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It's a supplier/component problem. It has no relation to any amount of mule testing. Simply a bad part out of a bad batch that made it through the production line and ultimately the customer's hands.
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10-25-2018, 04:06 PM | #90 |
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I hear ya but if it was a failure in protoype testing it would have been from build 1 and more than 12 in total. This was an anomolly. Be more grateful it was brought up ahead of time rather than a new owner calling for a tow. A Dr. would agree
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If it happened to me, I'd probably replace the motor as a motor install is a motor install. I'd also want some immediate compensation and long term such as EW. As you are leasing, that might not be important to you. On the other hand, again, probably not important to you, but if I owned, I would want full engine compartment painted BSM to match exterior while the engine was out for an extra nice look. In today's environment, I just don't see it was a big deal s matching numbers are not as important as they once were. |
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10-25-2018, 04:27 PM | #93 |
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Dealerships have been clueless on replacing the diff oils correctly on these cars, and you think they would do a good job of replacing the engine? I would fight tooth and nail to avoid a nightmare like that.
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Furthermore, in my previous experience, Company flew in tech to try and resolve issue before buying car back as the car was more rare than a M5 and had major publicity in them for the Company. |
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M5 is the top level of Bmw Motorsport at the moment... and this kind of problem shouldn't happen to a top level product of premium Brand like bmw. Honestly I am very worried cause in 5 months I had two recall and one issue for cooling fans. The last one didn't cause problems ... do u know why? I noticed it 10 second before arriving to my tuner garage. Honestly I think these are the side effect of " non handmade 600hp engine". I am much more worried cause I tuned my Emma5 by Obd and i increase turbo pressure, torque limiters and I also remove speed limit at all. I know... u can say it is a problem only for me, but I had tune all my turbo cars in my life but no one of them (Audi tt, Audi tts, Audi S5, Bmw m3 F80), had got this kind of recall. I feel not safe thinking about what could happen if engine would have a problem at 340 km/h...or honestly 200 km/h also... Ps I'm sorry for my English |
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Not that iPhones and BMWs have any sort of equivalency, but my brand new iPhone XS proved to have a software glitch that was discovered after the 15 day return period. After many hours and Olympian efforts to fix, I was sent a refurb XS, and this was on day 22 after its release. You can bet that there are some previously rejected, newly refurbished engines for the M5 floating out there.
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First year issues. F10 went through some issues in the beginning also. It happens.
Funny thing is that I bought my car on March 14th and it has been flawless. I was mentally prepared for issues but none so far.
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Well said. First year issues and first years issues are quite common. BMW decision to replace the entire engine is a practical decision and benefits the customer the most. It's a swap of one part - albeit a large one. I would not want the dealer to perform open heart surgery on a complex high performance engine to replace a small part.
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That is true lease or outright purchase. Diminished Value, as stated in OP, does not apply to a lease. |
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Engine swaps are heavy maintenance which is why they will probably bring someone in to assist. Just a ton of stuff that comes apart that you have to hope goes back together correctly. Could be a lease long problem child. Personally, I'd push to have them get you out. You'll never look at it the same.
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10-25-2018, 07:00 PM | #108 |
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welp, I'm aware of the one of the two sitting on dealer lots that's getting this done. IMO, you can take the dealer to the woodshed on this one as there's no way they'll be able to get their $15k premium over sticker for it now. Ha!
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Now you can sue BMWNA for diminished value...but that's gonna be a tough one to win, so you're likely to settle after a protracted battle that will cost you thousands.
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