[Bescacho]

Hi,

I just noticed tonight that my 2007 e92's sunroof rear side seal / gasket seems to be broken. I can't find a good picture to confirm.

Could some of you wise people please advise?

My car still has CPO warranty. Would the dealer (Canada) repair it without any out of pocket expense?

Thanks a bunch.

[MGT81]

Originally Posted by Bescacho

Hi,

I just noticed tonight that my 2007 e92's sunroof rear side seal / gasket seems to be broken. I can't find a good picture to confirm.

Could some of you wise people please advise?

My car still has CPO warranty. Would the dealer (Canada) repair it without any out of pocket expense?

Thanks a bunch.

If its still under warranty, I'd think they would. Take it in ASAP though. Anyone know if seals/gaskets/rubber parts are covered under CPO?

[TheeGovernor]

Originally Posted by MGT81

If its still under warranty, I'd think they would. Take it in ASAP though. Anyone know if seals/gaskets/rubber parts are covered under CPO?

I believe seals are not covered

[BmerMeUp]

Originally Posted by TheeGovernor

I believe seals are not covered

Unfortunately, you would believe correct.

Canadian CPO: http://www.bmw.ca/ca/en/usedvehicles..._Guide_Eng.pdf

EXCLUSIONS:
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The repair or replacement of any body components, including finish, windscreen or other glass, weatherstrips, lenses, mirrors, interior and exterior trim, upholstery, carpet and cabriolet top and adjustments to such components to correct air and water leaks, wind noise, squeaks, rattles and alignment.

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They got me on my rear wiper motor. Motor is covered. Teeny tiny linkage BETWEEN the motor and the wiper: $500, not covered. Gah.

[Bescacho]

Thanks all for the replies!

Crap... so the seal is not covered by the CPO warranty...

Would the dealer charge me Labour Time in addition to the seal part? If so, how much am I look at?

Should I bring it to an indie like RMP or Bimmersport to get it done instead? An recommendation would be appreciated.

Thanks a lot!

[williamf]

Originally Posted by BmerMeUp

Unfortunately, you would believe correct.

Canadian CPO: http://www.bmw.ca/ca/en/usedvehicles..._Guide_Eng.pdf

EXCLUSIONS:
...
The repair or replacement of any body components, including finish, windscreen or other glass, weatherstrips, lenses, mirrors, interior and exterior trim, upholstery, carpet and cabriolet top and adjustments to such components to correct air and water leaks, wind noise, squeaks, rattles and alignment.

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They got me on my rear wiper motor. Motor is covered. Teeny tiny linkage BETWEEN the motor and the wiper: $500, not covered. Gah.

This is the crap that really gets under my skin about warranties. They are carefully crafted to usually NOT cover ALL the components of a particular repair. So something breaks and three things must be replaced, but only one of them is covered. The other two things cost 10X more to repair by the warrantor than they would from someone else. So at the end of the day, you pay as much or more for the repair than you would if you just took it to a third party in the first place.

[Surly73]

First, I believe that most of these seals are strips and will always have a break in them. It has to be somewhere, but yours seems to have opened up somewhat.

Second, if it's the seal I think it is, they don't actually seal water out - it's for wind. Water ALWAYS get's by, that's why there are four large drains out of the sunroof cassette. This may alter your perception of urgency.

If it was mine, I would probably start working the seal on the frame to see if I could simply close that gap. Effectively you might be going so far as to "re-install" it. I've replaces sunroof seals on BMWs a couple of times but not on an E90 yet.

[Bescacho]

Originally Posted by Surly73

First, I believe that most of these seals are strips and will always have a break in them. It has to be somewhere, but yours seems to have opened up somewhat.

Second, if it's the seal I think it is, they don't actually seal water out - it's for wind. Water ALWAYS get's by, that's why there are four large drains out of the sunroof cassette. This may alter your perception of urgency.

If it was mine, I would probably start working the seal on the frame to see if I could simply close that gap. Effectively you might be going so far as to "re-install" it. I've replaces sunroof seals on BMWs a couple of times but not on an E90 yet.

Thanks for the info.

Given that water enters from the sunroof seal anyway, does the existing gap in my seal make the situation any worse?

I called a few dealers and the CPO warranty does not cover it unless the seal exhibits manufacturer defect. They quoted me at least 3 hours of labour and expect to pay more than $1,000 to fix!

How is 3 hours of labor 1k?

I mean the seal itself has to be like 40 dollars.

Pays to garage your car.

Take it to a indy BMW shop.

[Surly73]

Seriously, Bescacho, just start manipulating the seal yourself. This can be fussy work, but it's far from rocket science. I don't understand how shop rate is any more than one hour, honestly, unless there's something really special about this seal on an E90. You may be able to simply work some slack around to the gap and close it. If the seal is still sealing and hasn't started to break down due to UV then you're done, for free.

Do you happen to have a pic from a little farther away to show more context to see if we're talking about the same seal?

[Bescacho]

Hi and thanks for the replies.

Yea, the rest of the seal is in ok condition and I am not getting any water problems but am trying to take some preventive actions.

I was also wondering if I could just replace the strip myself or fill that gap in the seal with something. My issue with replacing the seal is I don't have access around the entire glass (i.e. front corners around the hinges) thus not sure if I can do a good job.

The dealerships are crazy and told me they need to drop the headliner! I asked an indy shop and gave me rough quote of ~$200 to replace.

Below are a couple better pics of the seal. Do you think the seal gap size is abnormal?

[BmerMeUp]

I'm not near my car and this post has been awhile, but I checked it after I first saw your post and I have the same gap. So either it is normal or we both suffered the same break, equally possible. 2008 E91

When I'm back I will pic it and post to show, but as I recall I believe it was the same as yours.

[smallseafishie]

I honestly wouldn't worry about it. The sunroof seal is designed to "leak" in and there are drain lines that take care of the water. Just make sure you don't get your sunroof lines clogged.

[Bescacho]

Hey guys, I haven't checked this post in a while, but just want to report back that I haven't experienced any water leakage into the cabin yet (knock on wood) despite the gap in the seal. I explored the possibility of getting it fixed under the CPO warranty at the dealer and of course no luck...

[UKBasketball]

Originally Posted by Bescacho

Hey guys, I haven't checked this post in a while, but just want to report back that I haven't experienced any water leakage into the cabin yet (knock on wood) despite the gap in the seal. I explored the possibility of getting it fixed under the CPO warranty at the dealer and of course no luck...

I replaced the same seal on my E60. The rubber seal itself was like $20ish from Tischer and only took 10 min to remove the old one (basically just peel it off) and put the new one on.

To put the new on you peel back the adhesive strip and start at the center of the rear side and use a roller tool to stick it on flush. When you get all the way back to where you started, you use a knife to cut off the excess length and press the edges together. Mine was so tight the edges basically sealed up by pressing against each other. There were some good DIY threads over on 5series.net, I can't imagine it would be any different on the E9x models. Good luck!

I did notice a significant redution in wind noise after installing the new seal also.

[bmrman1]

It almost seems like it was replaced before and someone cut it too short. It's not too hard to do it yourself.

[Blackhawk36]

$20ish from Tischer is $150 in Canada. I'll never figure that out. Must be GST+PST+ whatever other tax. When we visit relatives in Toronto we pick up $20 cases of LaBatt's beer in NY so we don't have to $45 a case in Canada (Where it is brewed!)

[Wolf 335]

Bumping this thread.

I noticed this same gap on mine a few days ago. No leaks but i cant recall if i had it there from before.

Curious if this is done by design of is something is actually wrong here.

[NGEE]

Originally Posted by Blackhawk36

we pick up $20 cases of LaBatt's beer in NY

A little part of me just died.