7k miles and running hot

templarklimek · 10-16-2014, 05:27 PM

Gents,

I have only 7K on my CPO'ed M3. It a stripper with test pipes and bolt on mods and ECU tune(dinan), This is my 3rd E92 M3, none of the others ever ran hot. But this one when I run up to 8k RPM's get warm immediately. The temp gauge jumps up a tick from the normal around 210 to maybe 230 from just a quick run up on the feeder.

Should I be concerned? Thanks for your thoughts and advice.

///M Power-Belgium · 10-16-2014, 05:43 PM

What type of oil is used ?

templarklimek · 10-16-2014, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

What type of oil is used ?

Well IDK really. BMW serviced the car. Thoughts on oil? tks.

W/// · 10-16-2014, 07:38 PM

Seems weird as the weather is cooler now. Maybe check to see if there's air in the cooling system?

edwinm3 · 10-16-2014, 07:43 PM

You bought her used right? Maybe previous owner had a pulley installed and dealer overlooked it. I would consider it normal if it has a pulley and you're redlining her.

templarklimek · 10-16-2014, 07:59 PM

good point, I have dinan pulleys ready for install actually. I had the same thought. Again it's weird, my previous M3 had pulleys and no increase in temp.

I'll do oil change and get cooling system. I'm a life long BMW customer with 12 cars bought. I'm confident they will address this.

Rupes · 10-17-2014, 02:41 AM

Mine does this too. Second M3 and stock. Comes back down to 210 pretty quickly. From the research I did, it didn't seem to happen to every car, but it happened to enough cars not to worry.

SenorFunkyPants · 10-17-2014, 02:57 AM

I would suggest getting this resolved quickly....high temps significantly thins the oil and reduces its ability to protect the engine.

Sirius Black · 10-17-2014, 01:55 PM

I experience this as well. I thought my issue may be because the AA SC intercooler requires moving the oil cooler lower to make room. Possibly reducing air flow thru the oil cooler. I think they have redesign the Intercooler on their newer kit. Now they are wider, and not at tall.

Temps do come back down soon enough though.

templarklimek · 10-17-2014, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SenorFunkyPants

I would suggest getting this resolved quickly....high temps significantly thins the oil and reduces its ability to protect the engine.

All helpful info gents, thank you. I will get a oil change at dealer and logs this issues with them if future problems.

happos2 · 10-17-2014, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by edwinm3

You bought her used right? Maybe previous owner had a pulley installed and dealer overlooked it. I would consider it normal if it has a pulley and you're redlining her.

I have a pulley and I don't see my temperatures spike and decline as stated. I can get some higher (but still with-in normal operating range) when I run it hard for an extended period of time, and it needs to be fairly warm out...

chris719 · 10-17-2014, 04:23 PM

Not to alarm you, but there was at one poster iirc who claimed his temps went way down once his rod bearings were replaced.

templarklimek · 10-17-2014, 07:20 PM

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Not to alarm you, but there was at one poster iirc who claimed his temps went way down once his rod bearings were replaced.

Oh Jeez, relevant point. I will definitely do this thru dealer operations so I have history on this issue with BMW actual. Thank you. I'll have them note on service my concern about this may be bearing issue for the future.

SenorFunkyPants · 10-18-2014, 04:29 AM

Bearings would be a very unlikely cause of the phenomenon you are seeing....there is some other problem, a sticking oil cooler thermostat or something like that.

Rupes · 10-18-2014, 07:46 AM

A lot of bad advice on here. If you are at 230 on spirited driving, then you are fine. Go check your owners manual and see what it says for normal operating temperatures (hint: you're within specs). Read other posts on this issue and you'll find many have the same phenomenon and have since day 1.

///M Power-Belgium · 10-18-2014, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Rupes

A lot of bad advice on here. If you are at 230 on spirited driving, then you are fine. Go check your owners manual and see what it says for normal operating temperatures (hint: you're within specs). Read other posts on this issue and you'll find many have the same phenomenon and have since day 1.

Think it's normal,because I saw OP lives in Texas and as far as I know... it's never cold in Texas , it's Cowboy land ?

///M Ryder · 10-18-2014, 08:36 AM

I've been running my Dinan pulley for over 40k miles and many track days. I've never seen a spike like you're describing. Make sure the oil cooler is clean and not blocked by plastic or paper.........Phil

8600RPM · 10-18-2014, 11:50 AM

Make sure there is no trash or debree on your radiator or oil cooler.

templarklimek · 10-18-2014, 12:34 PM

good point Phil, I'm on it. Phil is the Houston area M3 UBER Meister.

templarklimek · 10-18-2014, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupes

A lot of bad advice on here. If you are at 230 on spirited driving, then you are fine. Go check your owners manual and see what it says for normal operating temperatures (hint: you're within specs). Read other posts on this issue and you'll find many have the same phenomenon and have since day 1.

Noted, but again my other M3's don't didn't ever do this. And it jumps 20 degress from just a quick 8k run up for 5 seconds on feeder.

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templarklimek templarklimek 142 Rep 868 Posts Drives: 15' X6M, 12' R8 V10, Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Houston Texas iTrader: (0)	good point, I have dinan pulleys ready for install actually. I had the same thought. Again it's weird, my previous M3 had pulleys and no increase in temp. I'll do oil change and get cooling system. I'm a life long BMW customer with 12 cars bought. I'm confident they will address this.
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Rupes Major 1056 Rep 1,459 Posts Drives: F87 M2 (current), E90 330xi (w Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Oregon iTrader: (0)	Mine does this too. Second M3 and stock. Comes back down to 210 pretty quickly. From the research I did, it didn't seem to happen to every car, but it happened to enough cars not to worry.
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chris719 Major General 7334 Rep 7,298 Posts Drives: '08 M Roadster Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NJ iTrader: (0)	Not to alarm you, but there was at one poster iirc who claimed his temps went way down once his rod bearings were replaced.
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SenorFunkyPants Brigadier General 2511 Rep 4,381 Posts Drives: 2019 M5 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Bearings would be a very unlikely cause of the phenomenon you are seeing....there is some other problem, a sticking oil cooler thermostat or something like that.
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Rupes Major 1056 Rep 1,459 Posts Drives: F87 M2 (current), E90 330xi (w Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Oregon iTrader: (0)	A lot of bad advice on here. If you are at 230 on spirited driving, then you are fine. Go check your owners manual and see what it says for normal operating temperatures (hint: you're within specs). Read other posts on this issue and you'll find many have the same phenomenon and have since day 1.
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///M Ryder Grown Azz Man 429 Rep 3,021 Posts Drives: GT4 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Texas iTrader: (8)	I've been running my Dinan pulley for over 40k miles and many track days. I've never seen a spike like you're describing. Make sure the oil cooler is clean and not blocked by plastic or paper.........Phil __________________ 2016 GT4.....Sapphire Blue Metallic, Platinum stitch Leather/Alcantara interior, Carbon Fiber Trim, PCM w/Nav, Guards Red Belts, 2 Zone Climate, Sport Chrono, LWB, Smokers Pack, Big Gas Tank, Light Design Pack, Bi-Xenon w/PDL, Auto Dim Mirror, Clear Side Markers, GTS Clear Taillights
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