B6 S4 with all bolt ons take a 335i procede?

ritesh · 07-21-2007, 04:21 PM

Just as the title suggests.... AND please, no flaming of either car... Something I would like to know...
Can a B6 S4 (4.2 V8) Sedan w/ 6sp Manual with full exhaust, chip, down pipes, intake etc... take a chipped 335i? (not V2 Procede)
Has any one had the chance to run 1?

Thanks

TRZ06 · 07-21-2007, 04:24 PM

Need some more info on the S4, like what is the dyno numbers?

Driver72 · 07-21-2007, 04:28 PM

Yes, I was the first person in the country to run this exact race with my PROcede v1.2 sedan.

Being one of the first 30 people to get the PROcede after release, I had it installed at the LA Dyno Day install.
There was a guy there with the exact Audi you describe except it was an auto. I know the auto stinks in the Audi, but the manual wouldn't of helped him much.

It was a 2005 with the whole she-bang on it.
He was cool and he wanted to know how his car compared to the PROceded 335i.
So literally 2 minutes after the install we went out on this open street for a couple runs.

It wasn't really close.

To be honest, I think a STOCK 335i would have a chance of running with the V8 S4 6MT with all those mods, and a stock 335i would beat the auto S4 with those mods by a bit.
Keep in mind the B6 S4 stock traps at about 101-102 mph on average.
With those mods it's probably 105 mph...or about what a stock 335i traps at.

I'll find the original post I made of this and put a link to it here for you.
BTW, that guy was so impressed I think he sold his S4 and got a 335i instead.

Here is the link to my original post back in February.
The first couple paragraphs describe the Audi vs PROcede (v1.2) race.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...7&highlight=S4

ritesh · 07-21-2007, 04:31 PM

Thank YOU!!! I would love the link.. Is this the post where the actual S4 owner chimed in as well? I think i remember reading one... I'll do a search as well...

Driver72 · 07-21-2007, 04:41 PM

Yes, it is now linked in my post above.

DrGP · 07-21-2007, 04:45 PM

Stock 335i is a match for the B6 S4 (my previous car). The real problem with a modded S4 is there really aren't that many performance enhancing mods available. An ECU flash downpipes and catbacks are about the only thing that will make the S4 any faster other than a big weight loss program.

sflgator · 07-21-2007, 05:13 PM

Well, there's this thread...

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...ight=walked+s4

and this thread...

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...ROcede+335i+s4

E90Russ · 07-21-2007, 05:17 PM

I dont think it would be much a match, just looking at the numbers.

E90ice · 07-21-2007, 05:47 PM

Tell that to the Audi guys. Some of them think they drive Veryons.

On audizine.com some of them say the "3 series" are a piece of shit.

It's ok. They are just upsed because the Procede'ed 335 can beat a RS4, let alone a S4.

ritesh · 07-21-2007, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E90ice

Tell that to the Audi guys. Some of them think they drive Veryons.

On audizine.com some of them say the "3 series" are a piece of shit.

It's ok. They are just upsed because the Procede'ed 335 can beat a RS4, let alone a S4.

Tell me about it.... Thats my car they are callin that!!! Maybe because his S4 Avant got smoked by my 335i!:rocks:

It's pretty bad when ' a piece of shit' leaves you behind... That toilet must have had a turbo! OHH WAIT.. twin turbo.....

XS4 · 07-21-2007, 08:13 PM

The B6 S4 is a well equipped but heavy cruiser. There really isn't much more power to be gotten out of its V8, and any tuner/owner that isn't delusional will admit that. The earlier (2000-2002) B5 S4's however are twin turbos V6's, and you can mod them, up to 320-400+hp, (bigger turbos, ICs, fueling, etc.) It's not hard, and has been pretty well sorted out by now They might not handle as well right out of the box, but modded they can walk a B6 in terms of raw speed. Maybe at triple digit speeds the V8 might come back into play tho. There's a fair amount of rivalry/respect between B5 and B6 owners, each partial to their own advantages over the other.

Driver72 · 07-21-2007, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sflgator

Well, there's this thread...

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...ight=walked+s4

and this thread...

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...ROcede+335i+s4

Neither of those are against a B6 S4 however.

ritesh · 07-21-2007, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XS4

The B6 S4 is a well equipped but heavy cruiser. There really isn't much more power to be gotten out of its V8, and any tuner/owner that isn't delusional will admit that. The earlier (2000-2002) B5 S4's however are twin turbos V6's, and you can mod them, up to 320-400+hp, (bigger turbos, ICs, fueling, etc.) It's not hard, and has been pretty well sorted out by now They might not handle as well right out of the box, but modded they can walk a B6 in terms of raw speed. Maybe at triple digit speeds the V8 might come back into play tho. There's a fair amount of rivalry/respect between B5 and B6 owners, each partial to their own advantages over the other.

Very nicely put. Welcome here!

sflgator · 07-21-2007, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Driver72

Neither of those are against a B6 S4 however.

Oh, were they both earlier model, B5 S4's?

Sorry...didn't know.

Ikarus · 07-22-2007, 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E90ice

They are just upsed because the Procede'ed 335 can beat a RS4

According to Car & Driver's Lightning Lap 2007, the stock 335 will do.

A quote from the online article: "many of us at Car and Driver think [the 335 is] the best all-around car in the world".

E90Russ · 07-22-2007, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ikarus

A quote from the online article: "many of us at Car and Driver think [the 335 is] the best all-around car in the world".

WOW. That is quite the statement!

S4to335 · 07-22-2007, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ritesh

Just as the title suggests.... AND please, no flaming of either car... Something I would like to know...
Can a B6 S4 (4.2 V8) Sedan w/ 6sp Manual with full exhaust, chip, down pipes, intake etc... take a chipped 335i? (not V2 Procede)
Has any one had the chance to run 1?

Thanks

The chip on the B6 S4 just raised the top speed limiter a tad..not that much gain on a normally aspirated car. ...down pipes and exhaust add a bit..the intake is less helpful. Having owned three chipped B5 S4s..and ridden in several B6 and B7 S4s...modded and stock..I think a proceded 335i would definitely take it. If it takes the B7 RS 4..at 420 bhp..it would definitely take a B6 S4.

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