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      08-26-2011, 03:33 AM   #1
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Cobb Stage 2 question

In preparation for Cobb Stage 2 , I 've noticed a requirement or recommendation is a catted-turboback exhaust. My question is, will a Full Exhaust System (Starts at OE Downpipe, Ends at Tips) be sufficient with stock dp or should I spend another grand on catted dp ? Thanks in advance.

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      08-26-2011, 03:39 AM   #2
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for stage 2 you should focus on the dps . Catless would be best .
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The biggest restriction and biggest gain is removing the stock downpipes and replacing with catless downpipes. Off the record the need for a catback exhaust is more suggested then mandatory.
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With the higher boost, arent the turbos at high risk of burning out if they are restricted by a stock exhuast? Therefore, at least bigger catless DPs should be considered with the mids removed as well for added safety?
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With the higher boost, arent the turbos at high risk of burning out if they are restricted by a stock exhuast? Therefore, at least bigger catless DPs should be considered with the mids removed as well for added safety?
Same thing I was thinking...
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What about emissions? If I replace my stock downpipes with catless downpipes then how will my car pass emissions testing in my state?
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What about emissions? If I replace my stock downpipes with catless downpipes then how will my car pass emissions testing in my state?
It's the price you pay for the added performance. I'm sure there will be an "only for off-road use" disclaimer like I've seen with other tunes on other platforms.
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In preparation for Cobb Stage 2 , I 've noticed a requirement or recommendation is a catted-turboback exhaust. My question is, will a Full Exhaust System (Starts at OE Downpipe, Ends at Tips) be sufficient with stock dp or should I spend another grand on catted dp ? Thanks in advance.

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I'm talking catted dp
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What about emissions? If I replace my stock downpipes with catless downpipes then how will my car pass emissions testing in my state?
Before taking the emissions test you install the stock downpipes.
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Hey guys anyone knows smth about racing fuel maps on stage2???
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Stage 2 shouldn't require racing fuel
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So no racing maps in stage 2???
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they indicated they would have racing and meth maps. Timing wasnt clear.
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gib0r me a Stage 2 + meth map!
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With cobbs dp fix in stage 2, you shouldn't have a problem passing emissions via an obd port test, you may only run into a problem if they give you the sniffer, which I have never seen done. Catted dp will improve flow over stock, but IMO they are a waste of money, catless are cheaper and flow much more freely.
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With cobbs dp fix in stage 2, you shouldn't have a problem passing emissions via an obd port test, you may only run into a problem if they give you the sniffer, which I have never seen done. Catted dp will improve flow over stock, but IMO they are a waste of money, catless are cheaper and flow much more freely.
Is it suppressing the cat codes like the piggybacks or is it basically keeping the o2 sensors in a ready status?

If it's the latter, then we won't need a standalone DP fix
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Is it suppressing the cat codes like the piggybacks or is it basically keeping the o2 sensors in a ready status?

If it's the latter, then we won't need a standalone DP fix
I know a shop in NY that can help you out on inspection, dont even worry about it!
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From what I've read the stock cats in the midpipe do not get hot enough for the chemical reaction that "cleans" up the exhaust to occur, so I'm thinking that catless dps and stock mids will not be a problem. I mean stage 1 is designed for a 100% stock car and stage 2 really shouldn't be THAT much more aggresive. But no-one know until Cobb actually gives us some info
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Is it suppressing the cat codes like the piggybacks or is it basically keeping the o2 sensors in a ready status?

If it's the latter, then we won't need a standalone DP fix
You will pass an OBDII scan. Everything will be ready/OK with no codes even if you are catless. Cobb has the ability to simply turn off specific codes from ever popping. Have been doing this for years in the subie world with cobb stage 2 tunes.

Will you pass a visual (if they know what to look for) or a sniffer test? No.
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Maybe I should reword my question... will a full exhaust system that starts at OE Downpipe, ends at tips (i.e. HKS, AE, etc) be sufficient with stock dp or should I spend another grand on catted since it's recommended to have a catted turbo back exhaust? Nothing about meth, catless, or emissions.
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Just found my own answer... For those who wondering about stage 2 mods
- Dual cone intake
- Upgraded front mounted intercooler
- Downpipes (high flow catted downpipes are acceptable)
- Cat back exhaust system (with secondary cats removed or replaced with high flow cats)
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