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      02-25-2014, 09:52 AM   #1
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Are 20"s too big?

Was going through the photoshop thread, at its hard for me to tell, but I think most of those are 19"s ??

Question is whether 20" HRE's would look too big on this car.. I assume that 20"s are easier to bend on the crap Boston roads too.
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      02-25-2014, 10:24 AM   #2
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On the F-chassis, no way bro. Just take a look at all of the F30's on 20's. The F8X will be wider; 20's will be quite fitting. 19" wheels tend to look undersized, but 19" ZCP-type wheels look good because of the design.
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      02-25-2014, 10:29 AM   #3
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Although the 'standard' 19" F8x wheels look really good, 20's would be a lot better visually.
Can't go wrong with 20" HRE's! Do it!
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      02-25-2014, 10:38 AM   #4
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Thanks all !
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      02-25-2014, 01:06 PM   #5
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What do you guys think of 19's in front and 20's in the back ?
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      02-25-2014, 02:53 PM   #6
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No way I would put 20s on this car. All show no go!
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      02-25-2014, 03:56 PM   #7
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No way I would put 20s on this car. All show no go!
People aren't 'all GO' on the streets and nobody uses 20's at the track, so the "All Show, No Go" comments aren't really appropriate here (..and depending on the weight of the wheels, there may not be much difference between a 19" and 20" wheel to begin with). Boulevard cruising, commuting, stoplight racing and the occasional back road romps are where majority of these ///M3's spend their time.

From an aesthetic and admittedly subjective standpoint, the F-Series cars look better on 20's.
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      02-26-2014, 07:15 AM   #8
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People aren't 'all GO' on the streets and nobody uses 20's at the track, so the "All Show, No Go" comments aren't really appropriate here (..and depending on the weight of the wheels, there may not be much difference between a 19" and 20" wheel to begin with). Boulevard cruising, commuting, stoplight racing and the occasional back road romps are where majority of these ///M3's spend their time.

From an aesthetic and admittedly subjective standpoint, the F-Series cars look better on 20's.
We'll just have to agree to disagree on that part. I guess the wheels really only hurt you performance wise if they have an overall higher circumference or weigh more.
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      02-26-2014, 01:04 PM   #9
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Was going through the photoshop thread, at its hard for me to tell, but I think most of those are 19"s ??

Question is whether 20" HRE's would look too big on this car.. I assume that 20"s are easier to bend on the crap Boston roads too.
im in boston and if i get an m# i deff want to put 20's on it i think itll look perfect and aggressive
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      02-27-2014, 11:52 AM   #10
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I think 20" is a must on these newer chassis.


Here is my F30 in 2012 on 20" HRE P43sc.

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      02-27-2014, 12:27 PM   #11
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I think 20" is a must on these newer chassis.


Here is my F30 in 2012 on 20" HRE P43sc.
IMO (and not bagging on your car) those look like wheels for a show car not performance. I think 19s will look much more aggressive. Hell I may even get some of those lame tires w/ white lettering like in GTA V lol.
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20's are definitely not too big for any F car. My problem with them is weight. Even if the 20 inch wheel is only a pound or so heavier than a 19 inch wheel, the 20 inch tire will also be heavier than a 19 inch tire (apples to apples, same brand/model tire).

So overall there is always a weight penalty with 20's, even with the most exotic lightweight wheel. They look fantastic, but weight is the enemy.
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      02-27-2014, 04:29 PM   #13
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IMO (and not bagging on your car) those look like wheels for a show car not performance. I think 19s will look much more aggressive. Hell I may even get some of those lame tires w/ white lettering like in GTA V lol.
It's a road car......


....and most ///M's are road cars.
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It's a road car......


....and most ///M's are road cars.
So you cant have a performance looking car on the road? I don't get your point. Sorry you just cruise around in your M.
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      02-27-2014, 04:57 PM   #15
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So you cant have a performance looking car on the road? I don't get your point. Sorry you just cruise around in your M.
You're missing my point. My intention is not to come off antagonistic, but you continue to make comments about performance, "all show and no go", etc. for cars that will spend 99.9% of their time on surface streets and freeways (..driving conditions where the differences in performance between various wheels sizes will not be felt, or will be marginal at best). 'Performance' in the manner that we generally speak of on the forum (..i.e...road cource/track) is not applicable here because nobody will take their 20" wheels to the track, and you won't be driving 10/10th's on the street.

...and yeah, I do just cruise around in my ///M just like the large majority of the population. When I do choose to go to the track there are wheels and tires for track duty (..although I prefer tracking/racing on 2 wheels rather than 4)

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IMO (and not bagging on your car) those look like wheels for a show car not performance. I think 19s will look much more aggressive. Hell I may even get some of those lame tires w/ white lettering like in GTA V lol.
The OP simply asked how they would look. I'm just showing how it will look. My offset is way too aggressive for performance anyways. But I bet with the proper offset these 20" wheels would probably out handle most of the 19" wheels out there. These wheels weigh about 23lbs. Not too bad for 20".
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My last reply in this thread cause I just feel like I'm arguing now. I said I think 19s look more performance oriented and aggressive. So regardless of how it handles on the street or the track I think it looks more performance oriented with 19s. Even more so with 18s probably. That's just me.
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My last reply in this thread cause I just feel like I'm arguing now. I said I think 19s look more performance oriented and aggressive. So regardless of how it handles on the street or the track I think it looks more performance oriented with 19s. Even more so with 18s probably. That's just me.
I agree whole-heartedly. I like the look of aggressive rubber, not big wheels. I would even take it a step further and say that I think 18's look the best. I love the extra meaty rubber, and the smaller diameter wheels make the brakes look bigger. That's why TE37s are so popular on the e90. The lower rotational inertia, lighter weight and cheaper tire replacements of 18's are also icing on the cake.

To each his own, but as far as aesthetics go, all you have to do is look at real race cars to see what performance looks like...
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I would go with 20's for sure. Looks way better and with the right ones you can get a lighter option than the stock 19's..Add to that the increased 10mm width y as you could probably get and the handling would be better as well as the look imo
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I agree whole-heartedly. I like the look of aggressive rubber, not big wheels. I would even take it a step further and say that I think 18's look the best. I love the extra meaty rubber, and the smaller diameter wheels make the brakes look bigger. That's why TE37s are so popular on the e90. The lower rotational inertia, lighter weight and cheaper tire replacements of 18's are also icing on the cake.

To each his own, but as far as aesthetics go, all you have to do is look at real race cars to see what performance looks like...

That is an apples to oranges comparison. You know better than that Brosef. We aren't driving "real race cars". That's like comparing my track/race built bikes to a GP bike; the latter being as one-off/bespoke as a professional race car.
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      02-27-2014, 09:32 PM   #21
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That is an apples to oranges comparison. You know better than that Brosef. We aren't driving "real race cars". That's like comparing my track/race built bikes to a GP bike; the latter being as one-off/bespoke as a professional race car.
I never drew any comparison. all I said was that a car with more rubber (i.e. 18's and even 19's) has the look of purpose since that's in fact what the race cars are using. you don't have to drive a real race car to want a wheel/tire that performs better and, to me, looks better:



I never said that you're driving a race car because of it, but the pros are stacked significantly in favor of 18's.

- lighter
- lower rotational inertia
- extra sidewall provides smoother ride
- less likely to damage a wheel on rough pavement

therefore, I don't see any concessions or reason not to get 18's, since I prefer the look anyway. conversely, the only argument I see for 20's is that they look better to some people (not to me). if I'm missing something, please correct me. looks are, of course, subjective. different strokes for different folks. maybe we'll see someone sack up and put some dub pimpstars on an M.

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I will only do 19" looks better than 20" IMO, much more aggressive!
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