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Note that the 1 foot rollout is worth more in the range of 0.2 to 0.3 seconds.
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Zee Germens Always Say It Like It Is
I have always found that the German press is more appreciative of BMW M than other places. They seem to see the strengths of the product and not focus on details that divert attention from what it does best.
I have to say that the AMG, while not my taste does score for being more bespoke and special feeling than the run of the mill Benz. At that price range, it goes some way to tip customer appeal. |
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02-05-2019, 12:56 AM | #26 |
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I think that is the original point. Why does the GT63 even exist when the CLS is already there?
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02-05-2019, 02:29 AM | #27 |
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The CLS is a Mercedes and the GT 4-door is a Mercedes-AMG. Think of it as two different companies that uses similar parts. The GT 4-door is AMG's own car whereas an E63 is a Mercedes "tuned" by AMG.
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02-05-2019, 07:37 AM | #30 |
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Rightfully according to who (aside from the author and yourself)? You're assuming that their subjective choice can be imputed to everyone else...
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02-05-2019, 07:48 AM | #31 |
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To bring up the Fiesta ST in the first place in this thread is incredible. Let's discuss the Fiesta ST when you driven the ST but in a different thread.
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Thanks for sharing! M5 is a testament to engineers and product managers who delivered exceptional performance at the right price. The authors of the article undoubtedly felt the same.
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The Fiesta ... is over LOL
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Besides performance points, look at the price difference! I know the direct competitor is the E63S for the M5, but even then.... how do you justify? It must be the looks at that point...
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02-05-2019, 10:55 AM | #38 |
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I'd definitely take the Mercedes.
In todays climate, the M5 looks like a total dad car. The design is far too safe and not aggressive in any way shape or form. |
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The final scoring says:
Drivetrain 5 stars for both cars Performance: 5 stars for both cars Brakes: 4.5 for both (even though M5 has shorter stopping distances) Handling/Driving fun: 4.5 for M5 and 4.0 for GT63S - GT63S is named to be more comfortable while M5 is sportier and more exciting Cornering: 4.0 for both - M5 is 188 kilos lighter and thus easier to throw around but AMG feels more relaxed through corners Comfort: M5 gets 2.5 and GT63S gets 4 stars - M5 rides harder which can get annoying on longer drives while GT63S is comfortable. Daily driving: M5 gets 4 stars and GT63S gets 3.5 stars - M5 has more interior room. Price/performance: M5 gets 3 stars and AMG gets 2 - GT63S costs 40.000 euros more. Final score: 4.1 for the M5 and 4.0 for GT63S. Verdict: M5 is less comfortable but still wins due to the AMGs steep price. |
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Pam Turbo is also more expensive and slower than the M5. But as I have said in another post, not everyone is looking for the ultimate price/performance ratio, MB has a different look and sound, I'm sure some people still dig it even if overpriced.
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