Penalty for missing front plate in Ontario?

iPodAddict · 04-30-2008, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ctgazer

no this would not be a moving violation so no insurance/no point deduction. however, if you dont pay it, you may not be able to have your vehicle registration/license renewed...consider your fines as paying for the police's donuts and coffee's as they stake you out

Not true!

This is considered a "minor" infraction.

Once you have 3 or more, your insurance company may randomly perform a drivers abstract check on you and discover it... and then you're screweedddd

SharpC · 05-01-2008, 08:36 AM

So if you don't have any other "minor" infractions, will one instance raise your insurance??

SharpC · 05-01-2008, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by iPodAddict

It's $110 as others have stated.

90% of the time or more, it is NOT the first offence they're looking for... usually the "no front plate" ticket is just a secondary or later offence when being pulled over...

Example: pulled over for weaving in and out of traffic like some fast and the furious douchebag... cops do a circle around the car and notice the plate missing and you're getting it too.

In that case, I will risk it. Especially in Ottawa, since we're on the border, there are countless Quebec cars here without a plate up front. I don't think cops bother looking. I'll try to behave otherwise so I don't get pulled over...

ctgazer · 05-01-2008, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by iPodAddict

Not true!

This is considered a "minor" infraction.

Once you have 3 or more, your insurance company may randomly perform a drivers abstract check on you and discover it... and then you're screweedddd

oh really....but then how do they know that you have 3 or more? and if they know, then why does it have to be random? i was always under the impression that only moving violations were badd...all the others, well, we just giving $$ to the city

iPodAddict · 05-01-2008, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ctgazer

oh really....but then how do they know that you have 3 or more? and if they know, then why does it have to be random? i was always under the impression that only moving violations were badd...all the others, well, we just giving $$ to the city

My broker told me they perform these checks annually. When it happens though, is random. If they discover more than 3 minor convictions (not 3 tickets, but 3 tickets you were convicted of) then they usually consider that as 1 major offence.

mikev333 · 05-01-2008, 09:39 AM

car insurance companies in ontario are blood sucking vampires... we should have public/no fault insurance like the rest of canada.

ctgazer · 05-01-2008, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by iPodAddict

My broker told me they perform these checks annually. When it happens though, is random. If they discover more than 3 minor convictions (not 3 tickets, but 3 tickets you were convicted of) then they usually consider that as 1 major offence.

does this include parking violations? since you have to plead either innocent or guilty....

SharpC · 05-01-2008, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by iPodAddict

My broker told me they perform these checks annually. When it happens though, is random. If they discover more than 3 minor convictions (not 3 tickets, but 3 tickets you were convicted of) then they usually consider that as 1 major offence.

Twisted insurance companies logic. How does not wearing your front plates or a parking infraction make a you a threat on the road or a bad driver? WTF!
We definitely need more oversight over these criminals!

Refujeet · 05-01-2008, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SharpC

Twisted insurance companies logic. How does not wearing your front plates or a parking infraction make a you a threat on the road or a bad driver? WTF!
We definitely need more oversight over these criminals!

I'm not a fan of the front license plate either, BUT...

Not obeying the front license plate law does tell them something about your willingnes to obey laws, regardless of how dumb you may think they are.

BMdblU · 05-01-2008, 12:11 PM

As others said, it's $110. I've had a few now in just 6 months.. Got one the other day pulling out of Fairview mall.. cops who have nothing better to do and are looking to meet their qouta will pull you over for it. I love how it looks without it, but it's almost not worth the hassle. Sucks because my front lip and black lower mesh just came in and I'm considering putting the plate back on after 3 tickets.

iPodAddict · 05-01-2008, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ctgazer

does this include parking violations? since you have to plead either innocent or guilty....

insurance companies never look at parking infractions... the only thing its there for is when you try to renew your vehicle sticker... MTO won't let you do it unless you pay up the fines first lol.

the license plate isn't a "moving" violation... but it's still a violation in the H.T.A.

dbempire · 06-15-2008, 10:47 PM

I've just signed the petition and also sent a message to the ministry of transportation using their feedback form. This is a law I'd like to see changed. People pay a lot of money for their vehicles and although there are other obvious reasons to not have a front plate (i.e. cost to produce, damage in minor bumper collisions, etc), people pay a lot of money for there cars and the front plate just looks aweful.

CurlyFatAngry · 06-15-2008, 11:16 PM

Speaking of front plates, anyone here from Montreal can tell me why most if not all cars there don't have them?

halB · 06-15-2008, 11:47 PM

Quebec stopped issuing front plates years ago for cost saving.

Marsch52 · 06-16-2008, 03:47 PM

Ditto with Alberta! No front plates for any Alberta vehicle.

halB · 06-17-2008, 08:22 PM

Yeah! Ontario is in the Stone Age and Dalton McGinty is making us go back in time even further!

Photo radar will be next, I bet!!

ARA5HE90 · 06-17-2008, 11:59 PM

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Isn't it obvious? The other 2 were bored.

very true..

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mikev333 First Lieutenant 14 Rep 313 Posts Drives: 2008 E90 328 AW Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scarborough iTrader: (1)	car insurance companies in ontario are blood sucking vampires... we should have public/no fault insurance like the rest of canada.
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BMdblU Brigadier General 152 Rep 3,983 Posts Drives: F80 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Toronto iTrader: (2)	As others said, it's $110. I've had a few now in just 6 months.. Got one the other day pulling out of Fairview mall.. cops who have nothing better to do and are looking to meet their qouta will pull you over for it. I love how it looks without it, but it's almost not worth the hassle. Sucks because my front lip and black lower mesh just came in and I'm considering putting the plate back on after 3 tickets.
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dbempire TiAg335i 0 Rep 47 Posts Drives: '08 E90 TiAg335i Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	I've just signed the petition and also sent a message to the ministry of transportation using their feedback form. This is a law I'd like to see changed. People pay a lot of money for their vehicles and although there are other obvious reasons to not have a front plate (i.e. cost to produce, damage in minor bumper collisions, etc), people pay a lot of money for there cars and the front plate just looks aweful.
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CurlyFatAngry Lieutenant 18 Rep 509 Posts Drives: his BMW as much as he can ! Join Date: May 2008 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	Speaking of front plates, anyone here from Montreal can tell me why most if not all cars there don't have them?
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Marsch52 Type A - BMW Concours Judge 19 Rep 143 Posts Drives: 2010 328i xDrive Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Vancouver, BC iTrader: (1)	Ditto with Alberta! No front plates for any Alberta vehicle. __________________ 2010 328i xDrive, Jet Black, K&N filter, Euro headlight switch, Alarm/door lock beep kit, BMS, slotted rotors with ceramic pads, etc
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