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      02-10-2011, 01:31 AM   #1
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Potential Group Buy for Powerchip (Toronto)

I have recently spoke to Mike@Powerchip regarding a tune for my car.
http://www.e90post.com/forums/member.php?u=37951
If we have a few cars interested we can possibly have a discounted group buy.

All 1 and 3-series have tunes available for them.
If you have any questions regarding the gains feel free to PM Mike.

The more people we have the lower the price, and the quicker he can send his flash kit over here.

We can organize a date where we meet up with the flash kit and have our cars read and sent back to Mike.

So whoever is interested, put your name on this list and we can go from there.

If you don't know your engine type and ecu type, then just feel free to put your car model and year.

1.) DimSum 2007 (N52B25 E90 MSV80)
2.) jredor 2007 (E92 328i)
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and so on...


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      02-10-2011, 04:48 AM   #2
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      02-10-2011, 07:05 AM   #3
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jredor 07 E92 328i
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This also includes M3 members too!
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Is this a software tune or piggyback? What gains?
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      02-10-2011, 05:45 PM   #5
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Is this a software tune or piggyback? What gains?
Software tune, your looking around 15-20hp gain as usual with all tunes for our N52 motors. But paired with some other mods, you will be looking at higher figures, maps can be optimized for specific 93/94 octane from what I read on powerchip. I think Mike will chime in on this thread in a bit.
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      02-21-2011, 11:56 AM   #6
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Thanks for the reply Mike! Anyone else jumping on the group buy add your name!
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      02-23-2011, 06:04 PM   #7
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hi guys,

other than the fact that this is purely a software upgrade, can anyone explain why one would get this as opposed to say, a JB3?

i'm not that well versed when it comes to performance mods.

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So how do we get support in case we need help? The seller is in Cali?
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      02-24-2011, 12:01 AM   #9
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So how do we get support in case we need help? The seller is in Cali?
Good question. I wonder why Dimsum didn't think of organising a group buy with a someone local. If the BMW dealers have been sending me e9x cars to tune, I must be doing something right.
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Good question. I wonder why Dimsum didn't think of organising a group buy with a someone local. If the BMW dealers have been sending me e9x cars to tune, I must be doing something right.
probably cuz he's getting himself hooked up for free.

so let's do a competing group buy. can you post up some information with the type of service you offer and details around the tune?
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Good question. I wonder why Dimsum didn't think of organising a group buy with a someone local. If the BMW dealers have been sending me e9x cars to tune, I must be doing something right.
It's all about exposure Mark. Not many local members have heard about you or your business on e90post.

I work off of reviews, information and results. Post some information if you can and what you can do.

Thanks

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Good question. I wonder why Dimsum didn't think of organising a group buy with a someone local. If the BMW dealers have been sending me e9x cars to tune, I must be doing something right.
I'd be interested know more about this, granted some dealers are mod friendly..but for them to send cars out for tuning - must be a great dealer. Are the cars they send out still under warranty? Will they back you if anything f's up?
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It's all about exposure Mark. Not many local members have heard about you or your business on e90post.

I work off reviews, information and results. Post some information if you can and what you can do.

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I'd be interested know more about this, granted some dealers are mod friendly..but for them to send cars out for tuning - must be a great dealer. Are the cars they send out still under warranty? Will they back you if anything f's up?
+1 but I really don't believe dealers would send a BMW under warranty, maybe after the warranty is done, for the main reason, if my dealer send me to a guy like this and he messed up my car I would go back to that dealer and demand them to fix my car! Dealer would have law suits on there hands if they did this.
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It's all about exposure Mark. Not many local members have heard about you or your business on e90post.

I work off reviews, information and results. Post some information if you can and what you can do.

Thanks
Oops! Missed this post... but absolutely agree. Exposure is so important, if no one knows what you do, or how good you are ..you can't expect us to come find you.

I'm now on my second tune because I did not like my AA 1.5 at all, I'm now running an ESS tune because of the reviews and results people have posted. If you could provide such information, I'm sure you'll get interested parties.
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probably cuz he's getting himself hooked up for free.

so let's do a competing group buy. can you post up some information with the type of service you offer and details around the tune?
Actually, that sounds pretty sweet! But that's not the case. It's Powerchip selling the tune, not Mike himself. So I still gotta pay the same price everyone pays. I could have gone with AA @ bimmersport, but a friend of mine already has and I would like to go a different route and compare .
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so what does this tune do to the N52?
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hi guys,

other than the fact that this is purely a software upgrade, can anyone explain why one would get this as opposed to say, a JB3?

i'm not that well versed when it comes to performance mods.

thanks,
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Wel are you looking for a tune for the n54 or n52? The jb3 is only for 335i/535i/135i/x6/x5/z4....etc only cars that have turbos. When a car has a turbo you can easily get more horsepower with software(piggyback/tune) by making the turbo run more psi. THe more psi a turbo is running, the more power you make. On a non turbod car, theres not much you can do which is why I personally beleive these tunes for the n52 are completely useless for extra power. The only good thing about them is that they give you a little bit better throttle response, but youre not really going to see a performance gain(I remember one guys dynod before and after and only got 3whp...
If youre looking at thisone for a 335i(anything with the n54) I wouldnt recommend it, because a flash tune will always be more detectable than a piggyback, since the piggyback trick the ecu, compared to this that actually reprograms the whole ecu and bmw is able to see when the latest software was loaded.
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so what does this tune do to the N52?
Well not much in terms of performance, but it should help you with that laggy feel off the line. I personally wouldnt recomend it, you wont gain much probably like 5 peak whp...
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Well not much in terms of performance, but it should help you with that laggy feel off the line. I personally wouldnt recomend it, you wont gain much probably like 5 peak whp...
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Wel are you looking for a tune for the n54 or n52? The jb3 is only for 335i/535i/135i/x6/x5/z4....etc only cars that have turbos. When a car has a turbo you can easily get more horsepower with software(piggyback/tune) by making the turbo run more psi. THe more psi a turbo is running, the more power you make. On a non turbod car, theres not much you can do which is why I personally beleive these tunes for the n52 are completely useless for extra power. The only good thing about them is that they give you a little bit better throttle response, but youre not really going to see a performance gain(I remember one guys dynod before and after and only got 3whp...
If youre looking at thisone for a 335i(anything with the n54) I wouldnt recommend it, because a flash tune will always be more detectable than a piggyback, since the piggyback trick the ecu, compared to this that actually reprograms the whole ecu and bmw is able to see when the latest software was loaded.
I don't think its only 5whp. There's a guy who shaved off a whole second on his 0-60 after an AA tune on his 328i with AFE intake and BMW Performance intake. I'm sure we are looking about a good 10-15whp, and the tunes make the car better optimized for higher octanes.

Ultimately a tune is much better than a piggy, but of course piggybacks are made for convenience and ease of use sake. I know someone who went from JB3 to COBB Tuning and noticed a huge difference in power delivery and the car was much smoother off the line.

Anyways, this thread was not made to compare piggybacks to tunes.
It's a group buy. If you want to discuss the differences between a tune and piggybacks, leave the conversations for this section: http://www.e90post.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=58
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I don't think its only 5whp. There's a guy who shaved off a whole second on his 0-60 after an AA tune on his 328i with AFE intake and BMW Performance intake. I'm sure we are looking about a good 10-15whp, and the tunes make the car better optimized for higher octanes.

Ultimately a tune is much better than a piggy, but of course piggybacks are made for convenience and ease of use sake. I know someone who went from JB3 to COBB Tuning and noticed a huge difference in power delivery and the car was much smoother off the line.

Anyways, this thread was not made to compare piggybacks to tunes.
It's a group buy. If you want to discuss the differences between a tune and piggybacks, leave the conversations for this section: http://www.e90post.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=58
Well good luck getting 15whp from tuning a 328i... And the jb3 sucks for smootheness, thats why Im getting a procede v5 (which beleive it or not has more control over the ecu then cobb and its a piggy)
Good luck with the modding
Ps: Just go with a bms powerbox, intake and exhaust. Youll save a lot and gain as much power.
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Well good luck getting 15whp from tuning a 328i... And the jb3 sucks for smootheness, thats why Im getting a procede v5 (which beleive it or not has more control over the ecu then cobb and its a piggy)
Good luck with the modding
Ps: Just go with a bms powerbox, intake and exhaust. Youll save a lot and gain as much power.
I have BMS Powerbox...
The BMS Powerbox dyno's in at 10whp already. I'm not sure why I won't get 15whp from a tune.
If you ask anyone who knows something about ECUs will tell you ultimately that a tune is far more superior than a piggyback that simply alters signals.
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Whats involved in this tune? You send your ECU to Cali?
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