Active Steering version 2.0

ndahbar · 09-15-2007, 09:55 PM

Hi everyone,

I'm calling the current Active Steering option "v 2.0" because as many of you already know, BMW considerably revamped the system for the 2006 model year of vehicles.

Upon initial launch, the 1st "version" of active steering was very poorly received by everyone, professionals or otherwise.

However I've read a few articles in which it was stated that "BMW got it right this time".

What is the consensus on this?

I ask because it is in our nature to just dismiss something that was crap to begin with, and not pay attention to its "second coming", no matter how changed it is.

So it would be helpful to know what those who tried the 1st gen system and the current one think, as well as those that put a decent effort to really determine if its inferior to the regular setup in terms of feedback/feel/comfort.

Many thanks. :rocks:

stressdoc · 09-15-2007, 09:59 PM

Not my cup of tea.

GhostF@ce · 09-15-2007, 10:23 PM

I haven't had my car for very long, but so far I'm impressed with it. It really makes one handed u-turns very easy. On the twisties it seems to function very well during spirited driving. I have no complaints yet, and I'm glad to have it.

sflgator · 09-15-2007, 10:30 PM

I don't have it now but I drove a friend's 335i w/ AS, and I liked it; very cool for the parking lots or when driving at slow speeds around turns.

I will probably order AS on my next car.

Orb · 09-15-2007, 11:27 PM

I love it and would never get another BMW without it. It does take time to use to it but it is funny how fast the human condition adapts to feature like this so after a while the feel and response becomes perfectly intuitive. If you have a LSD the you will like it a lot more as you can correct the car so dam fast and it’s effortless.

Orb

scm6079 · 09-16-2007, 01:11 AM

It's *incredible*. Best option on my 335i, I may even trade all other options for this one. I won't by another car without it.

-Scott

Ty Vil · 09-16-2007, 01:13 AM

I still say it's garbage. Drives me nuts when I get in a car with it.

letterkills155 · 09-16-2007, 02:14 AM

what is the difference between a car with it and without it why does it drive you nuts?

raleedy · 09-16-2007, 07:16 AM

You won't find it on the M3 or M5. Think about that.

achien · 09-16-2007, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by raleedy

You won't find it on the M3 or M5. Think about that.

+1, AS is for nannies who used to drive Camrys but have now upgraded to BMWs.

Park2670 · 09-16-2007, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raleedy

You won't find it on the M3 or M5. Think about that.

Because it wont fit... Thats why

I love active steering, wont buy a car without it. I will admit the first version was weird since it was always changing ratios while you were driving. But in my E90 its so seamless you dont even know its changing. Plus I track my car, and I find it very helpful and makes driving that much more fun.

letterkills155 · 09-16-2007, 10:32 AM

so you can feel it helping if thats so it is not for me

Park2670 · 09-16-2007, 11:12 AM

The old version you would watch it change ratios right in the middle of a turn. Now it waits and doesnt change until you are in a straight line. Test drive one, believe what you think, not what everyone else tells you to believe

tomswift · 09-16-2007, 11:19 AM

I have 14,000 miles on my 335i.. and I love AS. It was not hard to get used to and makes my combination of city and highway driving easy. I would not buy another BMW without it. I had a G35 before this car and the transition was easy.

Tom

NPDAN · 09-16-2007, 11:28 AM

I never had it on any other car then this one. It's great. Now when I drive other cars I can tell the difference

cn555ic · 09-16-2007, 03:23 PM

a one handed u turn...reminds me of the days of the Cadillacs...The quido mobile!!!!! What are you guys nuts, your driving a BMW...One handed U turns...lololol

ndahbar · 09-17-2007, 12:38 PM

Sorry guys, but the comments about this system being appropriate only for cars like a Camry are inappropriate.

Modern PORSCHES have variable steering ratio systems, Boxsters, Caymans, and even the GT3 included. I would hardly classify such cars along with a Cadillac/Camry...

ucla1995 · 09-17-2007, 01:06 PM

I don't have it, but I live in a city and park in tight spots and I've NEVER wished I had it.

*35i · 09-17-2007, 02:29 PM

I have not driven a 3 with AS, but I have driven a 5 w/ it. I kind of liked it. I doubt I would get it on my 3, but that decision is solely monetary. It seems those who have it love and those who don't bash it to justify why they didin't get it. I probably won't get it, but I thought it was a great feature.

Park2670 · 09-17-2007, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by *35i

It seems those who have it love and those who don't bash it to justify why they didin't get it.

haha this is funny!

I have found that most people in this world fear change. As I have said many times, I love active steering, and I enjoy it on the track. Will never own a BMW without active steering.

ALPINE6SPD · 09-17-2007, 02:45 PM

also search and you will find tons of posts with hundreds of pages on responses. Or better yet drive one with it and without it and make a decision on your own. It just was not worth it for me and I really liked the regular steering.

DaveStinsman · 09-17-2007, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ucla1995

I don't have it, but I live in a city and park in tight spots and I've NEVER wished I had it.

And you probably never drove a car with it. When I was growing up we had rotary phones. I didn't want a touchtone phone. I hate technology.

09-15-2007, 09:55 PM	#1
ndahbar Private First Class 29 Rep 112 Posts Drives: BMW 530i Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: MA iTrader: (0)	Active Steering version 2.0 Hi everyone, I'm calling the current Active Steering option "v 2.0" because as many of you already know, BMW considerably revamped the system for the 2006 model year of vehicles. Upon initial launch, the 1st "version" of active steering was very poorly received by everyone, professionals or otherwise. However I've read a few articles in which it was stated that "BMW got it right this time". What is the consensus on this? I ask because it is in our nature to just dismiss something that was crap to begin with, and not pay attention to its "second coming", no matter how changed it is. So it would be helpful to know what those who tried the 1st gen system and the current one think, as well as those that put a decent effort to really determine if its inferior to the regular setup in terms of feedback/feel/comfort. Many thanks. :rocks:
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Orb Lieutenant Colonel 111 Rep 1,764 Posts Drives: 335 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Canada iTrader: (1)	I love it and would never get another BMW without it. It does take time to use to it but it is funny how fast the human condition adapts to feature like this so after a while the feel and response becomes perfectly intuitive. If you have a LSD the you will like it a lot more as you can correct the car so dam fast and it’s effortless. Orb
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Ty Vil Captain 31 Rep 913 Posts Drives: ///M4 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Scottsdale, AZ (by way of Portland, OR) iTrader: (0)	I still say it's garbage. Drives me nuts when I get in a car with it.
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letterkills155 Second Lieutenant 9 Rep 228 Posts Drives: 08 e92 335i Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: st.louis iTrader: (0) Garage List 08 335i [0.00]	what is the difference between a car with it and without it why does it drive you nuts?
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raleedy Colonel 160 Rep 2,248 Posts Drives: 2016 228i 6-speed Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Portland, Oregon iTrader: (0)	You won't find it on the M3 or M5. Think about that.
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letterkills155 Second Lieutenant 9 Rep 228 Posts Drives: 08 e92 335i Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: st.louis iTrader: (0) Garage List 08 335i [0.00]	so you can feel it helping if thats so it is not for me
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Park2670 General 355 Rep 18,218 Posts Drives: Tesla Model 3 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UTAH iTrader: (8)	The old version you would watch it change ratios right in the middle of a turn. Now it waits and doesnt change until you are in a straight line. Test drive one, believe what you think, not what everyone else tells you to believe
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09-16-2007, 11:19 AM	#14
tomswift TomSwift 4 Rep 133 Posts Drives: BMW 335i Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Houston, Tx iTrader: (0)	I have 14,000 miles on my 335i.. and I love AS. It was not hard to get used to and makes my combination of city and highway driving easy. I would not buy another BMW without it. I had a G35 before this car and the transition was easy. Tom
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NPDAN Colonel 95 Rep 2,573 Posts Drives: AW DCT M3 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: So.Cal iTrader: (7) Garage List 2008 E92 M3 [8.00] 07' E92 335i [0.00]	I never had it on any other car then this one. It's great. Now when I drive other cars I can tell the difference __________________
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cn555ic 441 Rep 18,331 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: US iTrader: (6)	a one handed u turn...reminds me of the days of the Cadillacs...The quido mobile!!!!! What are you guys nuts, your driving a BMW...One handed U turns...lololol
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09-17-2007, 12:38 PM	#17
ndahbar Private First Class 29 Rep 112 Posts Drives: BMW 530i Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: MA iTrader: (0)	Sorry guys, but the comments about this system being appropriate only for cars like a Camry are inappropriate. Modern PORSCHES have variable steering ratio systems, Boxsters, Caymans, and even the GT3 included. I would hardly classify such cars along with a Cadillac/Camry...
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09-17-2007, 01:06 PM	#18
ucla1995 Slow and low 59 Rep 636 Posts Drives: M5 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: USA iTrader: (2)	I don't have it, but I live in a city and park in tight spots and I've NEVER wished I had it.
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*35i Private 0 Rep 58 Posts Drives: 2004 Honda POS Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Orlando, FL iTrader: (0)	I have not driven a 3 with AS, but I have driven a 5 w/ it. I kind of liked it. I doubt I would get it on my 3, but that decision is solely monetary. It seems those who have it love and those who don't bash it to justify why they didin't get it. I probably won't get it, but I thought it was a great feature.
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ALPINE6SPD Lieutenant General 156 Rep 10,411 Posts Drives: 2010 BMW 328i Sport Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Highland Lakes NJ iTrader: (2)	also search and you will find tons of posts with hundreds of pages on responses. Or better yet drive one with it and without it and make a decision on your own. It just was not worth it for me and I really liked the regular steering. __________________ 2010 AW e90 328i: 6 speed, Black Leather, Dark Wood trim, ZPP, ZCW, ZVP,ZSP, Nav, Xenon BMW Performance CF Rear spolier and Gloss black grills 2008 Candy White MKV GTI 2.0T 6 Speed Manul Gone 2008 AW X3 3.0si: 6 speed Returned 2006 AW e90 330i: 6 speed Dinan Stage 1 Returned
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