Pro Nav, No EBT

AdamW · 12-17-2013, 05:43 AM

Hi Guys

I'm sure someone has answered this in the past , but after loads of searching i cannot for the life of me find the thread.

I picked up my F30 yesterday that has pro nav, but no EBT and I wanted to know if and how i get get emails (from an exchange server) and text messages working through i-drive

I have an iphone 5S running latest IOS and connect to the car via the apple cable

help!

thanks in advance

F30AM · 12-17-2013, 06:06 AM

Here you go:
http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=919384
http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=918897

It appears that with the new touchpad iDrive, you'll need EBT. The older ones did not need it. So much for progress.

Rich9600 · 12-17-2013, 06:28 AM

My understanding is that a long press of the voice control button will connect with Siri. Ask Siri to read out your message.

It works on my bog standard E90, though I have to do a long press of the phones home button to get Siri through the cars basic Bluetooth.

Steve_M_Sport · 12-17-2013, 06:33 AM

I wouldn't bother with the text/email connectivity with Pro Nav- it is simpler to look at your phone when you are parked.

F30AM · 12-17-2013, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve_M_Sport

I wouldn't bother with the text/email connectivity with Pro Nav- it is simpler to look at your phone when you are parked.

Mine reads out texts and emails. Brilliant!

Pablo68 · 12-17-2013, 07:11 AM

Don't take this the wrong way but is reading/writing texts and emails while driving a good idea?

Instant communications eh? I remember when....

ll71 · 12-17-2013, 08:11 AM

You can't read the emails, it doesn't let you. Dragon Dictate instead reads the emails out to you. You can then respond to the email by simply talking to the car. It's breathtaking how good it is too, I've been using it loads.

It's not really any different to using the phone or the stereo in your car. It's a marvellous addition and really sets BMW apart from any of the other systems I've tried.

Basically, yes, you need EBT, or you need to code it aftermarket to get Emails in the car. The other way is to use Connected Office via Gmail accounts with your work email forwarded to your Gmail account. However, this is pretty clunky and EBT is the way forward.

mproudfoot · 12-17-2013, 08:39 AM

I have the NBT nav with (added via coding) EBT and honestly, the SMS and Email feature is pretty clunky - sms is okay - you can at least read those (though still requires a few button presses) but email is variable depending on your phone. As someone else mentioned, I find Siri Eyes Free to be far more convenient, enbaling me to just hold the talk button and ask it to read out my last message, last email or even compose a new message/email. The only caveat with that is that it requires a decent data signal to work properly.

ll71 · 12-17-2013, 08:57 AM

With pro nav, you can split the screen and view your emails coming in on the left, and your sat nav/stereo/etc on the right. Emails pop in, you click the controller twice and hey presto your car reads out your email through the stereo. Couldn't be easier. You can also code a shortcut onto one of the 1-8 shortcut buttons and access Office Today with one press. I love mine and it's awesome for anyone who has to make use of their day whilst driving for hours. It's certainly much less distracting than browsing your music library for example.

I suspect that depending on phone implementation, you get certain features, some of which transform the experience. Mine is Android 4.2.2 and works perfectly, however not all phones are alike even on Android so use the BMW compatibility checker.

venkata · 12-17-2013, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ll71

With pro nav, you can split the screen and view your emails coming in on the left, and your sat nav/stereo/etc on the right. Emails pop in, you click the controller twice and hey presto your car reads out your email through the stereo. Couldn't be easier. You can also code a shortcut onto one of the 1-8 shortcut buttons and access Office Today with one press. I love mine and it's awesome for anyone who has to make use of their day whilst driving for hours. It's certainly much less distracting than browsing your music library for example.

I suspect that depending on phone implementation, you get certain features, some of which transform the experience. Mine is Android 4.2.2 and works perfectly, however not all phones are alike even on Android so use the BMW compatibility checker.

Use mine exactly like this.. Shortcut key makes it so much easier to read texts / emails. Works on my iPhone 5....

AdamW · 12-17-2013, 05:04 PM

Thanks for all the advice, appreciate it

Sounds like I either need to go down the coding route myself (Xmas project?) or find a local member and exchange beer tokens

ll71 · 12-17-2013, 05:18 PM

Hi Adam, if you want to DIY you'll need a coding cable from ebay and the links to download e-sys and the data file from Shawn Sheridan on here. I'm a 'techy' and to be honest I found it a bit iffy to config the car myself and had Shawn remote config the car for me instead. If you're struggling with doing this, drop me a PM and we can have a chat, I'm in West Sussex so not a million miles away if you need any advice.

Alamat · 12-18-2013, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by venkata

Use mine exactly like this.. Shortcut key makes it so much easier to read texts / emails. Works on my iPhone 5....

Not hijacking the thread but does pics on your contacts show up when someone calls or texts you? I'm using an Iphone 4s and I did try my son's 5 but still no go?

venkata · 12-18-2013, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alamat

Not hijacking the thread but does pics on your contacts show up when someone calls or texts you? I'm using an Iphone 4s and I did try my son's 5 but still no go?

Not on the car screen no...

ll71 · 12-18-2013, 04:22 PM

Yes, it does on my Sony Xperia running Android 4.2.2.

DazC · 12-19-2013, 02:08 AM

Sorry to hijack but what does Shaun need in order to remotely code your car?

ll71 · 12-19-2013, 11:02 AM

Laptop with Windows & Wifi
Wifi connection to the car
E-Sys software loaded on the laptop
PSZD whatever it's called data software on the laptop
A BMW OBD coding cable off Ebay
Try connecting to your car via the cable and e-sys software.

Shawn will give you the download links to the software. You'll need an app like DownloadItAll on your broswer to batch download all the files, otherwise you'll be there weeks. You can download the abbreviated data file BTW, if all you're doing is coding EBT.

If you ask nicely he may or may not code the car for you, or you can DIY it if you're brave. You'll need WiFi out by your car as he will connect via a Desktop sharing site. Try a Wifi range extender from PC World if you're struggling to get signal to the driveway.

It would be a darn site easier if BMW would a) tell us to use Email you need EBT and b) offer to retrofit it, which I'm told they won't/can't do.

12-17-2013, 05:43 AM	#1
AdamW First Lieutenant 59 Rep 339 Posts Drives: F90 M5 LCI Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Hampshire iTrader: (0)	Pro Nav, No EBT - email/texts? Hi Guys I'm sure someone has answered this in the past , but after loads of searching i cannot for the life of me find the thread. I picked up my F30 yesterday that has pro nav, but no EBT and I wanted to know if and how i get get emails (from an exchange server) and text messages working through i-drive I have an iphone 5S running latest IOS and connect to the car via the apple cable help! thanks in advance
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F30AM Major General 709 Rep 5,021 Posts Drives: F30 330d M Sport sDrive Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: London, UK iTrader: (0)	Here you go: http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=919384 http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=918897 It appears that with the new touchpad iDrive, you'll need EBT. The older ones did not need it. So much for progress. __________________ Previous: Superman 330d sDrive M Sport + Toys Present: Red Tornado Golf 7R 5 Dr, DSG + Toys
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Rich9600 Colonel 741 Rep 2,511 Posts Drives: i4 M50 Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	My understanding is that a long press of the voice control button will connect with Siri. Ask Siri to read out your message. It works on my bog standard E90, though I have to do a long press of the phones home button to get Siri through the cars basic Bluetooth. __________________ Driving i4 M50 (G26) Previous 340i Touring MSport (F31)
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Steve_M_Sport Lieutenant Colonel 614 Rep 1,799 Posts Drives: U06 230e Active Tourer Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Leicestershire iTrader: (0)	I wouldn't bother with the text/email connectivity with Pro Nav- it is simpler to look at your phone when you are parked. __________________ U06 230e Active Tourer \| Previous : 2019 F31 340i : 2017 F31 335D M-Sport
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Pablo68 Left the building 185 Rep 1,608 Posts Drives: Not a diesel. Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Petrol Heaven iTrader: (0)	Don't take this the wrong way but is reading/writing texts and emails while driving a good idea? Instant communications eh? I remember when....
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ll71 Private First Class 7 Rep 171 Posts Drives: F30 320D xDrive M Sport Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: GB iTrader: (0)	You can't read the emails, it doesn't let you. Dragon Dictate instead reads the emails out to you. You can then respond to the email by simply talking to the car. It's breathtaking how good it is too, I've been using it loads. It's not really any different to using the phone or the stereo in your car. It's a marvellous addition and really sets BMW apart from any of the other systems I've tried. Basically, yes, you need EBT, or you need to code it aftermarket to get Emails in the car. The other way is to use Connected Office via Gmail accounts with your work email forwarded to your Gmail account. However, this is pretty clunky and EBT is the way forward.
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mproudfoot Second Lieutenant 7 Rep 227 Posts Drives: 320d F31 M Sport Join Date: May 2013 Location: Helensburgh, Scotland iTrader: (0)	I have the NBT nav with (added via coding) EBT and honestly, the SMS and Email feature is pretty clunky - sms is okay - you can at least read those (though still requires a few button presses) but email is variable depending on your phone. As someone else mentioned, I find Siri Eyes Free to be far more convenient, enbaling me to just hold the talk button and ask it to read out my last message, last email or even compose a new message/email. The only caveat with that is that it requires a decent data signal to work properly.
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ll71 Private First Class 7 Rep 171 Posts Drives: F30 320D xDrive M Sport Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: GB iTrader: (0)	With pro nav, you can split the screen and view your emails coming in on the left, and your sat nav/stereo/etc on the right. Emails pop in, you click the controller twice and hey presto your car reads out your email through the stereo. Couldn't be easier. You can also code a shortcut onto one of the 1-8 shortcut buttons and access Office Today with one press. I love mine and it's awesome for anyone who has to make use of their day whilst driving for hours. It's certainly much less distracting than browsing your music library for example. I suspect that depending on phone implementation, you get certain features, some of which transform the experience. Mine is Android 4.2.2 and works perfectly, however not all phones are alike even on Android so use the BMW compatibility checker.
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AdamW First Lieutenant 59 Rep 339 Posts Drives: F90 M5 LCI Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Hampshire iTrader: (0)	Thanks for all the advice, appreciate it Sounds like I either need to go down the coding route myself (Xmas project?) or find a local member and exchange beer tokens
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ll71 Private First Class 7 Rep 171 Posts Drives: F30 320D xDrive M Sport Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: GB iTrader: (0)	Hi Adam, if you want to DIY you'll need a coding cable from ebay and the links to download e-sys and the data file from Shawn Sheridan on here. I'm a 'techy' and to be honest I found it a bit iffy to config the car myself and had Shawn remote config the car for me instead. If you're struggling with doing this, drop me a PM and we can have a chat, I'm in West Sussex so not a million miles away if you need any advice.
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ll71 Private First Class 7 Rep 171 Posts Drives: F30 320D xDrive M Sport Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: GB iTrader: (0)	Yes, it does on my Sony Xperia running Android 4.2.2.
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DazC Colonel 905 Rep 2,651 Posts Drives: M4 Comp Pack Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Scotland iTrader: (0) Garage List 2016 M4 Comp Pack [0.00]	Sorry to hijack but what does Shaun need in order to remotely code your car?
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ll71 Private First Class 7 Rep 171 Posts Drives: F30 320D xDrive M Sport Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: GB iTrader: (0)	Laptop with Windows & Wifi Wifi connection to the car E-Sys software loaded on the laptop PSZD whatever it's called data software on the laptop A BMW OBD coding cable off Ebay Try connecting to your car via the cable and e-sys software. Shawn will give you the download links to the software. You'll need an app like DownloadItAll on your broswer to batch download all the files, otherwise you'll be there weeks. You can download the abbreviated data file BTW, if all you're doing is coding EBT. If you ask nicely he may or may not code the car for you, or you can DIY it if you're brave. You'll need WiFi out by your car as he will connect via a Desktop sharing site. Try a Wifi range extender from PC World if you're struggling to get signal to the driveway. It would be a darn site easier if BMW would a) tell us to use Email you need EBT and b) offer to retrofit it, which I'm told they won't/can't do.
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