BMW M4 Laser Light and OLED Demo Video

LDSM · 01-07-2015, 04:42 AM

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I wonder how long until we can get this, we might have to wait for the next gen?

More info: http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1075937

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GOLFFRR · 01-07-2015, 06:31 AM

very cool! IMO still atleast a year or so away. I would think we would see it on a test mule somewhere first but then again maybe not. Either way I think its awesome and I would love to have it on my M4

nbennettksu · 01-07-2015, 06:56 AM

IIRC laser lights were not approved for use by the DOT, so we (in the states) may never see it.

CanAutM3 · 01-07-2015, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by nbennettksu

IIRC laser lights were not approved for use by the DOT, so we (in the states) may never see it.

Only the headlights are LASER. The rear lights are OLED, which I do not believe to be restricted by the DOT.

Gonven · 01-07-2015, 07:24 AM

And some real photos

MPNGAO_M4 · 01-07-2015, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Gonven

And some real photos

These are awesome! Does anyone know if there are any pictures with some decent light that we could actual see this new cool white color?

Boostin FD · 01-07-2015, 10:02 AM

I'm sure if they come out on any M4, we'll be able to retrofit

F82_SID · 01-07-2015, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by nbennettksu

IIRC laser lights were not approved for use by the DOT, so we (in the states) may never see it.

Then what about the I8? Doesnt the I8 have laser lights here in the states?

nbennettksu · 01-07-2015, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by F82_SID

Then what about the I8? Doesnt the I8 have laser lights here in the states?

I8 laser lights outlawed in USA. Only ones we will see is with LED lights.

ixse · 01-07-2015, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by nbennettksu

I8 laser lights outlawed in USA. Only ones we will see is with LED lights.

Yea its retarded they set the brightness limit in the states below the laser intensity..

Saphirschwarz · 01-07-2015, 11:28 AM

glad i picked the LED lights because xenons are gonna look prehistoric in a few years lol
( just kiddin )

AKRAPOVICOWNS · 01-07-2015, 11:33 AM

This color kicks ass indeed..lights look way better in RL pics

Manbnda · 01-07-2015, 11:37 AM

By the time these lights are available, cars will be already automated driven, so what's the point?

We need this technology now!

Needbmwpartzz · 01-07-2015, 11:39 AM

Stunningly beautiful!

marcva · 01-07-2015, 11:45 AM

Then we get the Horace upgrade crowd retrofitting higher intensity lasers to burn holes in the tires of people frustrating them in traffic... Pew, Pew. It'll show up on some tech page soon enough.

Why the need for oled in a taillight? Seems like platinum coating to me.

ORIGIN M. · 01-07-2015, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by marcva

Then we get the Horace upgrade crowd retrofitting higher intensity lasers to burn holes in the tires of people frustrating them in traffic... Pew, Pew. It'll show up on some tech page soon enough.

Why the need for oled in a taillight? Seems like platinum coating to me.

Keca10 · 01-07-2015, 12:06 PM

The laser headlights are laser pumped Ce:YAG phosphor....the output is no different that a white LED, which also pumps the Ce:YAG phosphor with a GaN blue LED. No actual laser light makes it out of the headlight. Light output is generated from excited phosphor. I doubt DOT will have an issue with this. I am pretty sure i8 already uses it.

The only benefit of doing this vs an LED is size. You can scale all the optics (lenses) down to the size of the source without losing efficiency (Etendue limitation), which allows for smaller form factor (lighter weight). The cost will be huge compared to LED and also it will have much shorter lifetime (much more difficult to heatsink). I don't see a huge benefit of doing this vs LED, but it does offer a little bit more freedom in aesthetics. Current demo could have been done with LEDs. Nothing special, other than the name 'laser', they don't have an actual laser scanning the road in front.

Same story goes for OLED. It's more expensive than LED and much more unstable for lifetime. Especially with harsh environments. Well designed LED tail lights with light guides could look very similar (suspended and thin 3D light fixtures) if not the same.

Mani59 · 01-07-2015, 12:07 PM

I think I am definitely in the minority on not liking the look of them.
Why have the classic double round headlamps been replaced by some squiggly lines?

chipotle_napkins · 01-07-2015, 12:09 PM

What part exactly is not approved by DOT? Are the angel eyes a part of the laser light system? If not I'm hoping at least the angel eyes will make it into the U.S. with OLED tail lights

fndrsn · 01-07-2015, 12:10 PM

Why exactly are they not allowed in the US? I read on ArsTechnica that the DOT only allows headlights to be JUST highbeam and lowbeam, is that actually the case or are there other factors involved?

Keca10 · 01-07-2015, 12:10 PM

Pretty sure those angels lights are LEDs with a light guide.
You can see the clear plastic light guide.
Only the low beams and high beams are laser generated.

And my understanding is that the US DOT only allows candles in jam jars or oil lamps for headlights.

s!ke · 01-07-2015, 01:03 PM

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Keca10 Lieutenant 438 Rep 501 Posts Drives: ‘18 M3 ZCP / '20 X3 M40i Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: USA iTrader: (1)	The laser headlights are laser pumped Ce:YAG phosphor....the output is no different that a white LED, which also pumps the Ce:YAG phosphor with a GaN blue LED. No actual laser light makes it out of the headlight. Light output is generated from excited phosphor. I doubt DOT will have an issue with this. I am pretty sure i8 already uses it. The only benefit of doing this vs an LED is size. You can scale all the optics (lenses) down to the size of the source without losing efficiency (Etendue limitation), which allows for smaller form factor (lighter weight). The cost will be huge compared to LED and also it will have much shorter lifetime (much more difficult to heatsink). I don't see a huge benefit of doing this vs LED, but it does offer a little bit more freedom in aesthetics. Current demo could have been done with LEDs. Nothing special, other than the name 'laser', they don't have an actual laser scanning the road in front. Same story goes for OLED. It's more expensive than LED and much more unstable for lifetime. Especially with harsh environments. Well designed LED tail lights with light guides could look very similar (suspended and thin 3D light fixtures) if not the same.
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