ESS 650 DCT Vs Evolve DCT Race Video!

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Ask and we shall receive! What a tight race!

Now we just need to see some other kits, maybe even a TT car or built motors.. to join in the fun!

[BobS]

Nice vids! LM's car is why I went evolve. All it took was one test drive and i was saving for a evolve SC!

[Toxic 335]

Damn. Whats the ESS car putting down?

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Originally Posted by Toxic 335

Damn. Whats the ESS car putting down?

Has to be close to 600RW. The rankings for Mpact have the ESS car at 153mph and Evolve 152mph for fastest trap speeds

[BobS]

Originally Posted by Serpico

Has to be close to 600RW. The rankings for Mpact have the ESS car at 153mph and Evolve 152mph for fastest trap speeds

I'd say for this vid that's accurate...

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Rumor has it the ESS car did 10.8@127. not bad at all in this summer heat! Me thinks its going to be a very fun fall racing season

[BAL278]

Originally Posted by Serpico

Rumor has it the ESS car did 10.8@127. not bad at all in this summer heat! Me thinks its going to be a very fun fall racing season

whose ESS m3 is that?

[SflBimmer8484]

Now push that Rotrex to 9 psi and let the fun begin

[Patrón]

Originally Posted by Andrew@ActiveAutowerke

Now push that Rotrex to 9 psi and let the fun begin

can the motor handle 9 psi on 93 oct?

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Nice runs !
Just to be clear here, 1 Psi doesn't take the car from 146 MPH to 152 MPH unless i'm missing something here. The 7 Psi hit 145 MPH so that makes the car in the video a 9 Psi !

[BobS]

Originally Posted by IMG

Nice runs !
Just to be clear here, 1 Psi doesn't take the car from 146 MPH to 152 MPH unless i'm missing something here. The 7 Psi hit 145 MPH so that makes the car in the video a 9 Psi !

Which car are you referring to? The ess car?

[SflBimmer8484]

Originally Posted by Patrón

can the motor handle 9 psi on 93 oct?

I can only speak for our kits which use meth as a safety blanket with either 91 or 93 oct but, we have ran it without and everything looked fine with 93.

[Patrón]

Originally Posted by Andrew@ActiveAutowerke

I can only speak for our kits which use meth as a safety blanket with either 91 or 93 oct but, we have ran it without and everything looked fine with 93.

Thank you for the response Andrew.

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Originally Posted by BobS

Which car are you referring to? The ess car?

I believe he is referring to both cars. But we know for fact both cars were on standard 7.x psi pulleys at pocono for the roll ons, and the difference in trap speeds came from dropping weight and adding race fuel to both cars as they both increased speed incrementally over 2 consecutive days and both saw the same increases. However, the ACM-R package only came to light afterwards for the highway stuff, so who knows what psi its at now.

The Evolve car is getting the Dodson clutches so it can go hit the 1/4 mile properly

[BobS]

Right, plus your traps also can vary if you don't start on the first set of cones at the same speed... Example would be starting to race at 45 mph vs. 60 mph.

Without a way to verify start speed(besides taking the drivers word for it), comparing traps from different races is very difficult.

[Longboarder]

Any Evolve cars in SoCal? If so I'd love to do some friendly runs with my daily driver ESS 650 e92.

I signed up for the NoFlyZone Half-Mile event November 15th. Bakersfield, CA. There's always some ESS and AA cars...hopefully Gintani and VF too.

[DLSJ5]

Originally Posted by BobS

Right, plus your traps also can vary if you don't start on the first set of cones at the same speed... Example would be starting to race at 45 mph vs. 60 mph.

Without a way to verify start speed(besides taking the drivers word for it), comparing traps from different races is very difficult.

Agreed, but it's extremely simple how 1/4, 1/2, and 1 mile trap speeds should be measured, compared, etc. They should only be from a standing start / dig. If you're doing rolling sbs races and going from a designated cone, then those traps will be lower usually, and the measurement should not start from the cone off a roll. I have no idea how they measured the distance at this event, but Shift-S3ctor trap speeds, despite what some people have stated or tried to trivialize, are always measured from a DIG at the back of the runway, everyone who is going for trap speeds starts in the exact same spot, there is no way to manipulate those results.

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Originally Posted by DLSJ5

Agreed, but it's extremely simple how 1/4, 1/2, and 1 mile trap speeds should be measured, compared, etc. They should only be from a standing start / dig. If you're doing rolling sbs races and going from a designated cone, then those traps will be lower usually, and the measurement should not start from the cone off a roll. I have no idea how they measured the distance at this event, but Shift-S3ctor trap speeds, despite what some people have stated or tried to trivialize, are always measured from a DIG at the back of the runway, everyone who is going for trap speeds starts in the exact same spot, there is no way to manipulate those results.

No one really cares about the trap speeds in anything other than 1/4 and 1/2 mile. Everything they have done so far is to "legalize" street racing, as in run your mouth and your car, beat the other guy. Thats why they went all in and now do bracketing by ET and not MPH, they were the first to do so, the faster car is the one that cover the distance the fastest, not peak mph. Otherwise you have a 165mph civic getting trained by 150mph ZL1's ect ect

what SS3/WGF/SSRE/TSS do all are very separate things and i doubt anyone is comparing them to eachother as anything more than anecdotal, the actual race distances themselves vary.

I think you will see very other event now follow suit and do the same thing, add in ET and Rolling Start MPH's to standardize everything. Not for comparison to other events, but because if performance numbers can be measured, real racers want to see it, both MPH (the most inaccurate) as well as ET, and Start MPH for roll ons

[BobS]

Originally Posted by DLSJ5

Agreed, but it's extremely simple how 1/4, 1/2, and 1 mile trap speeds should be measured, compared, etc. They should only be from a standing start / dig. If you're doing rolling sbs races and going from a designated cone, then those traps will be lower usually, and the measurement should not start from the cone off a roll. I have no idea how they measured the distance at this event, but Shift-S3ctor trap speeds, despite what some people have stated or tried to trivialize, are always measured from a DIG at the back of the runway, everyone who is going for trap speeds starts in the exact same spot, there is no way to manipulate those results.

Agreed. I wasn't referring to other events just comparing traps from different cars at this event. I know slipstream now has a solution to make sure the starting cone speeds are the same