[kyleshim]

http://www.bmwultimatemisery.com/


BMW owners are starting to voice their outrage over the company’s treatment of its loyal American workers.

One California couple who were planning to buy their son a BMW for graduation wrote to the company and said:

“It is obvious BMW enjoys a very healthy and profitable existence….The survival of
BMW is clearly not at stake, and we believe the decision to outsource the work of
your long term employees is one that is unnecessary. BMW’s decision appears to be
a matter of the company’s desire to increase what are already high profits…. The Ontario employees have been loyal to BMW for more than forty years allowing the company to prosper. The time has come for BMW to treat its employees with the dignity they deserve instead of thrusting them into economic devastation.”

I'm not trying to bash on BMW but I find this distressing.

[mjollnir19]

Originally Posted by kyleshim

http://www.bmwultimatemisery.com/


BMW owners are starting to voice their outrage over the company’s treatment of its loyal American workers.

One California couple who were planning to buy their son a BMW for graduation wrote to the company and said:

“It is obvious BMW enjoys a very healthy and profitable existence….The survival of
BMW is clearly not at stake, and we believe the decision to outsource the work of
your long term employees is one that is unnecessary. BMW’s decision appears to be
a matter of the company’s desire to increase what are already high profits…. The Ontario employees have been loyal to BMW for more than forty years allowing the company to prosper. The time has come for BMW to treat its employees with the dignity they deserve instead of thrusting them into economic devastation.”

I'm not trying to bash on BMW but I find this distressing.

I read an article about this the other day, i think the outcome of this will be cheaper made BMW's or cheaply maintained BMW's... idk understand why they are doing this... unless those unions are just taking huge strides to piss off BMW... i don't know man.. I'd figure a company like BMW would not lay off long termed workers considering their experience would be invaluable... i just really hope this doesn't become a trend across the whole BMW company cuz it'll eventually lead to poorly made or maintained cars... and there goes your ultimate driving machine motto

[eamon]

I thoight they were giving more jobs to americans by creating more workhouses here
Sad to hear all this.
I still wont fall to audi lol

[toxsuey]

I dropped by my dealership on Lankershim to pick up my car and there were a few guys outside protesting and handing out everyone who came onto the lot flyers and news articles.

[M340i Pride]

I saw this. It made me mad. I dont think germans in their nice homes in germany care about loyal american workers here. if they see profit, they will go to that direction regardless of any sentimental issues.

[M340i Pride]

Originally Posted by toxsuey

I dropped by my dealership on Lankershim to pick up my car and there were a few guys outside protesting and handing out everyone who came onto the lot flyers and news articles.

at century west? really? are they laying off people there too...?

[IancoleTX]

The relentless pursuit of short-term profit at any cost, endemic in any publicly-traded company these days. These guys are all out of a job so that quarter end results will be .0025 higher. There needs to be time limitations on stock investment (e.g. can't sell your stock until a certain period of time passes).. it's ruining our economy.

[ChipB]

This board seems to infested with socialists! So BMW has decided to out source some work to another company. Obviously the existing workers aren't going to be pleased, but this is the American (and apparently German) way. Anyone who works for a large corporation has certainly seen aspects of operations being outsourced. What companies have not already outsourced payroll, travel, customer call centers, shipping & receiving, and even HR functions? Here in Chicagoland the politicos have even outsourced the parking meters! Seriously, no major corporation can afford to not find ways to save money, and at the end of the day we as consumers do indeed benefit from cost savings. Like it or not BMW is in a competitive market and must find ways to reduce costs.

[Tom K.]

Originally Posted by ChipB

This board seems to infested with socialists!

So opposition to a management decision means one is a socialist? Sounds like Tail-Gunner Joe all over again!

Tom

[apc3libras]

Originally Posted by ChipB

This board seems to infested with socialists! So BMW has decided to out source some work to another company. Obviously the existing workers aren't going to be pleased, but this is the American (and apparently German) way. Anyone who works for a large corporation has certainly seen aspects of operations being outsourced. What companies have not already outsourced payroll, travel, customer call centers, shipping & receiving, and even HR functions? Here in Chicagoland the politicos have even outsourced the parking meters! Seriously, no major corporation can afford to not find ways to save money, and at the end of the day we as consumers do indeed benefit from cost savings. Like it or not BMW is in a competitive market and must find ways to reduce costs.

Agree. As shitty as it is to see people lose their jobs, stability. This is how the free market works, like it or not.

[scarzie]

is this kind of thing really news to people? There's a reason the American auto makers ended up in the position they did...

[Bajan Loch]

this was brought up in another thread:
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=560297

[Bajan Loch]

Originally Posted by ChipB

This board seems to infested with socialists! So BMW has decided to out source some work to another company. Obviously the existing workers aren't going to be pleased, but this is the American (and apparently German) way. Anyone who works for a large corporation has certainly seen aspects of operations being outsourced. What companies have not already outsourced payroll, travel, customer call centers, shipping & receiving, and even HR functions? Here in Chicagoland the politicos have even outsourced the parking meters! Seriously, no major corporation can afford to not find ways to save money, and at the end of the day we as consumers do indeed benefit from cost savings. Like it or not BMW is in a competitive market and must find ways to reduce costs.

+1

[3for3]

This is silly. Welcome to capitalism and America. That's how business works. I watched that video, and they were interviewing some of the workers and their families. One dude had like 8 kids. All of which I'm sure have to be insured by BMW and pay benefits for the entire family. That's just not smart business. As terrible as it sounds, don't have 8 kids and expect the company you work for to pay for benefits for your entire family! It's this kind of entitled attitude that is ruining everything, including putting our country in the hole financially. Clearly, BMW and other big corporations are not gonna just sit around and take this. Why would you pay more for the same labor? I don't know. Nobody here wants to pay more than MSRP for their cars. Hell, we all try to get as close to invoice as we can. That's just the way business is.

[Trojan4evr]

Haven't we been out sourcing for ages? It's just the way it is.

[AndyzDad]

Originally Posted by apc3libras

Agree. As shitty as it is to see people lose their jobs, stability. This is how the free market works, like it or not.

+1.. unfortunate for us this time as Americans are losing jobs.

[M40i4me]

Originally Posted by ChipB

This board seems to infested with socialists! So BMW has decided to out source some work to another company. Obviously the existing workers aren't going to be pleased, but this is the American (and apparently German) way. Anyone who works for a large corporation has certainly seen aspects of operations being outsourced. What companies have not already outsourced payroll, travel, customer call centers, shipping & receiving, and even HR functions? Here in Chicagoland the politicos have even outsourced the parking meters! Seriously, no major corporation can afford to not find ways to save money, and at the end of the day we as consumers do indeed benefit from cost savings. Like it or not BMW is in a competitive market and must find ways to reduce costs.

+1 don't forget I.T. Try to find an English speaking person on a support call.

[ZheHbKa]

with reduction of costs to consumers comes sacrifice in the workforce, this should be expected.
and with any action from anyone there will always be someone complaining...

[grieverr]

Originally Posted by ChipB

Anyone who works for a large corporation has certainly seen aspects of operations being outsourced...

That it happens doesn't mean that it's the right thing for our economy.

Originally Posted by ChipB

...at the end of the day we as consumers do indeed benefit from cost savings.

Unless we, the consumer, have no jobs to pay for the goods being offered by companies like BMW.

I'm surprised at how many people can be so aloof about the money that doesn't stay in this country.

[Bajan Loch]

Originally Posted by grieverr

I'm surprised at how many people can be so aloof about the money that doesn't stay in this country.

so where does the money go?

[ChipB]

Originally Posted by grieverr

I'm surprised at how many people can be so aloof about the money that doesn't stay in this country.

Actually in this case the outsourcing is in fact keeping jobs in the country - unionized Americans being replaced by non-unionized Americans. If you think back when BMW opened the Spartanburg plant you had Germans being replaced by Americans - did you think that unfair? If not, why not?

[M340i Pride]

Originally Posted by ChipB

Actually in this case the outsourcing is in fact keeping jobs in the country - unionized Americans being replaced by non-unionized Americans. If you think back when BMW opened the Spartanburg plant you had Germans being replaced by Americans - did you think that unfair? If not, why not?

thats.... a good point. although sad when I see us americans get the hammer this time.