Report: V2.02 on track

leftcoastman · 11-12-2007, 12:45 PM

As promised:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...86#post1672386

Sorry, it was a bit more track related, so I posted it in the tracking forum. Some tidbits for you straightline guys, however. Enjoy!

Boostin335 · 11-12-2007, 12:49 PM

when did you get it/ how did you get it?

CleanAudi · 11-12-2007, 12:51 PM

I'm probably missing something, is v2.0.2 out? All I am seeing is v2.0.1

e.n335 · 11-12-2007, 01:06 PM

Thank you for posting

- How many hours did you track the car ?
- Did you change the V2 torque settings ?

I know the limp mode when changing to lower octane gas. It occured with v1.x as well.

- Eugen

e.n335 · 11-12-2007, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CleanAudi

I'm probably missing something, is v2.0.2 out? All I am seeing is v2.0.1

v2.0.2beta is tested by a couple of users right now. It should be released soon.

- Eugen

leftcoastman · 11-12-2007, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e.n335

Thank you for posting

- How many hours did you track the car ?
- Did you change the V2 torque settings ?

I know the limp mode when changing to lower octane gas. It occured with v1.x as well.

- Eugen

4.5 total hours of track time.

100% all the way, baby.

e.n335 · 11-12-2007, 01:26 PM

Good test ... and a great race ! Thanks again.

- Eugen

e90AW335i · 11-12-2007, 01:39 PM

.....nice!

DrDomer · 11-12-2007, 04:21 PM

Leftcoastman... Do you have an upgraded oil cooler? Where did you get it? Cost? Have you changed the type of oil you run? Do you have an FMIC?

Great report! You think you could hang with the new M3 with this setup?

leftcoastman · 11-12-2007, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrDomer

Leftcoastman... Do you have an upgraded oil cooler? Where did you get it? Cost? Have you changed the type of oil you run? Do you have an FMIC?

Great report! You think you could hang with the new M3 with this setup?

Stock oil cooler. Stock FMIC. Valvoline Synpower 5w40. don't think the oil made a difference on the oil temps. It was the cooler ambients. I'd probably still have trouble in 95+ degree ambients. Oh and by the way, my terminal speeds on the straights did not decrease as the session went along, indicating that the stock FMIC was sufficient.

The steptronics that were driven by advanced guys were getting limp'a'dimp almost instantaneously from the coolant temps. They were reporting 285 or so oil temps, so it must have been coolant that caused them to have 5 minute run sessions. I'd be so pissed.

I think given a similar driver, on race rubber, I'd lay waste to the new M3. If he's on race rubber too, I wouldn't be so sure. If he's good, I'm dead because I ain't exactly Schumaker. But it comes down to the driver.

As the 800+hp Viper proved, straightline speed doesn't make up for lack of driver skill in the corners.

jerrym · 11-12-2007, 04:38 PM

:x 2.02!

335iheLLraiseR · 11-12-2007, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leftcoastman

4.5 total hours of track time.

100% all the way, baby.

lucky bastard...but congrats though!

Boostin335 · 11-12-2007, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leftcoastman

4.5 total hours of track time.

100% all the way, baby.

thats great news 100% all the way... i dont think anyone on 2.0 or 2.01 were able to do that without getting limp mode.

jerrym · 11-12-2007, 05:29 PM

^^ limp mode? on 4.5 hour of track?

leftcoastman · 11-12-2007, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerrym

^^ limp mode? on 4.5 hour of track?

Huh?

One limp, as described, based on radical drop in octane. 4.5 hours on track is probably 4.2 hours on full boost/throttle. 0.2 hours on threshold braking and 0.1 hours on part throttle.

Ouch.

Boostin335 · 11-12-2007, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leftcoastman

Huh?

One limp, as described, based on radical drop in octane. 4.5 hours on track is probably 4.2 hours on full boost/throttle. 0.2 hours on threshold braking and 0.1 hours on part throttle.

Ouch.

yeah no idea what jerrym is saying or referring to..

e92law · 11-12-2007, 06:26 PM

So when will we be able to get 2.02? Come on Shiv baby.

DrDomer · 11-12-2007, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leftcoastman

Stock oil cooler. Stock FMIC. Valvoline Synpower 5w40. don't think the oil made a difference on the oil temps. It was the cooler ambients. I'd probably still have trouble in 95+ degree ambients. Oh and by the way, my terminal speeds on the straights did not decrease as the session went along, indicating that the stock FMIC was sufficient.

The steptronics that were driven by advanced guys were getting limp'a'dimp almost instantaneously from the coolant temps. They were reporting 285 or so oil temps, so it must have been coolant that caused them to have 5 minute run sessions. I'd be so pissed.

I think given a similar driver, on race rubber, I'd lay waste to the new M3. If he's on race rubber too, I wouldn't be so sure. If he's good, I'm dead because I ain't exactly Schumaker. But it comes down to the driver.

As the 800+hp Viper proved, straightline speed doesn't make up for lack of driver skill in the corners.

That's awesome. I've only tracked a 335i sedan auto (I have an 335 auto coupe), and we got temps to 295F in 85F temps this summer after hotlapping for 20 mins at a time with 3 min breaks over 1 1/2hrs. No limp. I will say it's pretty hot in the car when you have to blare the heat and defroster to keep temps down.

Shiv's testing at Bathurst was with upgraded oil cooler so it was important to hear that you are stock. Not sure, but it seems the manuals run cooler. I hear it has to do with the mixing of engine and tranny cooling on the autos. Anyway, great to hear your experience. Stock setup with runflats and the car does push a bit. Sounds like the rear sway is a good idea. These kinda reports mean more to me than 50 quarter mile times. Please keep us informed when the season starts next year!

leftcoastman · 11-12-2007, 06:45 PM

Yowzas! 85ambient and you're blasting the heat? Something is wrong there, lol. But yeah, good thing you blasted the heat. The AUTO limps because of coolant temps, not oil temps. My buddies limped while showing 285 on the oil gauge. No warning of coolant overheat till ya get the lovely DING of limp mode.

I haven't decided if the H&R is good or bad. It helps the rear stay flat but causes serious serious wheelspin. FAR more than stock. Maybe a 15-16mm would be ok, but the 20mm is too much.

An LSD may solve wheelspin but then you will likely power oversteer at the drop of a hat. Most drivers, myself included, probably shouldn't be on that edge.

OpenFlash · 11-12-2007, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leftcoastman

An LSD may solve wheelspin but then you will likely power oversteer at the drop of a hat. Most drivers, myself included, probably shouldn't be on that edge.

It's a very soft edge with the 335. The car does everything BUT quick transitions. Never scary with an LSD. Just more fun

shiv

leftcoastman · 11-12-2007, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

It's a very soft edge with the 335. The car does everything BUT quick transitions. Never scary with an LSD. Just more fun

shiv

Nah, I was talking about with the H&R sway and LSD. Mid-corner, with a really really light inside rear, overpowering the outside rear would throw you in a tailspin real quick.

If I get the LSD, I'll probably remove the H&R. Anyone wanna buy a thick rear sway? Makes for good street drivin' !

!Xoible · 11-12-2007, 06:58 PM

sway bars make a day and night difference on the car. you will notice a HUGE difference when you get ur front sways on

i havent tried one with LSD.

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DrDomer Major 39 Rep 1,349 Posts Drives: 2004 330ci ZHP, 1999 Miata Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Iowa iTrader: (0)	Leftcoastman... Do you have an upgraded oil cooler? Where did you get it? Cost? Have you changed the type of oil you run? Do you have an FMIC? Great report! You think you could hang with the new M3 with this setup? __________________ Any man who can drive safely while kissing a pretty girl is simply not giving the kiss the attention it deserves. ~Albert Einstein
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leftcoastman Lieutenant Colonel 52 Rep 1,714 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Near some canyons iTrader: (1)	Yowzas! 85ambient and you're blasting the heat? Something is wrong there, lol. But yeah, good thing you blasted the heat. The AUTO limps because of coolant temps, not oil temps. My buddies limped while showing 285 on the oil gauge. No warning of coolant overheat till ya get the lovely DING of limp mode. I haven't decided if the H&R is good or bad. It helps the rear stay flat but causes serious serious wheelspin. FAR more than stock. Maybe a 15-16mm would be ok, but the 20mm is too much. An LSD may solve wheelspin but then you will likely power oversteer at the drop of a hat. Most drivers, myself included, probably shouldn't be on that edge.
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