2nd gear hard to engage! Anyone else ?

skimo · 12-04-2005, 04:43 PM

Anyone having difficulty going from 1st to 2nd? I thought this would get smoother, but I am at 3800 miles and its still tough.

All other gears are fine...just that 2nd gear! Need to go to dealer ?

thanks
skimo

shimshimhada · 12-04-2005, 04:44 PM

lol the CDV strikes yet again!

jbl16 · 12-04-2005, 04:45 PM

Is it just when ur shifting near the redline or hard launches or is it just all the time. My 330i was very hard to engage when shifting into 2nd during a hard launch, it went away in time.

skimo · 12-04-2005, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jbl16

Is it just when ur shifting near the redline or hard launches or is it just all the time. My 330i was very hard to engage when shifting into 2nd during a hard launch, it went away in time.

I think its there all the time, but becomes more apparent during hard launches cause then Im focusing more on my 0-60! ....about 600ms of that is going into me trying to force the stick into 2nd ! arghh..

I dont think that its CDV related (or is it?), its feels like I have to exert extra force to put the shifter into 2nd....exactly like that feeling you get when you are going above, say, 20mph and try to put the stick into 1st......

shimshimhada · 12-04-2005, 05:29 PM

Oh, I thought you meant getting a smooth shift from 1st to 2nd. Hmmm, I'm not sure.

Speedy E90 · 12-04-2005, 05:59 PM

I have similar problems shifting from 1st into 2nd but I believe it is due to the transmission being cold. After I drive (shift) for a little while it always goes away. My dads 997 Porsche does the exact same thing. So try heating it up a little bit and see if that makes a difference.

bavarian19 · 12-04-2005, 06:19 PM

How many miles do you have on yours?

My 1-2 shift was a little tough at first, but certainly went away with time... They have to make those gears more robust because theyw ill have the tendency to take the abuse versus the other gears...

obLu · 12-04-2005, 10:07 PM

Doesn't like to be rushed from 1-2. Only way I've every gotten it to be really smooth is cluth to the floor, move lever into neutral and let it sit there a split second, then it usually slides into 2nd nice and smooth without any of the gnashing.

Only problem is, you can't exactly do that real fast.

skimo · 12-04-2005, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bavarian19

How many miles do you have on yours?

~3800 miles....

...i just feel like going in there with an orbital sander and smooth stuff out !

just kidding

petesamprs · 12-04-2005, 10:56 PM

I definitely notice additional resistence into 2nd. The 1-2 shift and 3-2 downshift sucks. In addition to the harder shift, upshifting into 2nd is also more lurch-prone than any other upshift.

aw_330i · 12-04-2005, 10:59 PM

My car is the same. pretty hard to get into 2nd. uses alot more force then other gears.

I let my friend drive it and he noticed the same thing, so it wasn't only me.

Hopefully it will go away when i have more km's on the car. I now have 200km's

tiga901 · 12-05-2005, 08:47 AM

Try to install a modified CDV....I just did!!! You will see a night and day difference in the way the clutch egages during shifting. It's such a cheap mod that anyone who has a 6 speed MT should do it.

Tierfreund · 12-05-2005, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by tiga901

Try to install a modified CDV....I just did!!! You will see a night and day difference in the way the clutch egages during shifting. It's such a cheap mod that anyone who has a 6 speed MT should do it.

He has a problem getting the shifter INTO second gear. Not a problem with delayed clutch release or unsmooth shift due to the way the clutch releases. So the CDV really should be of no relevance.

Maybe the clutch isn´t seperating properly. Try having the clutch hydraulics bled.

Compos Mentis · 12-05-2005, 11:46 AM

This sounds like a synchronization issue. There have been posts that keeping on the gas longer keeps the RPM up to match 2nd gear, or wind out to higher RPMs before shifting so RPMs stays high during the shift.. This IS completely what a modern synchronized transmission is supposed to do for you, but you play the cards you're delt.
A older German friend was telling me about the old unsychronized days, and about RPM matching to shift without clutching. Ouch!
I am mildly disappointed in the shifting, but I'm getting better. I'm skeptical of the CDV mod, but open minded. The CDV is not a syncho issue that I can tell.
CM

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jbl16 Private First Class 19 Rep 199 Posts Drives: '13 E92 M3 ZCP DCT Join Date: May 2005 Location: Miami, FL iTrader: (0)	Is it just when ur shifting near the redline or hard launches or is it just all the time. My 330i was very hard to engage when shifting into 2nd during a hard launch, it went away in time. __________________ '13 E92 M3 ZCP DCT Prev:'06 E90 330i ZSP, '12 Mustang 5.0, '15 VW GTI
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shimshimhada Brigadier General 442 Rep 4,838 Posts Drives: Portal Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Portal iTrader: (2)	Oh, I thought you meant getting a smooth shift from 1st to 2nd. Hmmm, I'm not sure.
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bavarian19 General 517 Rep 18,858 Posts Drives: Car Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: VA iTrader: (23)	How many miles do you have on yours? My 1-2 shift was a little tough at first, but certainly went away with time... They have to make those gears more robust because theyw ill have the tendency to take the abuse versus the other gears...
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obLu Major 50 Rep 1,159 Posts Drives: 330i 6MT ZSP Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Kirkland, WA, USA iTrader: (1)	Doesn't like to be rushed from 1-2. Only way I've every gotten it to be really smooth is cluth to the floor, move lever into neutral and let it sit there a split second, then it usually slides into 2nd nice and smooth without any of the gnashing. Only problem is, you can't exactly do that real fast.
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petesamprs Lieutenant 34 Rep 519 Posts Drives: . Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: northeast iTrader: (0)	I definitely notice additional resistence into 2nd. The 1-2 shift and 3-2 downshift sucks. In addition to the harder shift, upshifting into 2nd is also more lurch-prone than any other upshift. __________________ '14 535i (ED) Retired: '08 M5, '08 550i (ED), '06 330i
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aw_330i Second Lieutenant 19 Rep 214 Posts Drives: 2016 AY M4 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Toronto / Richmond Hill iTrader: (1)	My car is the same. pretty hard to get into 2nd. uses alot more force then other gears. I let my friend drive it and he noticed the same thing, so it wasn't only me. Hopefully it will go away when i have more km's on the car. I now have 200km's
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tiga901 Second Lieutenant 7 Rep 244 Posts Drives: e90 330i, mt pp sp Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Millbrae, CA iTrader: (0)	Try to install a modified CDV....I just did!!! You will see a night and day difference in the way the clutch egages during shifting. It's such a cheap mod that anyone who has a 6 speed MT should do it.
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Compos Mentis Second Lieutenant 6 Rep 230 Posts Drives: Arctic 330xi Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Seattle iTrader: (0)	This sounds like a synchronization issue. There have been posts that keeping on the gas longer keeps the RPM up to match 2nd gear, or wind out to higher RPMs before shifting so RPMs stays high during the shift.. This IS completely what a modern synchronized transmission is supposed to do for you, but you play the cards you're delt. A older German friend was telling me about the old unsychronized days, and about RPM matching to shift without clutching. Ouch! I am mildly disappointed in the shifting, but I'm getting better. I'm skeptical of the CDV mod, but open minded. The CDV is not a syncho issue that I can tell. CM __________________ *Compos Mentis* ----------------- 2006 330xi Arctic, black leather, aluminum. 18000 miles...
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