Abs dtc lights??

Randomaccess335 · 09-01-2011, 09:49 AM

If I take my car to the dealer with dp\'s on to get brake problem checked will I have an issue???

I have cpo for another year and a half and I live in west palm beach Florida

All suggestions welcome
Thanks

enrita · 09-01-2011, 09:56 AM

depends on the dealer

Zasquatch · 09-01-2011, 10:00 AM

I've got this same issue (ABS, DTC, BRAKE lights come on randomly and go away randomly).... Let me know what you find out! I'm just out of warranty....

Randomaccess335 · 09-01-2011, 10:01 AM

My local dealers are Braman and vista, any body have friends at one of these dealers??

Randomaccess335 · 09-01-2011, 10:03 AM

My lights came on this morning 8am as of now still on

I'll keep ya posted

Syndicategt · 09-01-2011, 10:09 AM

Your SZL module (steering wheel angle sensor) needs to be replaced. Dealer charges $1300 if out of warranty. They also need to reprogam the DME. Had mine go out at 51K miles

(brake light, DTC, ABS) the problem started with random lights that would go away, eventually they stayed on for good and I had it fixed. This could potentially be dangerous guys, the angle sensor will sense if the car is in a roll and can disconnect the battery relay.

Zasquatch · 09-01-2011, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Syndicategt

Your SZL module (steering wheel angle sensor) needs to be replaced. Dealer charges $1300 if out of warranty. They also need to reprogam the DME. Had mine go out at 51K miles

(brake light, DTC, ABS) the problem started with random lights that would go away, eventually they stayed on for good and I had it fixed. This could potentially be dangerous guys, the angle sensor will sense if the car is in a roll and can disconnect the battery relay.

I'm hoping its just a dirty wheel speed sensor... The lights seem to go away when it's wet out. Havn't tried to trouble shoot anything yet though.

Syndicategt · 09-01-2011, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Zasquatch

I'm hoping its just a dirty wheel speed sensor... The lights seem to go away when it's wet out. Havn't tried to trouble shoot anything yet though.

There's a DIY in the DIY section that may help you out, however, I think it involves opening the steering wheel and messing with the ribbon tape inside there.

scottp999 · 09-01-2011, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Zasquatch

I've got this same issue (ABS, DTC, BRAKE lights come on randomly and go away randomly).... Let me know what you find out! I'm just out of warranty....

I've had this behavior before just from a marginal battery. Your '07 battery may just need to be replaced. In addition to that behavior, mine got to the point where the volume on the radio would go out and I would get voltage errors on the sunroof once in a while.

Put in a good battery and it all went away.

Zasquatch · 09-01-2011, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Syndicategt

There's a DIY in the DIY section that may help you out, however, I think it involves opening the steering wheel and messing with the ribbon tape inside there.

Just checked that DIY out (here)... Similar problem to mine although my adaptive headlights and auto-blinkers work fine with the DTC/ABS/BRAKE lights on.. Also looks like people with the steering sensor malfunction aren't getting the ABS light. My guess is that my problem (and possibly the OP's) is either dirty wheel speed sensors, faulty speed sensors, or the DTC module... Why the hell would the problem go away in wet conditions? That's what gets me... makes me think its just time for a cleaning, although if they are magnetic sensors I'm not sure how that would help much.

._. · 09-01-2011, 10:57 AM

had the same lights, was the dcs pump that needed replacing. Just read the codes and find out what the issue is.

Zasquatch · 09-01-2011, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by scottp999

I've had this behavior before just from a marginal battery. Your '07 battery may just need to be replaced. In addition to that behavior, mine got to the point where the volume on the radio would go out and I would get voltage errors on the sunroof once in a while.

Put in a good battery and it all went away.

Really?? That would be nice if that's all it is. Any way to test the battery to see if its life is almost over?

Zasquatch · 09-01-2011, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by r45t4m4n

had the same lights, was the dcs pump that needed replacing. Just read the codes and find out what the issue is.

Using the Cobb AP there are no codes being thrown.

Randomaccess335 · 09-01-2011, 11:48 AM

Read mine with jb4.... No codes

Randomaccess335 · 09-01-2011, 12:42 PM

Back to normal all lights are off

scottp999 · 09-01-2011, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Zasquatch

Really?? That would be nice if that's all it is. Any way to test the battery to see if its life is almost over?

I'm at work so no access to the Bentley Manual. If you have it then they specify various battery and alternator tests.

If based on the production date on your car, you are coming up on 5 years old, it may be worthwhile to replace the battery now anyway.

Tischer BMW is local to me and I can get a new one for <$200 and then register it with the BT tool. You should call your local BMW parts dept to see what it would cost to pick one up. Install it yourself and if you don't have a BT tool, see if someone in the regional forum will allow you to use their BT tool.

Zasquatch · 09-01-2011, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by scottp999

I'm at work so no access to the Bentley Manual. If you have it then they specify various battery and alternator tests.

If based on the production date on your car, you are coming up on 5 years old, it may be worthwhile to replace the battery now anyway.

Tischer BMW is local to me and I can get a new one for <$200 and then register it with the BT tool. You should call your local BMW parts dept to see what it would cost to pick one up. Install it yourself and if you don't have a BT tool, see if someone in the regional forum will allow you to use their BT tool.

Yeah come to think of it I was in the trunk the other day and noticed the "magic eye" was no longer green, it was black... "Insufficient Charge"...I'll check the Bentley when I get home. Thanks for the heads up.

Zasquatch · 09-01-2011, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Randomaccess335

Back to normal all lights are off

Randomly? or did you do fix it?

Randomaccess335 · 09-01-2011, 01:55 PM

I didn't fix it.... Yet it was random

Syndicategt · 09-01-2011, 02:50 PM

Zasquatch,

Sounds like you have an identical problem to what I had....same error lights + my blinkers didn't work either. Started off intermittent then finally was full out on all the time. I would get it looked at, hopefully it's only the battery, but for me turned out to be the SZL

*Edit - I could clear with the BT tool but they would pop back up.

Zasquatch · 09-01-2011, 03:07 PM

Yeah I'm hoping that's not the case

if it is I'll be doing some soldering... I have the 3 lights intermittent and when they are on, no abs, no hill assist, no dtc, no cruise... Blinkers work fine, which is why I'm hesitant to point the finger at the SZL, but with my luck that will be the problem.

Zasquatch · 09-02-2011, 07:33 AM

Lights randomly turned off again this morning... Did a log with the AP to see battery voltage. Minimum was down near 12.2V, max 14.1V, average around 13.7V.

Does anyone have a log laying around that they could check their values to compare?

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Randomaccess335 Captain 69 Rep 868 Posts Drives: 07' 335I Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: boynton beach, Fl iTrader: (11)	Abs dtc lights?? If I take my car to the dealer with dp\'s on to get brake problem checked will I have an issue??? I have cpo for another year and a half and I live in west palm beach Florida All suggestions welcome Thanks __________________ JB4 G5 ISO , AR DP's, DO Meth kit Trunk Mount, ETS 5" Intercooler, M6 Rims, ER Charge Pipe, Fordged DV's, MMp relocated inlets, Ebay 4" chrome Tips, Lux Angel Eyes ********11.910 @ 117.091.851 60'*********
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Zasquatch Captain 36 Rep 708 Posts Drives: '07 BMW 335i Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: CT iTrader: (15) Garage List 2007 BMW 335i [0.00]	I've got this same issue (ABS, DTC, BRAKE lights come on randomly and go away randomly).... Let me know what you find out! I'm just out of warranty....
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Randomaccess335 Captain 69 Rep 868 Posts Drives: 07' 335I Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: boynton beach, Fl iTrader: (11)	My local dealers are Braman and vista, any body have friends at one of these dealers?? __________________ JB4 G5 ISO , AR DP's, DO Meth kit Trunk Mount, ETS 5" Intercooler, M6 Rims, ER Charge Pipe, Fordged DV's, MMp relocated inlets, Ebay 4" chrome Tips, Lux Angel Eyes ********11.910 @ 117.091.851 60'*********
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Randomaccess335 Captain 69 Rep 868 Posts Drives: 07' 335I Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: boynton beach, Fl iTrader: (11)	My lights came on this morning 8am as of now still on I'll keep ya posted __________________ JB4 G5 ISO , AR DP's, DO Meth kit Trunk Mount, ETS 5" Intercooler, M6 Rims, ER Charge Pipe, Fordged DV's, MMp relocated inlets, Ebay 4" chrome Tips, Lux Angel Eyes ********11.910 @ 117.091.851 60'*********
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Syndicategt Brigadier General 153 Rep 3,730 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Nor Cal iTrader: (11)	Your SZL module (steering wheel angle sensor) needs to be replaced. Dealer charges $1300 if out of warranty. They also need to reprogam the DME. Had mine go out at 51K miles (brake light, DTC, ABS) the problem started with random lights that would go away, eventually they stayed on for good and I had it fixed. This could potentially be dangerous guys, the angle sensor will sense if the car is in a roll and can disconnect the battery relay. __________________ 2008 BMW 335i e90 - Sold - Rob Beck Turbos / PROcede V5 / Aquamist HFS-4 / AR Downpipes / AE Exhaust / ER Comp FMIC / ER CP / TiAL BOV / Custom Intake / RPI Scoops / Quaife LSD / Swift-Koni Coilovers / DSS HS / Morr VS8.2 Sig Black / Michelin PSS / P3 Boost Guage / M3 body / M3 steering wheel / Adam's Rotors / Hawk HPS / SS lines /
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._. Colonel 74 Rep 2,353 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Miami iTrader: (15)	had the same lights, was the dcs pump that needed replacing. Just read the codes and find out what the issue is.
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Randomaccess335 Captain 69 Rep 868 Posts Drives: 07' 335I Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: boynton beach, Fl iTrader: (11)	Read mine with jb4.... No codes __________________ JB4 G5 ISO , AR DP's, DO Meth kit Trunk Mount, ETS 5" Intercooler, M6 Rims, ER Charge Pipe, Fordged DV's, MMp relocated inlets, Ebay 4" chrome Tips, Lux Angel Eyes ********11.910 @ 117.091.851 60'*********
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Randomaccess335 Captain 69 Rep 868 Posts Drives: 07' 335I Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: boynton beach, Fl iTrader: (11)	Back to normal all lights are off __________________ JB4 G5 ISO , AR DP's, DO Meth kit Trunk Mount, ETS 5" Intercooler, M6 Rims, ER Charge Pipe, Fordged DV's, MMp relocated inlets, Ebay 4" chrome Tips, Lux Angel Eyes ********11.910 @ 117.091.851 60'*********
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Randomaccess335 Captain 69 Rep 868 Posts Drives: 07' 335I Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: boynton beach, Fl iTrader: (11)	I didn't fix it.... Yet it was random __________________ JB4 G5 ISO , AR DP's, DO Meth kit Trunk Mount, ETS 5" Intercooler, M6 Rims, ER Charge Pipe, Fordged DV's, MMp relocated inlets, Ebay 4" chrome Tips, Lux Angel Eyes ********11.910 @ 117.091.851 60'*********
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Syndicategt Brigadier General 153 Rep 3,730 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Nor Cal iTrader: (11)	Zasquatch, Sounds like you have an identical problem to what I had....same error lights + my blinkers didn't work either. Started off intermittent then finally was full out on all the time. I would get it looked at, hopefully it's only the battery, but for me turned out to be the SZL Edit - I could clear with the BT tool but they would pop back up. __________________ 2008 BMW 335i e90 - Sold* - Rob Beck Turbos / PROcede V5 / Aquamist HFS-4 / AR Downpipes / AE Exhaust / ER Comp FMIC / ER CP / TiAL BOV / Custom Intake / RPI Scoops / Quaife LSD / Swift-Koni Coilovers / DSS HS / Morr VS8.2 Sig Black / Michelin PSS / P3 Boost Guage / M3 body / M3 steering wheel / Adam's Rotors / Hawk HPS / SS lines / Last edited by Syndicategt; 09-01-2011 at 03:02 PM..
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Zasquatch Captain 36 Rep 708 Posts Drives: '07 BMW 335i Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: CT iTrader: (15) Garage List 2007 BMW 335i [0.00]	Yeah I'm hoping that's not the case if it is I'll be doing some soldering... I have the 3 lights intermittent and when they are on, no abs, no hill assist, no dtc, no cruise... Blinkers work fine, which is why I'm hesitant to point the finger at the SZL, but with my luck that will be the problem.
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Zasquatch Captain 36 Rep 708 Posts Drives: '07 BMW 335i Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: CT iTrader: (15) Garage List 2007 BMW 335i [0.00]	Lights randomly turned off again this morning... Did a log with the AP to see battery voltage. Minimum was down near 12.2V, max 14.1V, average around 13.7V. Does anyone have a log laying around that they could check their values to compare?
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