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      07-31-2013, 06:00 PM   #1
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F82 M4 or GTR?

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Wanted to get some feedback between the upcoming M4 and the GTR. I am contemplating between the two cars, but can't make up my mind. Both cars are practical and can be daily drivers, but the GTR screens performance while the M4 has the performance but is definitely more tame. How do you guys think the new M4 will hold up to a GTR?

Only thing I don't like about the upcoming M4 is the sound of the TT inline six, bigger fan of the high pitch V8. GTR sounds incredible with an exhaust.

Any information if the interior is going to be upgraded as well? BMW seems to half a** interiors, would be nice to see an RS4 like interior in the upcoming M4.

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      07-31-2013, 06:30 PM   #2
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Is this a serious question? For pure performance it's tough to beat a GTR. These vehicles are not in the same class...BMW M3/M4 are not sports cars, they're sports coupes/sedans. That said, the F80 and F82 should be absolute beasts, class leaders and likely be more sophisticated and practical than GTRs...which look corny IMO.
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      07-31-2013, 07:04 PM   #3
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Yes, serious inquiry. Any idea on tuning capabilities on the car? So far specs and renders are stunning...
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Yes, serious inquiry. Any idea on tuning capabilities on the car? So far specs and renders are stunning...
It's going to be tough to assess tune-ability of an unannounced car that's getting a brand new engine, whose specs haven't been announced yet.
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      07-31-2013, 08:21 PM   #5
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Considering the car is not even out yet, I would think this question is a bit premature
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Considering the car is not even out yet, I would think this question is a bit premature
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      07-31-2013, 08:26 PM   #7
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GTR is going to be kind of old though.
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      08-01-2013, 08:53 AM   #8
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GTR is going to be kind of old though.
Aren't they coming out w/ a new model w/ a face lift and some performance upgrades? Won't be a big change, but I can see it will begin to feel slightly dated.
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If this new M4 comes out with optional ceramic brakes/sports seats like we've been seeing its going to be tough to beat the over all package.
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I can't really talk about the detail of performances. But the interior kinda disappoint me. The design is pretty old and the material is not as good as I expected when I saw my friend's GTR. But still, it's a GTR, in terms of specialty, it can be realized by more ppl comparing to a M3/4. From my opinion, M's can barely realized by normal ppl on the road.
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The GTR is designed with a performance priority above all and the result is no doubt spectacular. However, for me personally simplicity and purity in how the car feels and behave is more important than ultimate performance. I prefer rwd even if awd is sometimes faster and I prefer passive, significantly weighted HPS even if active light EPS generates less fatigue and could be faster. Same with engines I prefer NA even if turbos has more grunt.

None of these are deal breakers for me if they are done well but the GTR is very tech and weight heavy and is not my first choice in it's price range even if I think it's a very cool and capable car and I love that it exists.
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      08-01-2013, 03:26 PM   #12
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If this new M4 comes out with optional ceramic brakes/sports seats like we've been seeing its going to be tough to beat the over all package.
I really hope they upgrade the interior. They have definitely skimped out on the interiors in the past. More aggressive looking seats would be killer!
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      08-01-2013, 05:57 PM   #13
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Are you referring to the Nissan, or the GTS V8 M3? Since you refer to the high pitched V8, I have the impression you consider a high end F92 M3 V8 GTS versus the F82 M4 I6 forced induction?
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gtr is far from being practical... its real life mpg is like 12~14mpg .maintenance costs are outrageous. guess if $$ is not an issue, then any car can be "practical"

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GTR looks old? It's far more modern looking than the F82 which really is just a mild update to the E92.

And as far as performance goes, two totally different leagues. GT-R is a 10 second car with bolt-ons, the M4 is limited with a smaller displacement engine.
i am not saying it looks old. I am looking for the next big thing, the GTR has been out for years, and shouldn't be out for to much longer. I am guessing one more model year. Today its king,i know. but whats next?

theres a lot of cars about to come out in a year or two. cars that are going to have more technology, better looks, better value etc. hell maybe even word of the next GTR if there is one.

my point is this, i would for sure wait for a little. plus the M4 is not coming out anytime soon.


when i said old, i wasn't talking about its looks thats for dam sure.
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I think this question can only be answered once the M4 is released and tested. Until then it is all assumptions.

I am hoping BMW gives us an amazing M4 with a proper honest to good hydraulic steering setup. None of this numb life less EPS stuff found in regular BMW RWD cars. Also, they need to keep the price in check.

For me if you want a performance car then by the stats and bang for the buck the C7 Corvette Stingray is the most improved.
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Apples and oranges. Do you want a performance beast or a better all-around practical car?

I know it's not the same comparison but that's how I view my RX-7 FD and my E46 M3. M cars just always seem to do everything exceptionally well but may not be the leader in one particular category.
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I want something practical, but something I can tear it up in when the time comes. My E36 and E46 M3s were great DDs, but they just didn't have that "WOW" factor. My Elise had it, but it wasn't a great DD. I guess I am looking for something in between, thoughts?
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I always thought the GTR was out of the M3/M4 price range. Initially it was a really good deal, but now you have to spend 110 to 120 K to get a super silver GTR in whatever configuration. That seems a lot higher than the M4. I feel that I will have to spend 85k for the M4 with what I want on it, minus the CCB's. This is still a lot cheaper than a GTR.
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      08-02-2013, 03:36 PM   #20
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I always thought the GTR was out of the M3/M4 price range. Initially it was a really good deal, but now you have to spend 110 to 120 K to get a super silver GTR in whatever configuration. That seems a lot higher than the M4. I feel that I will have to spend 85k for the M4 with what I want on it, minus the CCB's. This is still a lot cheaper than a GTR.
Wouldn't mind taking a 1-2 year old GTR, price is comporable at that point. I have seen a few 09s selling in the high 50s, these things depreciate quick! GTR is a great car, but at the end of the day still a Nissan; doesn't have the same "sex appeal" as the M3. - just my thoughts. Torn between the two!
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Wouldn't mind taking a 1-2 year old GTR, price is comporable at that point. I have seen a few 09s selling in the high 50s, these things depreciate quick! GTR is a great car, but at the end of the day still a Nissan; doesn't have the same "sex appeal" as the M3. - just my thoughts. Torn between the two!
This is one worry you shouldn't have. The GT-R is in super car territory not just in performance but in the attention department as well. You'll feel like a celebrity in it guaranteed. If this is what you are looking for there is no substitute at it's price point. The M4 will not even reach the ankles of the GT-R here. For 99% of the population it will just be a lowly 3-series for 0.5% it will be a modded three and the last 0.5% will appreciate it, and they will all be dudes most with pimples
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OP, the relationship between the M4 and GTR will be similar than what the GTR is to the current M3. M3 enthusiasts are hoping for a leap in performance via lowered curb weight, more torque, ceramic brakes and a easily modded turbo motor. If BMW pulls it off, you'll have a pretty unbeatable package for the price point.

As good as the GTR is, it's still a wannabe super car with a chip on its shoulder.
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