Best ECU/software tune

LeMans s65 · 06-29-2015, 10:57 AM

Hey guys, I know there is a ton of previous posts about this subject and I've read most. But some of the post are dated and maybe obsolete. So I ask, who is most happy with the readiness, reliability and overall functionality of their tune? I'm running ACM test pipes and rpi intake. That's it, no supercharger and stock rear section..thanks everyone for the insight!

thekurgan · 06-29-2015, 11:51 AM

IBTL

Leonardo629 · 06-29-2015, 01:33 PM

99/1 rule, or 98/2 rule.

98% of the tunes are the same, at least I haven't seen any tune that blew other tunes out of the water. 2% difference lies in the customer service, which I think Mike Benvo (BPM), ESS, and Evolve are the top 3 I'd go to. Time to roll the dice.

I have ESS tune, because Tom@EAS ALWAYS provides good service.

takrdown · 06-29-2015, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Leonardo629

99/1 rule, or 98/2 rule.

98% of the tunes are the same, at least I haven't seen any tune that blew other tunes out of the water. 2% difference lies in the customer service, which I think Mike Benvo (BPM), ESS, and Evolve are the top 3 I'd go to. Time to roll the dice.

I have ESS tune, because Tom@EAS ALWAYS provides good service.

Agreed. No experience with ESS, but I'm really happy with what Mike Benvo has done for me!

tdott · 06-29-2015, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Leonardo629

98% of the tunes are the same, at least I haven't seen any tune that blew other tunes out of the water.

I wouldn't say that 98% percent of tunes are the same, more like 98% of people can't tell the difference.

I'm sure there are differences in many of the values on all of the different tables, much of that probably translates into very small changes. However an experienced tuner can screw things up and can cause damage to an engine.

pbonsalb · 06-29-2015, 02:16 PM

I would use Epic. It seems to have the highest hp cars. With some of the others you get mostly butt dynos.

Articsilber323 · 06-29-2015, 08:33 PM

tuning tech frank smith!

mkPOTO · 06-29-2015, 09:10 PM

hi

surlynkid · 06-30-2015, 04:50 AM

If Evolve is the one in the UK, skip it. The time zone change makes it a pita to work with them. Tune might be fine, but the headache of being able to get fast response or get them on the phone is not worth it.

Consider Epic instead of Evolve.

lutfy · 06-30-2015, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by pbonsalb

I would use Epic. It seems to have the highest hp cars. With some of the others you get mostly butt dynos.

Am very curious as to why? Interested in Epic tune as well since I have seen a bunch of cars dynoed putting higher hp than most. Plus Randy is a standup guy.

Lutfy

mkPOTO · 06-30-2015, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by surlynkid

If Evolve is the one in the UK, skip it. The time zone change makes it a pita to work with them. Tune might be fine, but the headache of being able to get fast response or get them on the phone is not worth it.

Consider Epic instead of Evolve.

really? I have had no issues

surlynkid · 06-30-2015, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by mkPOTO

really? I have had no issues

a friend of mine had all kinds of problems with them. very restricted as to when you can reach them due to time difference. he moved to epic was very happy.

Properstyle · 06-30-2015, 09:35 AM

I went with TTFS out of maryland car is making 381whp 276tq with out a pulley and I still have my secondary cats. I just ran with a active autoworks supercharged e46 in my e90 and was at his door from 45-165

e92livin · 06-30-2015, 09:51 AM

BPM or Evolve

PA Z06 · 06-30-2015, 10:56 AM

BPM has best customer service period.

BPMSport · 06-30-2015, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by PA Z06

BPM has best customer service period.

Thank you

We also have some features others don't offer.

OP, you can checkout info on our software here: http://www.bpmsport.com/BPMTune.pdf

Dave07997S · 06-30-2015, 03:00 PM

Another vote for BPM!! When you need Mike he's there for you, can't stress this enough.

Dave

FogCityM3 · 06-30-2015, 03:10 PM

Haven't seen any epic dynos for the E90 platform (know they've been successful with E46)... are there any?

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Originally Posted by lutfy

Am very curious as to why? Interested in Epic tune as well since I have seen a bunch of cars dynoed putting higher hp than most. Plus Randy is a standup guy.

Lutfy

lutfy · 07-01-2015, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by FogCityM3

Haven't seen any epic dynos for the E90 platform (know they've been successful with E46)... are there any?

I recall Tom from EAS posted one a while back. Need to search but I could have sworn it was borderline 400..

Lutfy

pbonsalb · 07-02-2015, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by lutfy

I recall Tom from EAS posted one a while back. Need to search but I could have sworn it was borderline 400..

Lutfy

Right. Most power.

Everything I have read about Randy and Epic over the years has been very positive. He is an enthusiast. Runs a shop. Supports the BMW community.

Not just a tuner making $100 copies of canned tunes and selling them for $1000 a pop. Randy at Epic is the kind of person you want to support and who has the results you want.

Longboarder · 07-02-2015, 07:58 AM

Give Tom at European Auto Sport a call. He has dynod more M3's than any other shop in the world. Hundreds...maybe more. And he knows what mods were on each car and he has a good idea about which tunes make the most power and speaks to the owners and gets other feedback about tunes/mods.

ldireprophil · 07-02-2015, 08:21 AM

NO to Evolve. Maybe I'm the exception but I have a 46M with Evolve Tune. Re-flashed several times. Sent ECM to them, they sent back. Can't get the car to pass emissions. Over it

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Leonardo629 Lieutenant Colonel 168 Rep 1,792 Posts Drives: 2013 M3 Coupe Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Taiwan iTrader: (10)	99/1 rule, or 98/2 rule. 98% of the tunes are the same, at least I haven't seen any tune that blew other tunes out of the water. 2% difference lies in the customer service, which I think Mike Benvo (BPM), ESS, and Evolve are the top 3 I'd go to. Time to roll the dice. I have ESS tune, because Tom@EAS ALWAYS provides good service.
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Properstyle Major 506 Rep 1,385 Posts Drives: 2011 e90 ZCP m3 Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Killeen, TX iTrader: (0)	I went with TTFS out of maryland car is making 381whp 276tq with out a pulley and I still have my secondary cats. I just ran with a active autoworks supercharged e46 in my e90 and was at his door from 45-165 __________________ 2011 E90m3 ESS G2, active auto x pipe, RK FULL E85, DD 2015 X5M Bootmod3, Downpipes, Mineral white-The wifes DD 1994 300zx 2jz Swapped slicktop- The toy/track car
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