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      11-09-2007, 10:27 PM   #1
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which brand and grade synthetic motor oil does the 335 use?

looking to do an oil change soon... and want to do it before the BMW free change
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      11-09-2007, 10:48 PM   #2
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almost all turbo cars typically use any standard fully synthetic 5w-30... 10w-30 is a little safer, especially for cold starts. mobil 1 burns pretty fast. royal purple is pretty good, as well as the standard BMW branded synthetic made by castrol. but i always use motul.... except for on the M Coupe since it calls for the Castrol TWS Motorsport 10W-60... and the only other brand i know that makes a 10W-60 is a japanese brand called fusion and its like insanely expensive.
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335i will call for any synthetic oil with the BMWLL01 or BMWLL04 rating.

Examples are:
- BMW High Performance Synthetic 5W30
- Castrol Syntec 0W30 (not 5W30 in North America!)
- Mobil1 0W40
- Amsoil European Formula 5W40
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Mobil1 0W40

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335i will call for any synthetic oil with the BMWLL01 or BMWLL04 rating.

Examples are:
- BMW High Performance Synthetic 5W30
- Castrol Syntec 0W30 (not 5W30 in North America!)
- Mobil1 0W40
- Amsoil European Formula 5W40
Mobil1 0W40 easy to find; 4000 miles on an oil change and 0 burn (use)...
Very hoppy 335 with Mobil 1 0-40W.
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Thanks guys... I'll most likely go with one of these...
- Castrol Syntec 0W30
- Mobil1 0W40

will these be ok for cold winter starts in NY?
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Thanks guys... I'll most likely go with one of these...
- Castrol Syntec 0W30
- Mobil1 0W40

will these be ok for cold winter starts in NY?
Absolutey. The lower the first number, the easier it pumps through the lines while cold. Very good stuff. My personal preference is Mobil1 as I have no experience with Castrol.
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Absolutey. The lower the first number, the easier it pumps through the lines while cold. Very good stuff. My personal preference is Mobil1 as I have no experience with Castrol.
+1.

I was running Mobil1 0W40 last winter and had a number of -30 degrees celius starts with no problems.

I am now running the Syntec 0W30 and my car seems to like it... haven't had any really cold starts yet this year.

Both have very cold pour points (like -52 degrees Celsius for the Mobil and something like -48 Celsius for the Castrol).

Both are top notch products from my experience with each... the car does seem to get slightly better fuel economy with the Castrol Syntec, I should mention.
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I run Mobil1 in all of my cars. In the 335i I run Mobil1 0w40.
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      11-10-2007, 06:23 PM   #9
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how many quarts does the 335i motor take?
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how many quarts does the 335i motor take?
Most European cars are measured in Litres, the 335i needs 6.5 Litres. About 7 Quarts....
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wow 7 quarts... thats a lot My 5.0 Liter mustang used 5 quarts.... granted it didnt have a turbo system that probably needs to be lubricated
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      11-10-2007, 06:55 PM   #12
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wow 7 quarts... thats a lot My 5.0 Liter mustang used 5 quarts.... granted it didnt have a turbo system that probably needs to be lubricated
really? my S2000 was 5.5 and my 330ci was right at 6 if i remember correctly... i just did a quick search on google and came up with that. that seems like a lot but i wouldn't be surprised since high revving cars and turbo cars tend to burn oil easily, and to add fuel to the fire, i think you could safely consider the 335i a relatively high revving turbo.... 7 quarts wouldn't surprise me at all... the easiest way to find out is to look in your manual. i'd bet you an oil change it's in there.
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cool thanks again for the info....
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Thanks guys... I'll most likely go with one of these...
- Castrol Syntec 0W30
- Mobil1 0W40

will these be ok for cold winter starts in NY?
Actually I believe the only oils that meet BMW’s specifications for the 335i are the Castrol 5w30, the version that BMW sells and the Mobile1 0w40. Before using anything other than oil from BMW I would call the number on the sticker under the hood of your car and check with BMW for product specs.

I have used Mobil1 for years, however when I read the specs. For the 335i it sounds like the only Mobil1 product that will do is the 0w40.

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Just buy whats recommended by BMW for the car. Buy the oil and filter from your dealer and your good to go. My last 2 cars were turbos and i used what the manufacturer recommended,Mobil 1 10w30 for all year around use. When i do my first oil change i will get the oil and filter from the dealer,(BMW).
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Actually I believe the only oils that meet BMW’s specifications for the 335i are the Castrol 5w30, the version that BMW sells and the Mobile1 0w40. Before using anything other than oil from BMW I would call the number on the sticker under the hood of your car and check with BMW for product specs.

I have used Mobil1 for years, however when I read the specs. For the 335i it sounds like the only Mobil1 product that will do is the 0w40.

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THis is not correct with regards to Castol Syntec 5W30... in North America, anyway. In North America, Syntec 5W30 is a Group III formula and IS NOT BMW LL01 approved.

On the other hand, Castrol Syntec 0W30 sold in North America is BMWLL01 approved. Mobil1 0W40 is also BMWLL01 approved (5W30 Mobil1 is not BMWLL01, nor is 10W30).
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I just found out there is a Motul that meets BMW specs, it's a 5w-30. ideally, i would use that... http://www.hmsmotorsport.com/store/f...motul-spec-oil
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I just found out there is a Motul that meets BMW specs, it's a 5w-30. ideally, i would use that... http://www.hmsmotorsport.com/store/f...motul-spec-oil
Motul LL-04 5W40 is supposed to come out in about a month, thats for Canada anyways. Might already be available in the US.
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All the dealerships (At least around here) say Castrol SYNTEC 5w30 Full Synthetic is the exact oil they use except theirs is package BMW... It's what i use when I do mine. in the US that is if it matters
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