4 Series

Christos · 11-10-2013, 04:50 PM

Why is there is a HUGE cavernous space between the hood edge and the windshield. This area was 4 inches deep of leaves and pine needles at one of the dealerships. Why couldn't BMW design this differently for a more tailored refined look? This large gap also housed a little pool of water in each? You can also see all the mechanics of the wiper blades. The gap on my S4 is about 1 inch and after 3 years I have never picked leaves from it. And yes this is nitpicking to the extreme

Matts435coupe · 11-10-2013, 05:02 PM

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I went to a couple dealers looking at the 4 series today, here in NJ all dealers are closed. I noticed a couple design cues I'm not crazy about

1.) There is a HUGE cavernous space between the hood edge and the windshield. This area was 4 inches deep of leaves and pine needles at one of the dealerships. Why couldn't BMW design this differently for a more tailored refined look? This large gap also housed a little pool of water in each? You can also see all the mechanics of the wiper blades. The gap on my S4 is about 1 inch and after 3 years I have never picked leaves from it.

2.) Why is the Msport front bumper so open to the elements, rocks, sticks etc. Standing directly in front of one all you see is the white/silver radiators for the engine and turbo cooler. It looks just like a big hollow space with the radiators in the back ground. I wouldn't mind so much if the radiators were painted black.

I have to say I'm not totally impressed with BMW's design team.

So does that mean you won't be taking delivery of your ordered car?

Christos · 11-10-2013, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Matts335coupe

So does that mean you won't be taking delivery of your ordered car?

Why you want it

Sedan_Clan · 11-10-2013, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Christos

I went to a couple dealers looking at the 4 series today, here in NJ all dealers are closed. I noticed a couple design cues I'm not crazy about

1.) There is a HUGE cavernous space between the hood edge and the windshield. This area was 4 inches deep of leaves and pine needles at one of the dealerships. Why couldn't BMW design this differently for a more tailored refined look? This large gap also housed a little pool of water in each? You can also see all the mechanics of the wiper blades. The gap on my S4 is about 1 inch and after 3 years I have never picked leaves from it.

2.) Why is the Msport front bumper so open to the elements, rocks, sticks etc. Standing directly in front of one all you see is the white/silver radiators for the engine and turbo cooler. It looks just like a big hollow space with the radiators in the back ground. I wouldn't mind so much if the radiators were painted black.

I have to say I'm not totally impressed with BMW's design team.

That's the first time I've heard people complain about those things.

OC40 · 11-10-2013, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Christos

I went to a couple dealers looking at the 4 series today, here in NJ all dealers are closed. I noticed a couple design cues I'm not crazy about

1.) There is a HUGE cavernous space between the hood edge and the windshield. This area was 4 inches deep of leaves and pine needles at one of the dealerships. Why couldn't BMW design this differently for a more tailored refined look? This large gap also housed a little pool of water in each? You can also see all the mechanics of the wiper blades. The gap on my S4 is about 1 inch and after 3 years I have never picked leaves from it.

2.) Why is the Msport front bumper so open to the elements, rocks, sticks etc. Standing directly in front of one all you see is the white/silver radiators for the engine and turbo cooler. It looks just like a big hollow space with the radiators in the back ground. I wouldn't mind so much if the radiators were painted black.

I have to say I'm not totally impressed with BMW's design team.

That's the first time I've heard people complain about those things.

I was about to say the same. Plus, the MSport front is excellent.

Christos · 11-10-2013, 05:08 PM

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That's the first time I've heard people complain about those things.

Just nit picking.

Sedan_Clan · 11-10-2013, 05:09 PM

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That's the first time I've heard people complain about those things.

Just nit picking.

We all do. At this level it really comes down to nit-picking.

Matts435coupe · 11-10-2013, 05:22 PM

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Why you want it

No I have one on order myself lol. I only ask because you clearly don't like the look of the car, but have one on order. So I was a bit confused. I personally love the look of the new 4, especially with Msport!

Christos · 11-10-2013, 05:30 PM

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No I have one on order myself lol. I only ask because you clearly don't like the look of the car, but have one on order. So I was a bit confused. I personally love the look of the new 4, especially with Msport!

No car is perfect in my opinion. I do like the Msport look but would prefer some minor changes, like more screening in the bumper to hide the radiators and to prevent rocks and stones from possibly damaging them and leaves gathering up in there.

Matts435coupe · 11-10-2013, 05:32 PM

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No car is perfect in my opinion. I do like the Msport look but would prefer some minor changes, like more screening in the bumper to hide the radiators and to prevent rocks and stones from possibly damaging them and leaves gathering up in there.

Out of curiosity why didn't you go for the 435 since you are coming from an S4? Also if you don't mind me asking what was your lease deal if you are leasing or how much did you get off. Just trying to compare to what I did, not a lot of people with 4's yet. You can PM me if you are willing to tell me and want to keep it private.

Thanks

Christos · 11-10-2013, 05:46 PM

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Out of curiosity why didn't you go for the 435 since you are coming from an S4? Also if you don't mind me asking what was your lease deal if you are leasing or how much did you get off. Just trying to compare to what I did, not a lot of people with 4's yet. You can PM me if you are willing to tell me and want to keep it private.

Thanks

I have sworn off BMW's 3.0 turbos, had a terrible time with my 2008 E92 335i. Posted many times about it on multiple forums. I've found that modern 4 cylinders are more entertaining by the sole fact that you can and have to drive them harder. I also think they are more neutrally balanced and provide a better ride. Neutral balance is way underrated. Better mpg is always accepted too. Sorry I'm purchasing so no lease info.

sizquik · 11-10-2013, 06:18 PM

Can you please share your design portfolio with us as well? Actual production work isn't necessary, conceptual work is fine.

IM2C · 11-10-2013, 06:44 PM

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I have to say I'm not totally impressed with BMW's design team.

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Originally Posted by Christos

No car is perfect in my opinion.

Now you got me confused.:

turbolag · 11-10-2013, 06:56 PM

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Now you got me confused.:

He's saying that despite no car being perfect, he's disappointed in BMW's team.

Or that he's disappointed in the design, but no car is perfect so its forgiven.

Deleted853 · 11-10-2013, 06:57 PM

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Now you got me confused.:

doh

EHDEN · 11-10-2013, 07:08 PM

talk about nit picking to the t! wow. please give up your order. I hear Toyota has some sick cars for you.

Christos · 11-10-2013, 07:42 PM

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talk about nit picking to the t! wow. please give up your order. I hear Toyota has some sick cars for you.

Lol, I already have a Toyota tacoma for weekend trips to Home Depot, love it!

64-bit · 11-10-2013, 09:12 PM

I own a 13 335i and I share your pain, really poor design and btw the leafs manage to get into the engine compartment as well, it sucks, my e90 was not that bad.

I will share pics tomorrow, it was about time to someone start this tread, thank you

Sedan_Clan · 11-10-2013, 09:23 PM

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I own a 13 335i and I share your pain, really poor design and btw the leafs manage to get into the engine compartment as well, it sucks, my e90 was not that bad.

I will share pics tomorrow, it was about time to someone start this tread, thank you

Leaves made it into the E9X engine compartment just as much. It's not just the F-Series.

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Christos Captain 189 Rep 609 Posts Drives: 2019 Z4 s3.0 Msport Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Central, NJ iTrader: (0)	4 Series Why is there is a HUGE cavernous space between the hood edge and the windshield. This area was 4 inches deep of leaves and pine needles at one of the dealerships. Why couldn't BMW design this differently for a more tailored refined look? This large gap also housed a little pool of water in each? You can also see all the mechanics of the wiper blades. The gap on my S4 is about 1 inch and after 3 years I have never picked leaves from it. And yes this is nitpicking to the extreme __________________ 2019 Z4 sDrive 30i Msport, Previously owned BMWs, 2014 428i Msport, 2008 335i Coupe, 2007 328xi sedan, 2002 325i sedan 1996 318ti (loved this little car) Last edited by Christos; 12-22-2013 at 08:47 PM..
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64-bit Major 309 Rep 1,086 Posts Drives: 19 Ford Raptor - On Order Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Boston, MA iTrader: (1)	I own a 13 335i and I share your pain, really poor design and btw the leafs manage to get into the engine compartment as well, it sucks, my e90 was not that bad. I will share pics tomorrow, it was about time to someone start this tread, thank you __________________ 2016 M3, Mineral White, SO Leather, MANUAL - ED 11/26/2015 2013 335i, Blue, M-Sport, Auto w/Sport Trans - ED 06/10/2013
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