09-30-2013, 09:14 PM | #1 |
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stock M3/M4 quarter mile prediction
Should do an 11.9 or a 12.0 flat pretty easily, no? I suppose we can assume DCT for this discussion and add 0.2-0.3 seconds for 6MT.
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09-30-2013, 11:40 PM | #2 |
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I did a braketing calculation and simulation for this based on unknowns of underrating and weight. I came up with 11.6-12.1 seconds here in this post. Thus I think your estimate is very close.
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10-01-2013, 02:15 AM | #3 |
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I think the 1/4 mile times will be almost identical to the m5. They obviously fluctuate due to driver, conditions, etc., but all things equal I suspect it will be equal or possibly .1-.2 slower than the m5 in the 1/4. However I believe it will be .1-.2 seconds quicker from 0-60. I predict a ring time of 7:49. All of these times are almost identical to the m3 gts. Magazines and real world times tend to vary obviously (especially 0-60), but I predict....
3.6-3.7 0-60 11.9-12 1/4 7:49 Ring |
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10-01-2013, 03:00 PM | #8 |
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Given that the E92 M3 has already achieved 12.5 at 115, I think your 1/4 mi estimates are far too low/conservative. The same goes for the 0-100 time. It's not in line with the power to weight of the new car (even though the final ratio is a bit cloudy...)
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Avg of all times seem to fall around 12.7-12.8 @ 112 mph. I am guessing a 5 mph increase gen over gen... Ive seen a 997.2 S (385 hp) trap 117 mph but do not think that is the norm... http://www.motorweek.org/reviews/roa..._porsche_911_s My guesses are also dependant on M5/M6 numbers. Those two cars are ~12.0@120 mph. I highly doubt they are going to allow the M3 to beat these numbers in a car that is going to be 25-30K less. |
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10-01-2013, 05:22 PM | #11 |
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I've seen real world e90 M3 DCT models only wring out a 13.0 109MPH at 2000 ft elevation on a muggy day. They're good for high 12's. I think the new M3 should ship with Pilot Super Sports which would help.
The FI cars should do much better.
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10-01-2013, 05:36 PM | #12 |
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C7 Stingray did real world 12.23 @ 114.88
0-60 4.15 By the looks of it the M4 should beat both of those.
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From my perspective I am much more interested in the upper echelon of the performance numbers achieved say at the far ends of the distribution (whether you are talking about wanting good=small number or good=big number). Why is this? This number more represents the true ultimate potential of the car itself. It is less about the driver, the track, the weather etc. This is all of course assuming that the number is not some type of outlier, which I do not believe the 12.5@115 numbers are for the current M3. Now of course the "typical" numbers that typical drivers (non experts) are able to obtain are certainly also useful numbers to know. Knowing both gives one the best of both worlds! I don't know precisely the "best" M5 numbers obtained, but am certainly somewhat interested in those. I would not be surprised if the best numbers from the M4 are extremely close or maybe even better than the M5. At high speeds there will obviously be no contest, but at lower speeds it is going to be close. Ultimately, they will be close at low to medium speeds simply because their power to weight ratios will also be very close. Well that was pretty long winded but I hope clarifies my predictions and interests. Cheers.
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10-01-2013, 11:26 PM | #19 |
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Are you referring to the odd but totally traditional standard of US drag racing allowing 1 foot of travel before the timer starts? That's called a roll out and it contributes about 0.3 seconds to a faster 0-60 time. So that is not cheating it is just different standards. I don't know much about European 1/4 mi testing specs, I think they more often do 0-1000m.
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I agree with this for DCT, real world regular guy numbers. Maybe a slightly lower trap like 115.
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At the same time, I wouldnt count a test where someone was at the drag strip and didnt know what they were doing, becuase that too is not representative of the car either. All in all, I would be suprised if it was able to match the m5, and would be more surprised if it beat it...so Im sticking with my guess that it will come in where I claimed in an earlier post. I also did forget to mention, my numbers were for DCT, as the 6mt will not only be slower but trap less as well. Last edited by Wolfinwolfsclothing; 10-02-2013 at 07:24 AM.. |
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