New member interested in a 335 w/ a couple ?'s

philthy84 · 05-22-2011, 01:48 PM

I'm planning to trade in my 09 G37 this summer, I'm thinking around the 4th of July time frame. Been a good car to me no problems at all but I'm just tired of it haha. Anyways at the top of my list are the 335 not sure yet if a coupe or sedan and the Audi S4. Anyways right now I'm leaning more towards the 335 just looks like overall a better car from my own personal opinion.

My questions lie in the whole ordering process. I've been configuring cars on the BMW website and most of the ones I've made were around the $62-65,000 range and the 335is coupe I made was a tad over $70,000. No experience at all in having a new car made specifically the way you want it, usually our family just gets whatever works out best on the dealership lot. Now since the car is being made to order does that leave you the buyer with little to no room to negotiate the price I'm being showed on the BMW website? If they do work with you on pricing around how much can I reasonably expect to get off the price being shown? Also when a deal is made and I give them the keys to my G37 and the write up to order to be produced am I just stuck without a car for that time frame or does dealers provide you with a loaner type vehicle? Thanks for the time and I'd really appreciate any help, I hope to be a fellow owner soon!

silvercreek · 05-22-2011, 03:07 PM

Use truecar.com as your price basis

CRG3 · 05-23-2011, 12:46 AM

Down here in the SF Bay area, I ordered mine and was able to get the Costco price of $500 over invoice. You can get the invoice prices at Edmunds.com

kyleJB328 · 05-23-2011, 12:48 AM

Can 335is's go up to 70,000?! Don't quote me, but i'm pretty sure they don't. Also, if you have an AMEX card, check into their 'ZAG program'

Wild Squid · 05-23-2011, 01:45 AM

Are you adding every option in the book? For 70K you might as well get the M3.

michaelthepsycho · 05-23-2011, 12:21 PM

$70k on a 3 is a waste. Get a Porsche. Even a base C2 is better than a 335is.

... And no, custom-ordering doesn't mean you can't negotiate. I got mine $250 over invoice. My dealer also let me drive the trade-in for all the time during paperwork processing (three weeks). It all depends on your dealership and who you're dealing with. If it's someone high up, they'll do whatever they want for you.

335i Pal · 05-23-2011, 12:47 PM

Or for $70K you can get a barely used GT-R!

philthy84 · 05-24-2011, 07:50 PM

Thank for the replies guy! The 335is I have configured at the moment is about $69,000 MSRP from the BMW website. It does have almost every option added. I know I could get the M3 but most likely not equipped with the little things I want and this is going to be my daily driver so it would help to have a somewhat better fuel efficient car.

Here the link to the 335is I plan to order. What's the most reasonable deal I could get on it with everything I want?

http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...tionId=1594414

Eric335 · 05-24-2011, 08:18 PM

id get an M3 for that price, but i am not gana lie.... thats a nice 335 u put together

slimysnails · 05-24-2011, 08:26 PM

$70k for a 335?? for that i would get a used m, no question.

ABerry · 05-25-2011, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by slimysnails

$70k for a 335?? for that i would get a used m, no question.

used m? you mean new m with options?

Motastic · 05-25-2011, 01:08 AM

wow

gindajatt1 · 05-25-2011, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 335i Pal

Or for $70K you can get a barely used GT-R!

+1

mjollnir19 · 05-25-2011, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by gindajatt1

+1

FTW

Wild Squid · 05-25-2011, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by philthy84

Thank for the replies guy! The 335is I have configured at the moment is about $69,000 MSRP from the BMW website. It does have almost every option added. I know I could get the M3 but most likely not equipped with the little things I want and this is going to be my daily driver so it would help to have a somewhat better fuel efficient car.

Here the link to the 335is I plan to order. What's the most reasonable deal I could get on it with everything I want?

http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...tionId=1594414

Go to a 3rd party site like Vehix.com and price out all the same options, and it'll tell you what the Invoice price should likely be. Then go to dealer and tell him what you're willing to pay him over invoice. Anything up to $1000 over and you're doing alright. With all those options I'm going to guess your Invoice will be around $63K. Go for it.

Wingman335 · 05-25-2011, 11:13 AM

In response to your original question- yes, you can negotiate prices on built-to-order cars, just as you would for a car on the lot.

There is the same amount of room to negotiate, unless of course, it is a very new model in the market, or is in high demand (such as 1M).

Dealers are not obligated to provide you with a loaner while your new car is in transit, but some really good dealers do provide loaners, if you are stuck without a car.

Syndicategt · 05-25-2011, 11:28 AM

I love my 335i, which I got custom and fully loaded for $52k....not sure why the IS is running so much more these days. For that price range, there would be several other cars I would consider before buying that 335is. Find out the invoice, and offer the dealer $500 over. If they say no, walk out, and wait for their phone call in 15 min.

cotmfk · 05-25-2011, 11:32 AM

Unbelievable! $70k is crazy. That just means the F30 is going to be getting closer and closer to that range. The 3 series is being priced out of the market!

Midnight Magic · 05-25-2011, 11:42 AM

And that's before tax and other fees.

Cabrio2007 · 05-25-2011, 11:44 AM

There are so many other cars I would get for 70K. I have a 335i, and it's great, but not 70k great. I would be looking at Porsche in that price range.

ABerry · 05-25-2011, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Cabrio2007

There are so many other cars I would get for 70K. I have a 335i, and it's great, but not 70k great. I would be looking at Porsche in that price range.

+2

philthy84 · 05-25-2011, 06:07 PM

I know it is pricey guys but it's does have ALL the options I would like and I doubt I'd be able to price a M3/Porsche with options I'd like without going over $75,000 MSRP. If I can get this 335is anywhere from $60,000-64,000 I'd be more then happy. But thanks for the opinions I'm more then happy hear them.

05-22-2011, 01:48 PM	#1
philthy84 Second Lieutenant 50 Rep 283 Posts Drives: 2018 X2 Join Date: May 2011 Location: San Francisco, CA / Portland, OR iTrader: (2)	New member interested in a 335 w/ a couple ?'s I'm planning to trade in my 09 G37 this summer, I'm thinking around the 4th of July time frame. Been a good car to me no problems at all but I'm just tired of it haha. Anyways at the top of my list are the 335 not sure yet if a coupe or sedan and the Audi S4. Anyways right now I'm leaning more towards the 335 just looks like overall a better car from my own personal opinion. My questions lie in the whole ordering process. I've been configuring cars on the BMW website and most of the ones I've made were around the $62-65,000 range and the 335is coupe I made was a tad over $70,000. No experience at all in having a new car made specifically the way you want it, usually our family just gets whatever works out best on the dealership lot. Now since the car is being made to order does that leave you the buyer with little to no room to negotiate the price I'm being showed on the BMW website? If they do work with you on pricing around how much can I reasonably expect to get off the price being shown? Also when a deal is made and I give them the keys to my G37 and the write up to order to be produced am I just stuck without a car for that time frame or does dealers provide you with a loaner type vehicle? Thanks for the time and I'd really appreciate any help, I hope to be a fellow owner soon!
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05-22-2011, 03:07 PM	#2
silvercreek Private 5 Rep 64 Posts Drives: 535i Join Date: May 2011 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	Use truecar.com as your price basis
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CRG3 Private First Class 9 Rep 104 Posts Drives: 2011 E92 M-Sport Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: KY iTrader: (1)	Down here in the SF Bay area, I ordered mine and was able to get the Costco price of $500 over invoice. You can get the invoice prices at Edmunds.com __________________ 2011 E92 M-Sport 6 Spd Manual BSM/Black Dakota/Dark Burl Heated Seats / H&K / Sat / Ipod/USB / CA / AST 4100s / M3 Suspension Bits / 18" Forgestar F14 - Gunmetal with Michigan Super Sports / Quaife LSD, etc...etc...
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kyleJB328 coast2coast 9 Rep 201 Posts Drives: '11 E90 SG/OY-'08 E70 BS/B Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: 02108-Boston iTrader: (0)	Can 335is's go up to 70,000?! Don't quote me, but i'm pretty sure they don't. Also, if you have an AMEX card, check into their 'ZAG program' __________________ 2011 328i Space Grey/Oyster-X-Drive, ZSP, ZVP, ZPP, ZCP, CWP,Heated Steering Wheel, Nav, BMW Apps 2008 BMW X5 4.8i BSM/Black/Bamboo-ZSP, Premium Sound, ZCP
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05-23-2011, 01:45 AM	#5
Wild Squid Banned 21 Rep 626 Posts Drives: 2011 BMW 335i coupe Msport AW Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Nor Cal iTrader: (0)	Are you adding every option in the book? For 70K you might as well get the M3.
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05-23-2011, 12:21 PM	#6
michaelthepsycho Lieutenant Colonel 76 Rep 1,644 Posts Drives: 11 Montego Blue E90 335i Step Join Date: May 2009 Location: CA iTrader: (4)	$70k on a 3 is a waste. Get a Porsche. Even a base C2 is better than a 335is. ... And no, custom-ordering doesn't mean you can't negotiate. I got mine $250 over invoice. My dealer also let me drive the trade-in for all the time during paperwork processing (three weeks). It all depends on your dealership and who you're dealing with. If it's someone high up, they'll do whatever they want for you. __________________ Former car 2011 BMW 335i Step - Montego Blue / Chestnut Brown
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05-23-2011, 12:47 PM	#7
335i Pal Second Lieutenant 19 Rep 284 Posts Drives: 335i Sedan Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Ohio iTrader: (1)	Or for $70K you can get a barely used GT-R! __________________ 335i E90 \| BMS DCI \| Black Matte Grill \| JB4 \| Logic 7 \| Sport \| Premium \| Cold \|
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05-24-2011, 07:50 PM	#8
philthy84 Second Lieutenant 50 Rep 283 Posts Drives: 2018 X2 Join Date: May 2011 Location: San Francisco, CA / Portland, OR iTrader: (2)	Thank for the replies guy! The 335is I have configured at the moment is about $69,000 MSRP from the BMW website. It does have almost every option added. I know I could get the M3 but most likely not equipped with the little things I want and this is going to be my daily driver so it would help to have a somewhat better fuel efficient car. Here the link to the 335is I plan to order. What's the most reasonable deal I could get on it with everything I want? http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...tionId=1594414 Last edited by philthy84; 05-24-2011 at 07:59 PM..
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05-24-2011, 08:18 PM	#9
Eric335 Colonel 130 Rep 2,489 Posts Drives: 2007 E92 SG 335i 6MT Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: SW Florida iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 BMW 335i [7.66]	id get an M3 for that price, but i am not gana lie.... thats a nice 335 u put together
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slimysnails Leaving slime trails... 8 Rep 145 Posts Drives: a black brick Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: NY iTrader: (2)	$70k for a 335?? for that i would get a used m, no question.
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Motastic Major 85 Rep 1,356 Posts Drives: E92 335! Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Arlington, TX iTrader: (4)	wow
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05-25-2011, 11:13 AM	#16
Wingman335 Lieutenant 52 Rep 423 Posts Drives: 2011 335i E92 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: TX iTrader: (0)	In response to your original question- yes, you can negotiate prices on built-to-order cars, just as you would for a car on the lot. There is the same amount of room to negotiate, unless of course, it is a very new model in the market, or is in high demand (such as 1M). Dealers are not obligated to provide you with a loaner while your new car is in transit, but some really good dealers do provide loaners, if you are stuck without a car.
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05-25-2011, 11:28 AM	#17
Syndicategt Brigadier General 155 Rep 3,730 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Nor Cal iTrader: (11)	I love my 335i, which I got custom and fully loaded for $52k....not sure why the IS is running so much more these days. For that price range, there would be several other cars I would consider before buying that 335is. Find out the invoice, and offer the dealer $500 over. If they say no, walk out, and wait for their phone call in 15 min. __________________ 2008 BMW 335i e90 - Sold - Rob Beck Turbos / PROcede V5 / Aquamist HFS-4 / AR Downpipes / AE Exhaust / ER Comp FMIC / ER CP / TiAL BOV / Custom Intake / RPI Scoops / Quaife LSD / Swift-Koni Coilovers / DSS HS / Morr VS8.2 Sig Black / Michelin PSS / P3 Boost Guage / M3 body / M3 steering wheel / Adam's Rotors / Hawk HPS / SS lines /
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cotmfk Major General 2054 Rep 6,116 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Somewhere between DC and FL iTrader: (12)	Unbelievable! $70k is crazy. That just means the F30 is going to be getting closer and closer to that range. The 3 series is being priced out of the market! __________________ When you say impact instead of affect/effect, you are communicating that you don't understand the difference between the two words, and are too lazy to learn.
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Cabrio2007 WoundedVet 2 Rep 23 Posts Drives: E93 2007 Join Date: May 2011 Location: East Coast iTrader: (0)	There are so many other cars I would get for 70K. I have a 335i, and it's great, but not 70k great. I would be looking at Porsche in that price range.
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05-25-2011, 06:07 PM	#22
philthy84 Second Lieutenant 50 Rep 283 Posts Drives: 2018 X2 Join Date: May 2011 Location: San Francisco, CA / Portland, OR iTrader: (2)	I know it is pricey guys but it's does have ALL the options I would like and I doubt I'd be able to price a M3/Porsche with options I'd like without going over $75,000 MSRP. If I can get this 335is anywhere from $60,000-64,000 I'd be more then happy. But thanks for the opinions I'm more then happy hear them.
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