Big Tom vs Other fast cars + Potential gearbox/clutch error

Big Tom · 08-27-2011, 12:42 PM

Bmw M5 E61 Eisenman Exhaust ESS Flash 545 hp:

Bentley Continental GT V12 BiTurbo 600 hp:

Bad Flywheel:

Filmed from the M5:

iflo · 08-27-2011, 01:15 PM

So you hear the noise even when you are not moving?

Big Tom · 08-27-2011, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by iflo

So you hear the noise even when you are not moving?

It's more audible when I'm standing still in neutral gear.

TT3 iN NyC · 08-27-2011, 01:36 PM

Big tom, can you help tune my car??? Looks like you never loose! Good stuff!

iflo · 08-27-2011, 01:42 PM

I had a similar noise a few months ago....but it just ended up being the heat shield rattle. You probably have something else going on since it goes away when you press the clutch. The noise I had was present regardless.

ADVANT123 · 08-27-2011, 01:50 PM

Sounds like a clutch throw-out bearing, had this problem in my 1997 M3 with a stock clutch.

Brey335i · 08-27-2011, 02:01 PM

Man that Bentley disappeared

G.I.Joe · 08-27-2011, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Brey335i

Man that Bentley disappeared

I honestly thought it would have been a lot faster than it appeared to be....

Aridk · 08-27-2011, 02:11 PM

Hi Tom
Sorry about your clutch, weird it would give up with just a "small" amount of abuse

You plan on getting the Act clutch from the US or have you found an European dealer? going with a lighter flywheel as whell?

On one af the rewievs here from a clutchmasters, I could see in a picture it said Sachs on it, but if you visit their homepage they don´t listen anything above 500nm

Chefcg1 · 08-27-2011, 02:23 PM

Wow, I am very suprized at the Bentley. I was thinking of picking a used one up to play with, but now I'm second guessing that.

Hey Big tom what Boost are you running? Stock Turbo's?

Sounds like throw out bearring. That is exactly the way it sounded on my Eclipse when they went bad. I had 3 go bad.

onebadmofo · 08-27-2011, 02:26 PM

Sounds exactly like throw out bearing on my Stealth TT. On those cars it was only noise, it didn't do any harm.

Tzu · 08-27-2011, 02:46 PM

I just had my tranny replaced 5000km ago. My car makes a much milder form of the same noise you are experiencing. I think the dual mass flywheel springs are not toleranced correctly.

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 08-27-2011, 02:50 PM

Sounds like throw out bearing to me as well.

Big Tom · 08-27-2011, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aridk

Hi Tom
Sorry about your clutch, weird it would give up with just a "small" amount of abuse

You plan on getting the Act clutch from the US or have you found an European dealer? going with a lighter flywheel as whell?

On one af the rewievs here from a clutchmasters, I could see in a picture it said Sachs on it, but if you visit their homepage they don´t listen anything above 500nm

I've got a pretty good deal on a ACT clutch from AR, but if you know a dealer based in Europe just tell me!

Big Tom · 08-27-2011, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chefcg1

Wow, I am very suprized at the Bentley. I was thinking of picking a used one up to play with, but now I'm second guessing that.

Hey Big tom what Boost are you running? Stock Turbo's?

Sounds like throw out bearring. That is exactly the way it sounded on my Eclipse when they went bad. I had 3 go bad.

17.5 psi with stock turbos.

Aridk · 08-27-2011, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Tom

I've got a pretty good deal on a ACT clutch from AR, but if you know a dealer based in Europe just tell me!

No unfortunatly i don´t I was hoping you knew one you always seem "on top" of things.
But since sachs suplies the clutches for clutchmasters I shold be possible to have´em pech one here in Europe??

Big Tom · 08-27-2011, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tzu

I just had my tranny replaced 5000km ago. My car makes a much milder form of the same noise you are experiencing. I think the dual mass flywheel springs are not toleranced correctly.

I really hope that the flywheel is intact...

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 08-27-2011, 03:13 PM

Could be the springs on the clutch. BMW is notorious to have them go. Not sure about the e90 platform but definitely on the older E30 E36 ETC

sonyakova · 08-27-2011, 03:20 PM

You should check out top gear solutions for the clutch. My boy just got hooked up from him and he price matches or beats if you let him know.

dzenno · 08-27-2011, 03:25 PM

Whatever it is, great runs looks like good times, just drop the tranny slap the ACT in with the stock dmfw and off you go to tons more good times

Big Tom · 08-27-2011, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by sonyakova

You should check out top gear solutions for the clutch. My boy just got hooked up from him and he price matches or beats if you let him know.

Checking with them right now if they're willing to match AR's price.

Q4P · 08-27-2011, 03:32 PM

Nice run against the Bentley but that beast weighs 5200 lbs lol, my Touareg SUV weighed quite a bit less than that and that was already a heavy car.

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iflo Second Lieutenant 21 Rep 203 Posts Drives: BMW 335i Coupe Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Louisville iTrader: (1)	I had a similar noise a few months ago....but it just ended up being the heat shield rattle. You probably have something else going on since it goes away when you press the clutch. The noise I had was present regardless.
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Aridk Lieutenant 7 Rep 520 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Denmark iTrader: (0)	Hi Tom Sorry about your clutch, weird it would give up with just a "small" amount of abuse You plan on getting the Act clutch from the US or have you found an European dealer? going with a lighter flywheel as whell? On one af the rewievs here from a clutchmasters, I could see in a picture it said Sachs on it, but if you visit their homepage they don´t listen anything above 500nm
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onebadmofo Colonel 346 Rep 2,396 Posts Drives: 2008 E90 M3 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Central NJ iTrader: (14)	Sounds exactly like throw out bearing on my Stealth TT. On those cars it was only noise, it didn't do any harm.
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Tzu Lieutenant Colonel 29 Rep 1,551 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Toronto iTrader: (1)	I just had my tranny replaced 5000km ago. My car makes a much milder form of the same noise you are experiencing. I think the dual mass flywheel springs are not toleranced correctly.
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Jeff@TopGearSolutions 3441 Rep 79,211 Posts Drives: C6 Z06, 09 335i, 10 335xi Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: www.TopGearSolutions.com iTrader: (37)	Could be the springs on the clutch. BMW is notorious to have them go. Not sure about the e90 platform but definitely on the older E30 E36 ETC
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sonyakova Banned 2 Rep 43 Posts Drives: 2008 335i/e30 ces stage 1..... Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: queens,ny iTrader: (0)	You should check out top gear solutions for the clutch. My boy just got hooked up from him and he price matches or beats if you let him know.
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