M4 F82 JB4 104 Oct BOOM!!!

djtallrick · 11-25-2014, 06:30 AM

Stock Exhaust,No Down Pipes
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djtallrick · 11-25-2014, 06:33 AM

Kickin

djtallrick · 11-25-2014, 06:34 AM

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Jaymax85 · 11-25-2014, 06:34 AM

More details!!!

JRV · 11-25-2014, 06:44 AM

I totally prefer the first graph. Congrats though on that whp in the 7xx range.

djtallrick · 11-25-2014, 06:58 AM

Here with 93 oct

MasterC17 · 11-25-2014, 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRV

I totally prefer the first graph. Congrats though on that whp in the 7xx range.

That's torque.

These numbers seem way off - the highest we've ever seen elsewhere (for torque anyway) is 600wtq. I highly doubt you are getting over 700wtq. Even on 93 it looks off. And it's not like other's haven't used 100 or 109 octane on stock or modified exhaust. Sorry - I call BS on this dyno. What were you running for boost pressure on 104?

djtallrick · 11-25-2014, 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MasterC17

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRV

I totally prefer the first graph. Congrats though on that whp in the 7xx range.

That's torque.

These numbers seem way off - the highest we've ever seen elsewhere (for torque anyway) is 600wtq. I highly doubt you are getting over 700wtq. Even on 93 it looks off. And it's not like other's haven't used 100 or 109 octane on stock or modified exhaust. Sorry - I call BS on this dyno. What were you running for boost pressure on 104?

So
You think is not true?

JRV · 11-25-2014, 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MasterC17

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRV

I totally prefer the first graph. Congrats though on that whp in the 7xx range.

That's torque.

These numbers seem way off - the highest we've ever seen elsewhere (for torque anyway) is 600wtq. I highly doubt you are getting over 700wtq. Even on 93 it looks off. And it's not like other's haven't used 100 or 109 octane on stock or modified exhaust. Sorry - I call BS on this dyno. What were you running for boost pressure on 104?

Oh right...my bad.

dmk08 · 11-25-2014, 07:47 AM

Manual or DCT? MasterC has said the DCT cant handle more than 600 wtq.

MasterC17 · 11-25-2014, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djtallrick

So
You think is not true?

Please post logs to back up dyno. Sorry, but there's no way this car is making over 700wtq. Either the dyno is way off, or the graph is fabricated. The whp is believable (albeit a little high), but the torque isn't even close.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmk08

Manual or DCT? MasterC has said the DCT cant handle more than 600 wtq.

*Much over 600wtq. I need to get back on a dyno to determine at exactly how much torque it starts to slip. We know it can handle 600wtq (EAS), but I don't think my car was making THAT much over what they were. My tentative guess is around 625.

CanAutM3 · 11-25-2014, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MasterC17

That's torque.

These numbers seem way off - the highest we've ever seen elsewhere (for torque anyway) is 600wtq. I highly doubt you are getting over 700wtq. Even on 93 it looks off. And it's not like other's haven't used 100 or 109 octane on stock or modified exhaust. Sorry - I call BS on this dyno. What were you running for boost pressure on 104?

At least the power numbers are in line with torque numbers...

NorCal f80 · 11-25-2014, 08:45 AM

From the title of the thread I thought your shit blew up. Whew.

jc05e46m3 · 11-25-2014, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MasterC17

That's torque.

These numbers seem way off - the highest we've ever seen elsewhere (for torque anyway) is 600wtq. I highly doubt you are getting over 700wtq. Even on 93 it looks off. And it's not like other's haven't used 100 or 109 octane on stock or modified exhaust. Sorry - I call BS on this dyno. What were you running for boost pressure on 104?

Agreed. HP numbers seem a little high (even assuming this is on JB4's highest map) but let's say they're legit. The torque, however, is completely off. The curve doesnt even look right to me (starting at 3k RPMS for the biggest numbers? weird). The other chart for the 93 is much more realistic, but is still showing some inflated torque numbers (perhaps that is when the connection started getting bad) I don't blame the OP; my guess is that the RPM sensor is not connected right/malfunctioned/whatever and isn't giving the correct input to the software. Thus, using the measured horsepower and bad RPM signal is giving an inflated reading because when the torque calculation is computed, it isnt getting the right information. I have seen similar things happen in the past. I could be wrong, but using physics equations in my head, seems the most logical to me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by djtallrick

So
You think is not true?

Nope.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 0-100 nga real quick

From the title of the thread I thought your shit blew up. Whew.

lol, I hope that doesn't happen to anyone!

Money2536 · 11-25-2014, 10:30 AM

I'm guessing they chose the wrong timing degree. I forget what it's called, but when I chose 360 degree timing profile the Torque mulitplication is way off and the measure HP was about 50 whp high. A Dyno expert can explain what I'm talking about.

AreOut · 11-25-2014, 03:58 PM

maximum power at 4K rpm, like a diseasel

Mik3ymomo · 11-25-2014, 04:20 PM

Hit the track and get a trap speed. Even a VBox in a pinch.
Trap speed will tell the story. Dynos vary.

I like what I'm seeing.
Needs a 1/4 mile trap speed to see if that Dyno is way off.

Evooooo · 11-25-2014, 04:25 PM

These charts are bogus. The M does not hold power or tq like that. It can't turbos are too small. This is a waste of a post and getting people excited over this fabricated crap is annoying. The hp is not in line either as some have said. Didn't bms make 560 580 with e-85 down pipes and exhaust? I def don't believe this.

Evooooo · 11-25-2014, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MasterC17

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRV

I totally prefer the first graph. Congrats though on that whp in the 7xx range.

That's torque.

These numbers seem way off - the highest we've ever seen elsewhere (for torque anyway) is 600wtq. I highly doubt you are getting over 700wtq. Even on 93 it looks off. And it's not like other's haven't used 100 or 109 octane on stock or modified exhaust. Sorry - I call BS on this dyno. What were you running for boost pressure on 104?

Agreed man, this is total shit lol.

jc05e46m3 · 11-25-2014, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evooooo

These charts are bogus. The M does not hold power or tq like that. It can't turbos are too small. This is a waste of a post and getting people excited over this fabricated crap is annoying. The hp is not in line either as some have said. Didn't bms make 560 580 with e-85 down pipes and exhaust? I def don't believe this.

BMS car has no exhaust mods

fusionchicken · 11-25-2014, 04:50 PM

simple question: what does a stock F8x M3/4 make on this dyno?

ixse · 11-25-2014, 05:15 PM

Typical dyno shop fudging the numbers to keep tge customers happy. These days and age, everybody wants to hear the highest numbers, which is completely meaningless w/o any ref point. What really counts is the area under the curve change from base run on the same exact dyno. So we can hear the actual gains instead of some random numbers

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