need help from the tuning guru's

div · 09-07-2011, 10:37 PM

here's my dilemma, i want RB turbo's but i got a dinan stage 2 tune. first can i even run those turbo's with that tune? i know it'd be a waste probably since they'll only be at 13-14 psi. Second how hard is it to switch out an ecu on these cars? what i mean by this does it have EWS II or something of that sort. I know on my e36 i've switched out the ecu plenty of times and all i would have to do is align the ews and car would start. I'd like to get a different tune with the rb turbos but dont want a 2000 dinan tune to go to waste so would try to swap ecu's with someone. any help would be appreciated

themyst · 09-07-2011, 10:39 PM

I guess you could buy a second DME and get it reprogrammed. But honestly, it won't be a waste getting the car flashed back to stock. Virtually any of the major tune offerings drives better than the Dinan

I can speak because I've driven a car with the Dinan stage 2 tune. Definitely peppier than stock, but any of the major tunes (Procede, Jb4, Cobb) run circles around it.

tibra1 · 09-07-2011, 10:44 PM

+1..From Dinan tune to RB turbos???..talk about one end of the spectrum to the other..

Q4P · 09-07-2011, 11:01 PM

Why would you get upgraded turbos to run them at 13-14 psi? Are you even FBO?

Syndicategt · 09-07-2011, 11:23 PM

Step 1 - Get FBO + Meth first
Step 2 - Reflash DME and erase the Dinan
Step 3 - Buy a Piggy or wait for Cobb Stage 2 or ATR

If interested, you better get in line for the RB waiting list.

** You can still use the Dinan with the RB's, just won't be boosting over 14 psi. However, that 14 psi will pull stronger than any stock turbo could.

Dr. G · 09-08-2011, 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syndicategt

Step 1 - Get FBO + Meth first
Step 2 - Reflash DME and erase the Dinan
Step 3 - Buy a Piggy or wait for Cobb Stage 2 or ATR

If interested, you better get in line for the RB waiting list.

** You can still use the Dinan with the RB's, just won't be boosting over 14 psi. However, that 14 psi will pull stronger than any stock turbo could.

Solid Advice.

dzenno · 09-08-2011, 07:28 AM

Well "just" 14psi on pump gas with RBs isn't really Mickey mouse power

should be in the 430whp range which is what most stock turbo cars don't make even with 20psi meth and race gas..

div · 09-08-2011, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dzenno

Well "just" 14psi on pump gas with RBs isn't really Mickey mouse power

should be in the 430whp range which is what most stock turbo cars don't make even with 20psi meth and race gas..

thanks man, that's what i wanted to hear

kartracer · 09-09-2011, 08:32 AM

I've seen FBO a couple times now, but what does it stand for?

rismo · 09-09-2011, 08:38 AM

Full Bolt Ons

DP, DCI, IC, exhaust.... correct me if i'm wrong

Elie335 · 09-09-2011, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rismo123

Full Bolt Ons

DP, DCI, IC, exhaust.... correct me if i'm wrong

right, + meth

Beemw335 · 09-09-2011, 09:40 AM

Get a poggyback and see how you like it.
If not, its free to have dinan reflash the car since you already paid for it.

Joshboody · 09-09-2011, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dzenno

Well "just" 14psi on pump gas with RBs isn't really Mickey mouse power

should be in the 430whp range which is what most stock turbo cars don't make even with 20psi meth and race gas..

If you are making 14psi above 5500rpm, but I doubt Dinan is.

Dzenno, you ran std Cobb stg 1 with RBs right? any issues with WG control, throttle closing?

cstmx_ryder · 09-09-2011, 10:36 AM

Plus there's a 30 day money back for the piggies( procede and JB)....so you really have nothing to lose IMO.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beemw335

Get a poggyback and see how you like it.
If not, its free to have dinan reflash the car since you already paid for it.

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 09-09-2011, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syndicategt

Step 1 - Get FBO + Meth first
Step 2 - Reflash DME and erase the Dinan
Step 3 - Buy a Piggy or wait for Cobb Stage 2 or ATR

If interested, you better get in line for the RB waiting list.

** You can still use the Dinan with the RB's, just won't be boosting over 14 psi. However, that 14 psi will pull stronger than any stock turbo could.

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 09-09-2011, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by div

here's my dilemma, i want RB turbo's but i got a dinan stage 2 tune. first can i even run those turbo's with that tune? i know it'd be a waste probably since they'll only be at 13-14 psi. Second how hard is it to switch out an ecu on these cars? what i mean by this does it have EWS II or something of that sort. I know on my e36 i've switched out the ecu plenty of times and all i would have to do is align the ews and car would start. I'd like to get a different tune with the rb turbos but dont want a 2000 dinan tune to go to waste so would try to swap ecu's with someone. any help would be appreciated

Assuming you are in Kitchener, ON then you are sorta local to me. You can always grab a JB4 and see how it feels. The JB4 can be put on the car with Dinan in place. Your JB4 map0 will be dinan, and the JB4 map1/map2 will be the JB4. Easy comparison if you want to see the difference.

As for getting new turbos you will definitely want something that can boost into the 17+ PSI range and there is no point getting the turbos if you aren't going to raise the boost. Especially with Dinan as they taper boost in the high RPM like crazy and thats where the RB tubes shine.

As mentioned here meth is also a great addition. It really sounds like you need to eventually ditch the Dinan and go with a more powerful tune.

Mike

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themyst Major General 177 Rep 6,631 Posts Drives: '16 MK7 GTI Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NYC iTrader: (8)	I guess you could buy a second DME and get it reprogrammed. But honestly, it won't be a waste getting the car flashed back to stock. Virtually any of the major tune offerings drives better than the Dinan I can speak because I've driven a car with the Dinan stage 2 tune. Definitely peppier than stock, but any of the major tunes (Procede, Jb4, Cobb) run circles around it. __________________ E90 LCI N54 6AT
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Syndicategt Brigadier General 153 Rep 3,730 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Nor Cal iTrader: (11)	Step 1 - Get FBO + Meth first Step 2 - Reflash DME and erase the Dinan Step 3 - Buy a Piggy or wait for Cobb Stage 2 or ATR If interested, you better get in line for the RB waiting list. You can still use the Dinan with the RB's, just won't be boosting over 14 psi. However, that 14 psi will pull stronger than any stock turbo could. __________________ 2008 BMW 335i e90 - Sold** - Rob Beck Turbos / PROcede V5 / Aquamist HFS-4 / AR Downpipes / AE Exhaust / ER Comp FMIC / ER CP / TiAL BOV / Custom Intake / RPI Scoops / Quaife LSD / Swift-Koni Coilovers / DSS HS / Morr VS8.2 Sig Black / Michelin PSS / P3 Boost Guage / M3 body / M3 steering wheel / Adam's Rotors / Hawk HPS / SS lines /
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dzenno Banned 273 Rep 5,876 Posts Drives: Join Date: Feb 2006 iTrader: (1)	Well "just" 14psi on pump gas with RBs isn't really Mickey mouse power should be in the 430whp range which is what most stock turbo cars don't make even with 20psi meth and race gas..
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