03-26-2013, 12:26 AM | #2 |
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if your car is automatic you might be able to hack the wiring harness to get it to work, but that voids the warranty. The stealership might be able to retro fit if there's a kit otherwise try mrpaddleshift.com, but they're expensive probably around $1500 to $2000 at a guess
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03-26-2013, 09:44 AM | #3 |
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It should be the same as on E90. It is a semi-easy work when you have the sport wheel (on the E90, the airbag is different between the sport wheel and the normal wheel). It voids the warranty only for related items, and honestly it has very little chances to cause any sort of problems, the paddles are inert, and you attach to the original buttons on the AT stick, which are similar electric flicks.
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08-19-2013, 10:23 PM | #5 |
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I'd be very careful about making this statement, any unauthorized modification can void your entire warranty, as it determined by BMW.
I'd check with your dealer and get some assurances. If your dealer willing to look the other way, that's something they can do. The logic that they use goes something like this ... "any mod in electrical system can impact other parts connected to it, the same applies for mechanical and other systems". |
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08-20-2013, 08:54 PM | #6 |
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No. The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, enforced by the FTC, specifically prohibits such blanket voiding of a warranty. The only thing the manufacturer can do is to deny a repair if the modification caused the failure.
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08-20-2013, 11:27 PM | #7 | |
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Now, to address your specific point. By making unauthorized changes to equipment connected to an electrical and electronic systems of a car, one can easily impact other items connected to these systems, which is pretty much everything, other than finish and exterior items. On the other hand, if one installs unauthorized body kit, I don't see how it can short circuit a wiring or impact computer's responses, but it can impact aerodynamic and safety of a car especially at high speeds. Last edited by 328AL; 08-20-2013 at 11:38 PM.. |
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08-21-2013, 07:59 AM | #9 |
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I had wanted the "sport transmission" option on my car, but it somehow didn't get listed on the order form and the car arrived without it. I asked the dealer if it could be retrofitted, and they checked and determined that it could not. It may be possible to fit the paddles only, but the transmission software is apparently different. There's a good deal of difference in the electrical systems in the F30 versus the E90, so I wouldn't assume it'd be a straightforward install. There's no telling if the wiring harness is the same for paddles/non-padddles cars, and so forth.
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08-21-2013, 05:44 PM | #10 | |
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You need to dig a tiny bit deeper. The FTC has a website, SEMA addresses it, etc.
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As a real world statutory matter, a manufacturer cannot deny warranty coverage unless it affirmatively establishes an aftermarket part or improper servicing directly caused the failure at issue. Speculation alone is insufficient. Even if this burden is met, the warranty otherwise remains in effect for all other covered components. |
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08-22-2013, 03:03 PM | #11 | |
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However, I did speak to service advisers when I was thinking of modifying my headlights (I know it's a bigger change than shifters) and 1 mechanic who used to work at a BMW dealership. All of them stated that I could loose the whole warranty. Now, to your point, BMW can show a record of fault codes generated by an addition/change, that would certainty require some kind of response from the main computer and/or other modules to mitigate these failures' impact. Is that sufficient in a court of law, I have no idea? However, a prospect of getting lawyers involved into 2 years or more of litigation is not something, I'm personally willing to do regardless of chances for a success; that's is my personal opinion, others may disagree. |
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08-22-2013, 06:22 PM | #12 | |
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Accepted. (By the way, it is "scholar")
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You have not made any real further attempt to find the answer, have you? Here is one, easy to read summary: Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act for Dummies |
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08-22-2013, 07:11 PM | #13 |
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Thank you for the correction. No, I have not revisited the law nor had I suggested that your view is wrong.
My position, however, remains the same. If everybody followed laws, why would we need lawyers and lawsuits? People, organizations, companies, politicians (who write them) brake laws all of the time. I'm not willing to spend 2+ years and $$$ to prove to my dealership that I'm right over paddle shifters or lights. Last edited by 328AL; 08-23-2013 at 12:48 AM.. |
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11-27-2013, 05:24 PM | #14 |
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I have the same problem... My 2013-09 F31 came with the "standard" sport steering wheel, which I don't like because of the thin grip and the slippery surface... I can get my hands on another wheel which has the specs I prefer, but this wheel has shifters...
Anyone can advise me if I can get this to work and what it takes to get this to work and if additional coding is required?? I don't care about any warranty, so please skip that discussion! 😉 Thanks again, Sharks |
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Not sure why adding paddles would do anything to void a warranty anyway..? Just bought the car and no interest in trading in and losing thousands on taxes, depreciation, and mark up...just to get paddles. Anyway, if anyone on this thread has successfully done the retrofit, let me know as I have a few questions. Thanks! |
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02-14-2017, 06:41 PM | #18 |
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Can be done, but involves some software configuration changes in addition to new hardware. And your cost in parts will be in the neighborhood of $1K, if not more (depends on your current steering wheel mostly). Just google "F30 paddle shift retrofit" for links to the DIYs and discussions.
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Having issues running the wire from SW to FEM and have a few questions on the wiring. |
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02-14-2017, 07:02 PM | #22 | |
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Sorry, I know you're giving advice out of concern...And I do appreciate it. But there should be no issue what so ever regarding warranty IMO. As far as install, yes very important part. But not the end of the world. People swap steering wheels all the time. Wheels/tires are a very important part too but people change those out all the time...Does everyone torque their lug nuts to spec? Doubtful...But it's a good idea....As such, I'll make sure I take the proper precautions with the SW install |
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