in the $170K Can $, I would pick a Porsche 911 GT3 any day of the week (add on another $70K or so)

[Gearhead999s]

Originally Posted by bobblehead

You got to be kidding right. It is going to be in the $150K US range (the early rumor) and I have not even heard Canada will get any allocation.

Even if this is available in Canada, I would imagine very limited # is available and say the price is in the $170K Can $, I would pick a Porsche 911 GT3 any day of the week (add on another $70K or so)

GT3's are out of production now and used ones are in the $175 + range and GT3 RS's are $210 +.There are 20 GTS's coming to Canada according to my source at BMW Canada but I have also heard 50 from other sources.

[farbmw]

Originally Posted by Gearhead999s

So who else ordered one in Canada?

My sales manger that sold me my M4 told me they have 6 customers that put deposits on the GTS.

[bobblehead]

http://www.carscoops.com/2015/10/lea...t-reveals.html

UK is selling at 100,000 British pounds before VAT. = $155,000 US. As typical, US will always get a price break, therefore, $125,000 US would probably the minimum while Canada is a different story pehaps.

[Gearhead999s]

I expect $160000 + in Canada but it will be wait & see.I have also heard $130-140000 from other sources.But it is not the 1st time that I have bought a car not knowing the final pricing.Canada also tends to have the lowest pricing on German cars when the exchange is factored in.

[waynies]

just get the base model and put the rest of the money into mods, garranteed it will blow the GTS in every which way

[Gearhead999s]

Originally Posted by waynies

just get the base model and put the rest of the money into mods, garranteed it will blow the GTS in every which way

Factory turn key cars are the way to go.I have instructed & driven way too many "modified" cars that are slower than my stock cars have been on the track over the years and not worth anything in the resale market.

[bobblehead]

^ that's true. used GTS buyer will look for factory upgrade since they will be paying 'an arm and a leg'

[waynies]

Originally Posted by Gearhead999s

Factory turn key cars are the way to go.I have instructed & driven way too many "modified" cars that are slower than my stock cars have been on the track over the years and not worth anything in the resale market.

let me rephrase, a base m4 with mods DONE RIGHT blows the gts in every which way

[Gearhead999s]

Originally Posted by waynies

let me rephrase, a base m4 with mods DONE RIGHT blows the gts in every which way

I would need to see this to believe it.By the way I am talking about a road course not in a straight line.

[bobblehead]

LAAS 2015 - BMW wants $134,200 for the 2016 F82 M4 GTS

The standard M4 starts at $65,400. That means the GTS is just over twice the price of the standard M4. The M4 GTS is going to be rare and offers a very impressive Nurburgring laptime (which BMW has yet to prove or backup) but it is not worth double the price of an M4.



The horsepower and torque are bumped but they are bumped through software. That means any M4 owner today can have the same output of the M4 GTS through the aftermarket (and then some) for a fraction of the cost.

The GTS is lighter due to the rear seats being pulled and the carbon fiber pieces. These weight saving measures add up to around 200 pounds but we have to see independent weight test numbers. If a current M4 owner wants to ditch weight off their car they have options that will not cost them another $65k.

What about the suspension and aerodynamics? These parts can also be sourced in the aftermarket. For someone to pay $134,200 for an M4 GTS if seeking a track car when the Viper ACR exists for almost $20k less they must really, really, really, love BMW and have money to burn.

the M4 GTS is not worth the money for what amounts to a standard M4 on steroids. Especially considering it features the exact same turbo engine and anyone can add a solid water/meth injection system to their M3/M4 today for under a grand. With the E92 M3 GTS one could not just take their S65 V8 from 4.0 liters to 4.4 liter as easily as it is to bump power output and add water injection to the M4.

[sunnyboy]

I just want to know when it will be out, so I can start ordering some spare parts. hehe

[Gearhead999s]

Originally Posted by bobblehead

LAAS 2015 - BMW wants $134,200 for the 2016 F82 M4 GTS

The standard M4 starts at $65,400. That means the GTS is just over twice the price of the standard M4. The M4 GTS is going to be rare and offers a very impressive Nurburgring laptime (which BMW has yet to prove or backup) but it is not worth double the price of an M4.



The horsepower and torque are bumped but they are bumped through software. That means any M4 owner today can have the same output of the M4 GTS through the aftermarket (and then some) for a fraction of the cost.

The GTS is lighter due to the rear seats being pulled and the carbon fiber pieces. These weight saving measures add up to around 200 pounds but we have to see independent weight test numbers. If a current M4 owner wants to ditch weight off their car they have options that will not cost them another $65k.

What about the suspension and aerodynamics? These parts can also be sourced in the aftermarket. For someone to pay $134,200 for an M4 GTS if seeking a track car when the Viper ACR exists for almost $20k less they must really, really, really, love BMW and have money to burn.

the M4 GTS is not worth the money for what amounts to a standard M4 on steroids. Especially considering it features the exact same turbo engine and anyone can add a solid water/meth injection system to their M3/M4 today for under a grand. With the E92 M3 GTS one could not just take their S65 V8 from 4.0 liters to 4.4 liter as easily as it is to bump power output and add water injection to the M4.

I want a factory developed tracktoy not a parts bin special At least the GTS is warrantied and will have a solid residual down the road unlike a modified M4 will have.I have done the aftermarket route before in various cars over the years and has usually resulted in a lot of aggravation & heartache with a car that was not much better than stock.Usually when I instruct in modded cars I am usually disgusted at how poorly these cars are on track due to not being developed properly by people that are unskilled to be doing this.Developing a car that works properly both on the street and the track requires a lot of skill & expertise that very few people have.
My M4 listed at about $96000 without CCB's so mid $150000's is not out of line if indeed it is priced at that in Canada.I have a new GT3 RS that is leased out here that lists at $228000 and there will be less GTS's around than that car so the exclusivity should be better down the road but I am not getting this car for future resale but to enjoy driving!

[Gearhead999s]

$153000 in Canada with the Clubsport package as standard and everything else standard.

[twboy1999]

thats not bad actually
153k

[Mark's M]

Originally Posted by Gearhead999s

$153000 in Canada with the Clubsport package as standard and everything else standard.

Not too bad Dunc, only off by a few k per our last conversation. I am very much looking forward to seeing this one!

[SYT_Shadow]

Gearhead, congratulations on the upcoming GTS. I don't get all the 'I'd buy a GT3' and 'a modded M4 is faster' comments

To the first comment, not everyone needs a P car badge on front to feel good at night. The GTS is just as capable as the GT3, an outstanding achievement. Not to mention GT3s aren't available new anymore.

As to the second comment, a modded 5k Civic may also be faster than a GTS. Who cares? A modded M4's resale value will be lower than a totally stock one in the future as has been proven time and time again.

The GTS is all OEM and will increase in value with time, like other limited edition BMWs have.

I hope to run into you at a Calabogie track day sometime!

[Gearhead999s]

Originally Posted by SYT_Shadow

Gearhead, congratulations on the upcoming GTS. I don't get all the 'I'd buy a GT3' and 'a modded M4 is faster' comments

To the first comment, not everyone needs a P car badge on front to feel good at night. The GTS is just as capable as the GT3, an outstanding achievement. Not to mention GT3s aren't available new anymore.

As to the second comment, a modded 5k Civic may also be faster than a GTS. Who cares? A modded M4's resale value will be lower than a totally stock one in the future as has been proven time and time again.

The GTS is all OEM and will increase in value with time, like other limited edition BMWs have.

I hope to run into you at a Calabogie track day sometime!

I do not see the Porsche comparisons either. I am working on a GT3RS for a client and the bill of sale is $237954 + taxes with light options.

I am at Calabogie for 2 days for the Canadian Track Day Adventure on May 28 & 29th which I will be running in my present M4 as the GTS will not be here in time.

Big changes in store for Calabogie in the future.