[michaelalex17]

i have a jb+ at 75% and it has more then enough power for me, but i was wondering how it affects the car compared to a jb3 at map 5. thanks

[onesuperboi]

There are thousands of JB tunes out there with a million billion problem free miles.

[franzzz]

The best longevitiy for N54 is with Stock Settings!

[e92bmw]

I actually think the jb3 is safer since it remaps fuel and other things too as opposed to simply raising boost...

[Brian135i]

A JB+ is not safe. It just raises the boost. Get a different tune or stay stock.

[CWINMA]

Originally Posted by Brian135i

A JB+ is not safe. It just raises the boost. Get a different tune or stay stock.

Not safe ? That's just "not true"

[e92bmw]

Originally Posted by CWINMA

Not safe ? That's just "not true"

Its actually very true! Even though a jb+ doesnt raise the boost by much, it relies on the cars stock ecu to add fuel, however the car isnt supposed to see more than a maximum of 8.5 psi stock so thats why a real tune us much better since it remaps all of the neccesary parameters.

[InCityPhoto]

Originally Posted by beemw

Its actually very true! Even though a jb+ doesnt raise the boost by much, it relies on the cars stock ecu to add fuel, however the car isnt supposed to see more than a maximum of 8.5 psi stock so thats why a real tune us much better since it remaps all of the neccesary parameters.

Then why in warm temperatures does the OEM ECU have the ability to raise boost to up to 10PSI?

[Clap135]

Originally Posted by InCityPhoto

Then why in warm temperatures does the OEM ECU have the ability to raise boost to up to 10PSI?

and that 10psi will turn in to 14 with a jb+

[InCityPhoto]

Originally Posted by Clap135

and that 10psi will turn in to 14 with a jb+

Point being?

My original post was the dis qualify the fact that he said, that the OEM sensor was ONLY able to work at 8.5PSI.

[Clap135]

point being the stock car is not meant to run 14psi with stock fuel/ignition. All the jb+does is adds ontop of whatever boost you are running. So if a stock car, like the guy in the desert, runs 10-11 psi in shit conditions as the ecu attempts to stock like power, the jb woul dsimply add on top of that 10-11 psi, which in those conditions is absurd.

[InCityPhoto]

Originally Posted by Clap135

point being the stock car is not meant to run 14psi with stock fuel/ignition. All the jb+does is adds ontop of whatever boost you are running. So if a stock car, like the guy in the desert, runs 10-11 psi in shit conditions as the ecu attempts to stock like power, the jb woul dsimply add on top of that 10-11 psi, which in those conditions is absurd.

we can continue this in the thread you made.. Again spamming other's thread's about how you think it should work, compared to how it does work.

[e92bmw]

Originally Posted by InCityPhoto

we can continue this in the thread you made.. Again spamming other's thread's about how you think it should work, compared to how it does work.

Trust me, you should listen to what he says. You might learn something if you stop being so ignorant.

[michaelalex17]

Originally Posted by beemw

I actually think the jb3 is safer since it remaps fuel and other things too as opposed to simply raising boost...

this is why i was asking the question. i thought the jb3 would be a safer tune. but i emailed Terry from burgermotorsport and asked him if i should get a jb3 for longevity reasons and he said no the jb+ is ok. he would have made more money on another sale if he told me to get the jb3 but he said my jb+ was fine for longevity, im not saying it will last as long as a stock car, but it will make the car last as long as the jb3 will, is what it seems like.

[marv85]

Originally Posted by InCityPhoto

we can continue this in the thread you made.. Again spamming other's thread's about how you think it should work, compared to how it does work.

CLAP135 has a point. I understand that the JB+ is a good bargain price wise relative to the extra power you get. However it is not the best way to go especially not at 75%.
Having cars with mileage on the JB+ and no failures is necessary but not sufficient to prove this is a safe tune... whenever you want to raise boost, you want your tune to remap other parameters to account for this additional boost (and not rely on your stock ECU)...
just my opinion

[InCityPhoto]

Originally Posted by marv85

CLAP135 has a point. I understand that the JB+ is a good bargain price wise relative to the extra power you get. However it is not the best way to go especially not at 75%.
Having cars with mileage on the JB+ and no failures is necessary but not sufficient to prove this is a safe tune... whenever you want to raise boost, you want your tune to remap other parameters to account for this additional boost (and not rely on your stock ECU)...
just my opinion

Your opinion is as always welcome, but please make sure not to make it seem as if it is FACT and the only way to raise boost.

[marv85]

Originally Posted by InCityPhoto

Your opinion is as always welcome, but please make sure not to make it seem as if it is FACT and the only way to raise boost.

Thanks

Its definitely not the only way to raise boost, but it makes sense to say that it is a safer way. As in a JB4 running at the same boost as the JB+, is a safer tuning solution. Would you agree?

[InCityPhoto]

Originally Posted by marv85

Thanks

Its definitely not the only way to raise boost, but it makes sense to say that it is a safer way. As in a JB4 running at the same boost as the JB+, is a safer tuning solution. Would you agree?

I agree that there are many ways to raise boost in the N54 engine, and you should contact to appropriate people to discuss safety.

[Clap135]

Originally Posted by InCityPhoto

I agree that there are many ways to raise boost in the N54 engine, and you should contact to appropriate people to discuss safety.

You didnt answer the question though? The man asked you a very simply question.

[InCityPhoto]

Originally Posted by Clap135

You didnt answer the question though? The man asked you a very simply question.

And I gave him a very simple answer.

[Clap135]

Originally Posted by InCityPhoto

And I gave him a very simple answer.

No you didn't. He ask if a jb4 or a jb+ is safer at the same psi. A very simple answer would either be "jb4" or "jb+" When you give him one of the two, please provide proof to back your claim.

[InCityPhoto]

Originally Posted by Clap135

No you didn't. He ask if a jb4 or a jb+ is safer at the same psi. A very simple answer would either be "jb4" or "jb+" When you give him one of the two, please provide proof to back your claim.

And I told him to talk to someone more knowledgable them myself? I don't see a problem with that.