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Amg GT 73e is coming with 800+ HP there is already a rumored Cayenne Turbo GT with 800hp. I owned a M5 I personally don't think it needs more power. My biggest gripe was the unsorted suspension - its stiff for the sake of being stiff but doesn't transition into better more tossable handling. In addition BMW steering is awful - artificially heavy with zero feedback As far as this CS goes if it actually did lose that weight that's exciting and much more welcome then more HP BMW and most of automakers with ever increasing weight is discouraging. M3 AWD 4100lbs my gosh what's happened!!!
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There is only about 11% from msrp to true triple net of holdback on these cars in the US--- BMW then gave the add on monies to help the move the car. Those monies were not originally available on the car when it came out here in 2018 around late July. Edit: If memory serves me, the trunk money was around 15k. You add that on to a full monty 11% off deal and one could get a smoking deal on a CS (many did). Im not sure what was done in Canada though.
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For instance, in Canada, MSRP on my M4cs was ~88k USD, which was ~16k above a comparably equipped M4competition. Still expensive, but much more reasonable IMO.
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Agreed and thanks for updating me on the latest. With lemetier saying that 7:29 is “not even close” in a comment here I’m suspecting we’ll see a sub 7:25 from the CS.
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There are videos of the CS running slower than the Comp on some track they were testing on Now that was likely an anomaly and I am sure it will improve on the M5 Comps numbers but I'd be surprised if it beat either the Panny or AMG GT. BMW has never really been great on the ring times
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That's f*cking sad..... only 154lbs weight reduction? That's honestly a joke!!
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Apparently much has been righted in the LCI that's coming this spring. Time will tell Obv the Porsche sports cars are on another level and after a different market. They def know what they're doing with suspension, steering and PDK Masters of less HP light weight and great performance - in the sports cars and even their SUV's imo
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300lbs+ weight reduction would have been a good start
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Where are you pulling this info from? As someone who spends a good portion of my life gutting street cars to turn them into track cars for my customers, especially BMWs, I'll tell you the entire sound system is nowhere near 200lbs.
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Other comments that BMW should have added power instead of weight reduction are even stranger. The negativity towards this car is surprising. The base and competition is still offered if a CS M5 isn’t people’s cup of tea. Personally I really like what BMW done here and it seems like a great CS M5. Last edited by solstice; 12-30-2020 at 11:07 AM.. |
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but in short CS has better power band steering is sharper and handles better. It has staggered set up for wheels dampening is better. Actually softer than comp which was a surprise looks better sounded a little better initially and way better now as it has Full EXHAUST feels more special |
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I've amended my post to clear the ambiguity surrounding that.
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