[dreamnmotion]

Hi, my hpfp just bit the dust today and I've made an appointment with the dealer for tomorrow to install a new one. Now, can I just leave my dual intake in there and be okay or do I have to take it out and put the stock back on? I'm out of warranty for a while now, but the hpfp is covered up to 120k due to the recall. Can/would they not honor the recall if I decide to leave the dual intake there? Thanks.

[JunkStory]

If it's the recall then they still have to replace it. But if it's getting fixed under extended warranty then they can deny the warranty work blaming the DCI, but unlikely.

[dreamnmotion]

It's under the recall. I got the letter for the voluntary recall a while back and though "this would never happen to me because I've put 60K+ miles on it". Guess it could happen any time. Thanks for your reply.

[M340i Pride]

very low probability, but anything can happen so if you are cool with your SA do ask him.

[ceb]

Originally Posted by JunkStory

If it's the recall then they still have to replace it. But if it's getting fixed under extended warranty then they can deny the warranty work blaming the DCI, but unlikely.

Absolutely and totally wrong.

They can deny the warranty fix by claiming that the mods contributed to the failure - unlikely but possible.

[dreamnmotion]

so should I take out my dci? It's a huge pain putting the stock back. Thanks.

[Slow_335i]

live it love it learn it! L0L

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson–Moss_Warranty_Act

[BreakPoint]

leave it on. dont lose sleep over it.

[hipnotic]

just leave it, you should be fine

[dreamnmotion]

thanks very much for your replies. I'll leave it on then.

[RacerUnderTheSon]

I read a post where warranty was denied due to an aftermarket K&N filter...

[samchoi604]

Originally Posted by ceb

Absolutely and totally wrong.

They can deny the warranty fix by claiming that the mods contributed to the failure - unlikely but possible.

Isn't that exactly what he just said regarding warranty? Recall ≠ warranty. Recalls must be performed by law, whether there was even a failure or not.

[ChasVS]

No way intake can be blamed for HPFP failure.. Particularly since the HPFP problem is documented and a recall item.

OP, be sure to let us know how it turns out so we can all learn from your experience here!

[JaSSon]

Pain jn the ass to go back to stock, bigger pain in the ass to fight with BMW NA and your dealership. The dealer and BMW NA are well versed in the magnuson-moss act and have better lawyers on retainer. It's not worth it, pull the intake.

[aj555]

Originally Posted by ceb

Absolutely and totally wrong.

They can deny the warranty fix by claiming that the mods contributed to the failure - unlikely but possible.

He's correct, because look how many people had the hpfp fail on a regular basis with completely stock cars.

[tunachris]

Its likely gonna depend on the dearler. I had a HPFP and ECU upgrade with a DCI in my car, but my dealer is OK with mods. I think they are aware that the recalls are above and beyond the work I have done to the car.

[David1]

Originally Posted by Slow_335i

live it love it learn it! L0L

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson–Moss_Warranty_Act

Magnuson does not apply to parts that modify a car and/or are not oem design specification especially a part that does not have a CARB exemption.

[ceb]

Originally Posted by samchoi604

Isn't that exactly what he just said regarding warranty? Recall ≠ warranty. Recalls must be performed by law, whether there was even a failure or not.

We are not talking recall here. We are talking about getting a HPFP replaced due to a recall but under the extended warranty.

Now, the OP did follow up after our posts to say that he had gotten a recall letter that he ignored. That changes the dynamics as well, but it is ALWAYS foolish to take a car in for repair with obvious mods - especially mods that are known to cause warranty woes.

[ceb]

Originally Posted by Slow_335i

live it love it learn it! L0L

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson–Moss_Warranty_Act

Read the mods and warranty sticky. From that you'll learn why the MM act does not apply to performance parts.

[ceb]

Originally Posted by ChasVS

No way intake can be blamed for HPFP failure.. Particularly since the HPFP problem is documented and a recall item.

OP, be sure to let us know how it turns out so we can all learn from your experience here!

Originally Posted by 335coupe2007

Bro.. DCI's wont do anything to void ur warranty.If anything it helps the car breathe.... so they could suck it if they give u any shi*; HOWEVER and this is a BIG however-- If you have the oiled version of the DCI, a something messes up b/c u might of over oiled it after cleaning it and the oil goes up somewhere inside the engine, and ruins whatever...they could blame you for it and wont pay the claim. Just becareful if u use the oiled version to not over-oil after cleaning it. Just my 0.02

Let's talk theory here and assume that you are dealing with a dealer who has had problems with BMW for warranty reimbursement in the past.

An aftermarket intake is intended to allow more air into the engine (if it does or not is immaterial.) This extra air changes the air-to-fuel ratio

The computer tries to compensate by sending more fuel to the engine. HPFP goes bezerk

We used to play "six degrees of Kevin Bacon" to see how many steps it took to tie any mod to any failure. In this case, I did it in two steps and I can tie ANY mod to ANY failure in six steps or less.

If I can do it, so can any dealer who is worried about getting reimbursed from BMW.

[BMWsky]

The easy answer is to put it back to stock. I actually asked this same question "in a hypothetical manner" to my SA a few days ago. He basically said that it depends on the person. In other words, if you're cool to your CA, they tend to be cool back. He told me where they do have problems with mods (mainly little things, like intakes, DP's etc, all bets are off with tunes) are with people who are difficult with the dealership.

With that said, I would still take it off and not chance it.

[Skydive]

Just swap the intake. It's an hour of work at most, and while the part is the subject of a recall and will absolutely be replaced regardless of your modifications, there is absolutely no sense having yourself or your car flagged a "modder". Down the road, should you need repairs outside of recall, it is neither likely or unlikely that a dealer will observe a note that modifications were made, and look for reasons to deny on that basis.

-Michael