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06-17-2013, 11:12 AM | #1 |
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Xenon Dynamic vs Dynamic Curve Headlights
I recently got a set of Euro Spec Bi-Xenon Dynamic headlights from eBay for retrofit project. I know they have auto height adjustment configuration, but then when I went to ECS Tuning website, they sell a set that is Dynamic w/ Curve.
So there are two types of Dynamic headlights? One with just height adjustment and, another with both height and curve adjustment? I'm really interested in the curve technology. The height adjustment will be coded out. If all Dynamic headlights come with Curve, I'll need to make a custom wiring harness. Have any advice on custom wiring harness? Thanks in advance your help ===============[EDIT 6/22/2013]=============== Here is what I found (ChuckBMW3 is right). There are several types of headlights. What you really have to figure out is what footwell module is equipped with your car with existing configuration. Without the right footwell module, your headlights will not work properly due to circuitry and wiring being different for different types of headlights. Footwell modules are marked with the following letters:
The Euro-Spec Bi-Xenon headlights I got from eBay didn't have a label, but they were brand new (probably stolen lol) and the guy barely spoke English so I didn't know if they were AHL or just XE. This is important because a new footwell module will be needed to match the configuration of the headlights. I learned that Adaptives have "BMW Dynamic Xenon D1S f 56mm d 70mm" inscribed on them and Non-Adaptives only say "BMW Xenon D1S". However, to be sure, I did some comparisons of the innards of my headlight assembly against pictures people posted on e90Post of other Bi-Xenon headlights. I noticed that mine had thee motors, one for low beam shutters, one for height adjustment and the other for left-right swivel. Non-adaptives with height adjustment only had two. Regular Xenon may have one or none depending on weather it had height adjustment capability or not. WTF BMW?! Since mine had three motors and inscribed with "BMW Dynamic Xenon D1S f 56mm d 70mm", an AHL footwell module was needed. ESC Tuning was selling it for $328 + $hipping. I've already spent $1399 on headlights (complete with ballast, bulbs, motors, etc.) from eBay, $198 for height adjustment module/hardware from ECS Tuning, and $150 for wiring harness from eBay. The project is starting to get a bit expansive. A quick search on eBay lead me to the exact AHL footwell module part #61359128185 (picture attached) suggested by their retrofit kit... $136 shipped. Boom!!! Saved about $200, thank you Mr. Scrapper BTW ECS Tuning AHL retorfit kit costs $2141, and that doesn't appear to include the ballast, the height adjustment modules or the footwell module. They said that kit is only for cars that already have height adjustment and want to add swivel. Their other kit goes for $1493 is XE... at least that included the adjustment modules/wiring harness. You may still need to buy the matching footwell module though. I think I'm saving tons by piecing the parts myself and I definitely have been getting lucky with availability and low prices. If you don't have the patience to search/collect go with ECS Tuning. They were quite informative and pleasure to work with, based on my experience so far. ECS Tuning also suggests that a new light switch is needed. My research suggests that the only difference between different light switch is whether or not light and rain sensor equipped. Since I have both already, which AHL requires, I won't be needing this piece... hopefully. Now I'm patiently waiting for the footwell and the wiring harness. Here is the order of retrofit steps:
Hopefully this is helpful to you guys. I'll update this as project progresses. ===============[EDIT 12/29/2013]=============== I took a break from this project for personal matters. Now I'm back into gears. The front wiring harness was run through the firewall and the rear was run under the carpet under on the left side. Here is a tip: Image search for things like "e90 running wire through firewall" and you'll find pictures that lead you to guides for whatever you want to do. Trust me it's a lot better than reading through posts that don't give you any pictures for reference. The wing harness didn't come with everything I needed. The harness was for Bi-Xenon with auto height adjustment, not swivel. I need two more wiring harnesses for that. It's difficult to find the right bushing contact size for the pin size on the headlight plug. I already bought the wrong kinds twice. The BMW dealership part service was no help. I need to find stripped plug from a similar car spec either on eBay or from a scrapper. Attached is the full retrofit guide. I have wiring harness A and B, and custom made C and D, but I need ends for C to complete it. Ahh this project makes me cry and feel excited about finishing it at the same time. Last edited by omare90; 12-29-2013 at 09:55 AM.. Reason: Retrofit project research update |
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Why are you coding out the auto leveling? It's a bit of a safety feature so you don't blind other drivers with obnoxious bright light.
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06-18-2013, 08:27 PM | #7 |
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Because I won't have the wiring harness at the time of install. I already have the headlights, but the wiring harness for leveling sensors delivery will take 2-3 weeks according to vendor from Germany. I guess I can wait it for it.
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06-20-2013, 10:20 AM | #8 |
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Ahh ok that makes sense. I thought maybe you were part of some new fad where disabling handy factory features was cool
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I am attempting the same retrofit, I was about to jump in and switch the wires from the NFRM and also the wires in the plug that goes into the healdights. Could you share a little bit more details about the wiring harness?? Is it a complete harness that goes from the NFRM to the headlights or are you switching cables in the NFRM plugs and getting an adapter for the headlight connections?
BTW I have Xenon non-AHL and have retrofitted and FRM2 AHL but took out option $524. Thanks.
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The wiring harness package comes with two wiring harnesses. They are complete and plug right into holes so that you won't need to switch out your old wires. You know how annoying it was to retrofit FRM2 AHL. There simply isn't enough space to clearly identify wires and holes. Luckily my FRM module came with the plug in it so I color coded my wires and wholes on it to help me find wholes and snap in the wires from the wiring harnesses. The harnesses are also equipped with ends for the height adjustment module. Since you have non-AHL Xenon headlights, you probably just not use it and tuck it away somewhere. Then you can still upgrade to AHL if you want to in the future.
If you choose to go the AHL route, you'll need to make two additional custom wiring harness that the car or the wiring harness package doesn't provide. I could reuse existing wires but I'm going to keep them in case I decide to switch them out to classic headlight temporarily when headlight modules blow or something. I'm attaching the retrofit guide that I'm using for my project. Quote:
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Out of curiousity, in all of this research have you come across anything about non-Xenon headlights with MANUAL leveling? That would be the base setup in most of Europe. I have no interest in having Xenon headlights, but I happen to already have the headlight switch with the manual leveling adjuster wheel - bought for the rear fog switch while I was in Amsterdam. In the past I retrofitted this functionality to a MKIV Golf TDI and found it quite useful. I'm wondering if my existing footwell module is setup for this, and all I would need would be lights and some wiring?
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You should be fine just switching to the new headlight switch module with rear fog button. It all comes down to your footwell module and the kind of headlights/washer/rain sensor configuration you have, in which case you need the right headlight switch module because circuitry in the headlight switch module is different, as they need to send other signals to other modules in addition to the lights. That said, headlight switch module is pretty simple--even with additional circuitry for other modules, switching to the new module with rear fog button should be plug-n-play.
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I'm interested to know if the wheel works as well. I have a 2006 E90 I'm installing Euro LCI Halogens with the manual motors. Does anyone know if this will work if ijust buy the switch? Do I need to run some wires? I have FRM1 so that probably limits me on coding. Sorry to thread jack but this is the only info I found on this. |
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As far as I know, ALL Xenon headlights are AUTO LEVELLING! At least in Europe. I have NEVER EVER seen ANY car with Xenons that would not auto level.
The base model in Europe in E90 gets halogens (not even projector ones) without angel eyes. These are manual leveling AFAIK. Then, you can pay extra for Xenons - auto leveling. Then, you can pay even more for adaptive Xenons, which follow the curvature of the road and light "around the corner". These are also auto levelling. As far as I know, autolevelling on xenons is a function of the adjuster rod on the lower front control arm??? bottom line: imo any type of xenon is autolevelling |
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Here's how it is in Europe with most BMW's:
Halogens: standard on the E9x, manual light levelling (with the light switch posted above), AE's after LCI Xenons: auto-levelling, no left/right swiveling, Adaptive (AHL) bi-xenons: auto-leveling, swiveling (left/right) and different inner bulb, so you can clearly say whether you have non-AHL or AHL by looking at the headlights. I just don't know how much is the AHL retrofit harder than non-AHL retrofit and if I need the whole retrofit kit and FRM3 as I have read that post-2011 1 Series have already the FRM3, so all you would need to do is code the FRM.
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If you want all the options, height adjustment and swivel, you will have to buy a wiring harness or make your own, and a new FRM that supports it. I wanted all. There are different versions of FRM 3 so you will need the one that supports adaptive features. You can always put the AHL headlights in, code out errors in your current FRM 3, and re-activate adaptive features once you replace your FRM 3 with AHL.
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