Has anyone been sailing yet?

browellm · 11-08-2013, 10:50 AM

Has anyone with an MY2014 car noticed "sail mode" actually kick-in yet?

I've done a fair few motorway miles with Eco-Pro on and I can't actually discern anything happening. I'm keeping an eye on the rev counter but it seems to hover around 1200rpm with my foot off the accelerator , exactly the same as in Comfort mode.

SomeRandomer123 · 11-08-2013, 10:59 AM

You'll hear this audible alert when Sail-Mode is active and in operation:

JohnM · 11-08-2013, 11:35 AM

Never use Eco Pro so would not know

Englishbloke · 11-08-2013, 12:38 PM

Use EcoPro most of the time, done 3.5k miles with lots of motorway and never had anything tell me I'm sailing. Not sure it works tbh?

ukbeemerboy · 11-08-2013, 01:10 PM

It probably is working, the fact you can't detect it is exactly how it should be....

mproudfoot · 11-08-2013, 01:33 PM

Likewise, unless I have an open road and want to have some fun, I have mine in Eco Pro most of the time and I can't say I've every noticed it but then, I would expect that to be the case - it should be transparent.

PurpleTT · 11-08-2013, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeRandomer123

You'll hear this audible alert when Sail-Mode is active and in operation:
...

Ooh nice surprise, I did enjoy that! Quite "Athlete-ey" - my kinda stuff.

rjberry · 11-08-2013, 02:34 PM

I may be completely wrong about this, but when I was looking into Sail Mode it seems it is disabled for the UK market. I'm sure I read that somewhere and as the latest brochures don't seem to say anything about it I just assumed this must be true.

Can't see me sailing much though even if it was enabled

HiBee · 11-08-2013, 02:56 PM

Possibly it works after you switch the engine off now and again to reboot

, Just like some other things with the 3 series. Idrive & Dab freezing. PITA.

gtsussex · 11-08-2013, 03:38 PM

I certainly ain't got sail mode but I assumed that was just the 335d that didn't have it.

Defero · 11-09-2013, 05:46 AM

I have not seen sail mode working in my 325d.

JOHNBMWM5 · 11-09-2013, 06:12 AM

I used "ECO-PRO" once total wast of time, saved nothing, use a light right foot= same result.
As for sailing , sold my boat but it had a large outboard so I suppose it would not count.

Dave_3 · 11-09-2013, 06:43 AM

I noticed it clearly when test driving a 435i Xdrive. Only happened in Eco Pro mode. When you lift off it feels like you have dipped the clutch, so no engine braking effect - you are coasting.

D.

RichardJ · 11-09-2013, 06:51 AM

I've noticed that when coasting in Eco pro with foot off the gas sometimes the blue pedal warning light comes on and there's a blue arrow on the Eco pro display going all the way to the left. Surely this is the sail mode in operation?

Can't work out why else the gas pedal warning light would illuminate when my foot isn't on the gas pedal.

Boosted321 · 11-09-2013, 06:52 AM

I can definitely feel the car being held back downhill even in eco pro. Is it safe to shift to N and roll downhill with a 335d ? Someone mentioned it could damage the gearbox due to no oil flow when in neutral

Englishbloke · 11-09-2013, 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardJ

I've noticed that when coasting in Eco pro with foot off the gas sometimes the blue pedal warning light comes on and there's a blue arrow on the Eco pro display going all the way to the left. Surely this is the sail mode in operation?

Can't work out why else the gas pedal warning light would illuminate when my foot isn't on the gas pedal.

The off the gas icon appears when you are approaching a junction or lower speed limit. It's designed to give you a heads up and save fuel. That's how I understand it anyway.

Kick.doc · 11-09-2013, 09:06 AM

If the dash icon is a blue foot and pedal then I have seen it. Dual carriageway downhill. Eco pro mode foot off accelerator.
Thought I had a problem at first. lol.

matk · 11-09-2013, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kick.doc

If the dash icon is a blue foot and pedal then I have seen it. Dual carriageway downhill. Eco pro mode foot off accelerator.
Thought I had a problem at first. lol.

SO thats what it is i thought it was telling me to slow down!

ll71 · 11-09-2013, 11:28 AM

Not driven mine enough to really say, but I have it on our 911. In non-sport mode, the revs drop to idle revs, it's very weird, but it appears to work. Didn't notice the BMW doing the same today in eco-pro..

SomeRandomer123 · 11-09-2013, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boosted321

I can definitely feel the car being held back downhill even in eco pro. Is it safe to shift to N and roll downhill with a 335d ? Someone mentioned it could damage the gearbox due to no oil flow when in neutral

I've heard switching from D to N to D on the move isn't good for the transmission, but can't remember why. You can do it, but don't is the advice...

Boosted321 · 11-09-2013, 11:43 AM

OK, thanks. I wonder if sailing is enabled in other countries if it could be enabled via coding for UK models (provided there are no mechanical differences).

Kick.doc · 11-10-2013, 11:32 AM

Mine is a uk model.

11-08-2013, 10:50 AM	#1
browellm Second Lieutenant 10 Rep 258 Posts Drives: 330d Join Date: May 2013 Location: Nottingham iTrader: (0)	Has anyone been sailing yet? Has anyone with an MY2014 car noticed "sail mode" actually kick-in yet? I've done a fair few motorway miles with Eco-Pro on and I can't actually discern anything happening. I'm keeping an eye on the rev counter but it seems to hover around 1200rpm with my foot off the accelerator , exactly the same as in Comfort mode. __________________ F31 330d Luxury \| Mineral White \| Cohiba Brown Individual Leather \| Prof Media \| Vis pack \| Sun Protection Glass \| Harman Kardon \| Adaptive Suspension \| Sports Seats \| Lumbar \| Folding Mirrors \| Comfort Pack \| Heated Seats \| Coded: EBT
	Appreciate 0 Tweet Quote

11-08-2013, 10:59 AM	#2
SomeRandomer123 Colonel 307 Rep 2,612 Posts Drives: F30 328i Luxury - Sport Auto Join Date: May 2011 Location: Lancashire, North West England, UK iTrader: (0)	You'll hear this audible alert when Sail-Mode is active and in operation: __________________ Gone: 2006 BMW E60 520d SE 6MT Gone: 2009 BMW E90-LCI 330d SE 6MT Current: 2012 F30 328i Luxury 8AT On Order: 2015 Audi A6 Avant Ultra, Black Edition (sorry!)
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-08-2013, 11:35 AM	#3
JohnM Private First Class 1 Rep 185 Posts Drives: 330d M Sport PPK Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Dorset iTrader: (0)	Never use Eco Pro so would not know
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-08-2013, 12:38 PM	#4
Englishbloke Captain 254 Rep 922 Posts Drives: F30 335d TB Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Midlands, UK iTrader: (0)	Use EcoPro most of the time, done 3.5k miles with lots of motorway and never had anything tell me I'm sailing. Not sure it works tbh?
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-08-2013, 01:10 PM	#5
ukbeemerboy Beemer Heaven 462 Rep 2,941 Posts Drives: BMW M4 Competition Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Somerset UK iTrader: (0) Garage List 2018 BMW F82 M4 Comp [0.00] 2017 BMW F30 330d M ... [0.00] 2014 BMW F30 330d M ... [0.00] 2009 BMW E90 330d M ... [0.00] 2006 BMW E90 330d M ... [0.00] 2002 BMW E46 325i S ... [0.00]	It probably is working, the fact you can't detect it is exactly how it should be.... __________________ Scott 2018 BMW M4 Competition 2019 Mini Countryman Cooper S : 2008 Mini Cooper
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-08-2013, 01:33 PM	#6
mproudfoot Second Lieutenant 7 Rep 227 Posts Drives: 320d F31 M Sport Join Date: May 2013 Location: Helensburgh, Scotland iTrader: (0)	Likewise, unless I have an open road and want to have some fun, I have mine in Eco Pro most of the time and I can't say I've every noticed it but then, I would expect that to be the case - it should be transparent.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-08-2013, 02:34 PM	#8
rjberry Major 412 Rep 1,157 Posts Drives: F31 340i Ruby Red II Join Date: May 2012 Location: South Wales iTrader: (0)	I may be completely wrong about this, but when I was looking into Sail Mode it seems it is disabled for the UK market. I'm sure I read that somewhere and as the latest brochures don't seem to say anything about it I just assumed this must be true. Can't see me sailing much though even if it was enabled __________________ Current: recovering slowly Previous: F31 340i Ruby Red IIM5 Singapore Grey, F30 335d Moonstone, F30 320d Tanzanite Blue
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-08-2013, 02:56 PM	#9
HiBee Major 121 Rep 1,089 Posts Drives: F90 Comp 2019. DG & Silverston Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Edinburgh iTrader: (0)	Possibly it works after you switch the engine off now and again to reboot, Just like some other things with the 3 series. Idrive & Dab freezing. PITA.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-08-2013, 03:38 PM	#10
gtsussex Brigadier General 1854 Rep 3,983 Posts Drives: SMB M3 CP with lots of carbon Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: East Sussex iTrader: (0)	I certainly ain't got sail mode but I assumed that was just the 335d that didn't have it. __________________ San Marino Blue M3 Competition Package with Carbon tat, ACS RS suspension, uprated brakes, 'modded' exhaust and a weeny bit more power courtesy of JF Automotive; M235i Convertible with ACS Sports Suspension; Disco 5 HSE Lux
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-09-2013, 05:46 AM	#11
Defero Captain 29 Rep 626 Posts Drives: F31 325d M Sport Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: United Kingdom iTrader: (0)	I have not seen sail mode working in my 325d.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-09-2013, 06:12 AM	#12
JOHNBMWM5 Live for today tomorrow never comes 1989 Rep 9,498 Posts Drives: 2022 LCI Marina Bay Blue/ Smok Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	I used "ECO-PRO" once total wast of time, saved nothing, use a light right foot= same result. As for sailing , sold my boat but it had a large outboard so I suppose it would not count. Attached Images __________________ Live for now, life is too short. 2021 LCI M5 Marina Bay Blue/ Smoked White Leather
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-09-2013, 06:43 AM	#13
Dave_3 Brigadier General 652 Rep 3,445 Posts Drives: G22 M440D Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: CH / SCO iTrader: (0) Garage List 1973 Escort RS2000 MK1 [10.00]	I noticed it clearly when test driving a 435i Xdrive. Only happened in Eco Pro mode. When you lift off it feels like you have dipped the clutch, so no engine braking effect - you are coasting. D. __________________ Escort Mk1 RS2000 (2.1 2x44IDFS, BVH, Kent FR32, 5spd, 180 BHP) : M440D ¦ Previously : F32 435D : F32 430D M Sport sDrive, 335D E92 2006
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-09-2013, 06:51 AM	#14
RichardJ First Lieutenant 52 Rep 367 Posts Drives: X3 30d M Sport Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Surrey, United Kingdom iTrader: (0)	I've noticed that when coasting in Eco pro with foot off the gas sometimes the blue pedal warning light comes on and there's a blue arrow on the Eco pro display going all the way to the left. Surely this is the sail mode in operation? Can't work out why else the gas pedal warning light would illuminate when my foot isn't on the gas pedal.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-09-2013, 06:52 AM	#15
Boosted321 Private 1 Rep 84 Posts Drives: Xdrive 318d ish :o) Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	I can definitely feel the car being held back downhill even in eco pro. Is it safe to shift to N and roll downhill with a 335d ? Someone mentioned it could damage the gearbox due to no oil flow when in neutral
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-09-2013, 09:06 AM	#17
Kick.doc Private 4 Rep 95 Posts Drives: F30. 320d M-Sport EBII Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: UK iTrader: (0) Garage List 2018 M240i Convertible [0.00]	If the dash icon is a blue foot and pedal then I have seen it. Dual carriageway downhill. Eco pro mode foot off accelerator. Thought I had a problem at first. lol.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-09-2013, 11:28 AM	#19
ll71 Private First Class 7 Rep 171 Posts Drives: F30 320D xDrive M Sport Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: GB iTrader: (0)	Not driven mine enough to really say, but I have it on our 911. In non-sport mode, the revs drop to idle revs, it's very weird, but it appears to work. Didn't notice the BMW doing the same today in eco-pro..
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-09-2013, 11:43 AM	#21
Boosted321 Private 1 Rep 84 Posts Drives: Xdrive 318d ish :o) Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	OK, thanks. I wonder if sailing is enabled in other countries if it could be enabled via coding for UK models (provided there are no mechanical differences).
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-10-2013, 11:32 AM	#22
Kick.doc Private 4 Rep 95 Posts Drives: F30. 320d M-Sport EBII Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: UK iTrader: (0) Garage List 2018 M240i Convertible [0.00]	Mine is a uk model.
	Appreciate 0 Quote