[fallintotherhyme]

When i shift from 1st to second, in order to get a smooth shift i'd have to gradually let out the clutch. That's all well but sometimes i get people ready to rear end me.

The shift takes about 2 seconds tops and if i attempt to release the clutch earlier than I do at the moment, the car lurches since the rpms haven't dropped yet.

So how do you guys do a fast and smooth shift to 2nd to avoid assholes beeping .

[R12ax7]

CDV Delete (+ PBX if you have an N52). Seriously a must for any 6MT. I just installed (finally) my PBX last night and that makes for much smoother shifting also.

[fallintotherhyme]

car's a lease though so I don't intend on doing cdv :l..

[gunnerxq]

Originally Posted by fallintotherhyme

When i shift from 1st to second, in order to get a smooth shift i'd have to gradually let out the clutch. That's all well but sometimes i get people ready to rear end me.

The shift takes about 2 seconds tops and if i attempt to release the clutch earlier than I do at the moment, the car lurches since the rpms haven't dropped yet.

So how do you guys do a fast and smooth shift to 2nd to avoid assholes beeping .

Originally Posted by fallintotherhyme

car's a lease though so I don't intend on doing cdv :l..

If you get a cdv valve it looks exactly the same the dealer would never know. It took me 30 min to do it. It's literally take off and clip on.

[mashimarho]

Could you inform me more on this as well? I just bought a 6mt and would like to know / buy the same!!

[fallintotherhyme]

can no one achieve fast and smooth shifts WITH cdv? I'll only do it if it's my last option D:!

[pimp4cheddar]

I'm having the same issue...but I have an N54.

It's rough as hell to get into 2nd gear. Every other gear is great...but it's always a hassle getting into 2nd.

What's this CDV you folks speak of?

[fallintotherhyme]

Originally Posted by pimp4cheddar

I'm having the same issue...but I have an N54.

It's rough as hell to get into 2nd gear. Every other gear is great...but it's always a hassle getting into 2nd.

What's this CDV you folks speak of?

I doubt engine model matters since we're still getting the same amount of torque and have the same kind of rev hang.

Look up cdv on the forums, tons of threads dedicated to its removal.

What i'm interested in is if anyone has cdv must still manages to start from first and shift to 2nd fast and smooth.

[DDS2015]

I had issues shifting smoothly at first but now I don't have any problems with it.

Also, who cares if people honk at you. If they rear-end you it's their fault. You aren't impeding traffic. Get better at it at your own pace and you'll get there eventually.

[fallintotherhyme]

Originally Posted by DDS2015

I had issues shifting smoothly at first but now I don't have any problems with it.

Also, who cares if people honk at you. If they rear-end you it's their fault. You aren't impeding traffic. Get better at it at your own pace and you'll get there eventually.

describe your launch from 1st. What rpm do you shift at 2nd and clutch release rate. That'll give me a better idea of what you and I are doing differently.

I feel as if people follow me closely cause they expect me to fly off the line ...what they don't know is that i have to lose power when i shift T_T...

[DDS2015]

If I'm driving in the city then I try and keep the revs below 2-2.5 rpm. Does two things: 1. helps with fuel economy. 2. makes the 1-2 shift quite smooth.

If I'm given' her the beans then I may shift around 3-4 or maybe even 5 (now that i'm done break in). Just shift quickly and rev match.

The smoothness that you're looking for depends just as much as the speed you're travelling as the engine speed. You have to match both in order to get a good shift, this comes with practise (I'm not 100% at it yet but I've only had the car 4 weeks).

[fallintotherhyme]

Originally Posted by DDS2015

If I'm driving in the city then I try and keep the revs below 2-2.5 rpm. Does two things: 1. helps with fuel economy. 2. makes the 1-2 shift quite smooth.

If I'm given' her the beans then I may shift around 3-4 or maybe even 5 (now that i'm done break in). Just shift quickly and rev match.

The smoothness that you're looking for depends just as much as the speed you're travelling as the engine speed. You have to match both in order to get a good shift, this comes with practise (I'm not 100% at it yet but I've only had the car 4 weeks).

That shift process is the exact same process as mine. 2.2-2.5k. If you were to have the clutch slip too fast before the revs drop it's guaranteed to lurch foward no? I'm not debating the smoothness possibility of the shift as any shift can be made smooth given the proper revs, but i'm talking about speed + smoothness to minimize loss of momentum.

can you explain "you have to match both in order to get a good shift"?

1st gear at 2.2k-2.5k rpm is around 17mph or so i think.

[BTM]

Originally Posted by fallintotherhyme

can no one achieve fast and smooth shifts WITH cdv? I'll only do it if it's my last option D:!

Yes, it's possible with the CDV. I only removed mine because of wear concerns. I barely noticed a difference taking the CDV out.

[DDS2015]

I usually shift by about 12-15 mph in the city. I don't get any lurching with that. I did at first, but not anymore. The lurch can be one of two things, either your engine speed is too low for the gear you want to change into, or it's too high. I find if I rev it a little higher then I can let out the clutch more slowly and get a better shift.

It's kind of hard to describe actually, but I think that as long as the car is going where you want it to go and you're not stalling constantly then all you need to do is perfect your technique which honestly just comes with practise. It takes time to master it, so just be patient.

[Bender1012]

You are releasing the clutch too soon I think. I used to have the same problem but now I shift at say 2.5, and match 2nd gear at 1.5. The wait for the rpms to drop that much does seem a little long, but it's normal. Any sooner and I get a slight lurch.

[fallintotherhyme]

Originally Posted by Bender1012

You are releasing the clutch too soon I think. I used to have the same problem but now I shift at say 2.5, and match 2nd gear at 1.5. Any sooner and I get a slight lurch.

if that's the case you've stopped accelerating for at least 1.5 secs right? I guess i just have to live with beeping assholes then. Anytime i get off the acc to shift people almost rear end me.

[JS82]

Try to shift at 3k rpm.
Practice a little bit and you'll be fine.
It takes a little to get used to it.

[Tom K.]

Upshifting from 1st at around 2500 revs, it shouldn't take as much as 2" for the revs to drop down to the 1500 point for optimal clutch release in 2nd. Perhaps there is an engine management issue.

Every BMW I've owned has rewarded a quick 1~2 shift and smooth (but not slow) clutch release with a jerk-free ride. But holding the clutch in too long generally results in a very awkward shift.

And I've never felt any interference from the CDV or any need to delete it - although in the interest of longevity (and my wallet) I never dump the clutch.

Tom

[Bender1012]

Originally Posted by fallintotherhyme

if that's the case you've stopped accelerating for at least 1.5 secs right? I guess i just have to live with beeping assholes then. Anytime i get off the acc to shift people almost rear end me.

The solution is to burn them immediately once you get into 2nd gear and above

Oh, another thing. Maybe you are underestimating the versatility of 2nd gear at low speeds. You say you always get honked at. Are you rolling around for a while in 1st gear? The only time I ever encounter this problem is when I first back out of my driveway, and I get my ass into a higher gear asap.

[flip4335]

Shifting smoothly when the car is cold is difficult at best. The car is stumbling and the computer is trying to keep the idle revs steady. Initial start will always be rough.

After the engine warms up, I get the rpms within 2500-3000 in first gear, depress the clutch and quickly shift into second gear, careful to shift before the rpms drop below 2000rpm. Re-engaging the clutch between 2-2300rpm is the sweet spot for smooth upshift in my vehicle.

Shifting from first to second should be smooth as long as you smoothly engage, shift, and disengage the clutch at or above 2000 rpm.

[fallintotherhyme]

Originally Posted by Bender1012

The solution is to burn them immediately once you get into 2nd gear and above

Oh, another thing. Maybe you are underestimating the versatility of 2nd gear at low speeds. You say you always get honked at. Are you rolling around for a while in 1st gear? The only time I ever encounter this problem is when I first back out of my driveway, and I get my ass into a higher gear asap.

I accelerate to 2.5k revs then when i let off the accelerator and start shifting I get honked.


I'm not arguing the smoothness of shifts, just the speed. A smooth shift takes me over 1.5 secs for the revs to drop.

[Bender1012]

Are we actually talking about your Corolla here?